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343: Halo 4 is best/fastest selling game in series, will do better on quality 4 Halo5
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The press misquote circle is rather unfortunate I feel, since this will likely be the story that hits half the blogs.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Razgriz-Specter
Member
lol I thought all of the squad were cool and interesting (Buck specifically is my favorite Halo character) that the rookie ends up seeming like the odd guy out.
though its fine for his sections of the game and matches the atmosphere.
HigherLevel
Member
Least favorite Halo for me for a lot of reasons.
If I were to rank them in order of my personal favorites it would go like this,
Halo 3 > Halo 2 >Halo CE > Halo 3: ODST > Halo: Reach > Halo 4
If I were to rank them in order of my personal favorites it would go like this,
Halo 3 > Halo 2 >Halo CE > Halo 3: ODST > Halo: Reach > Halo 4
flyinpiranha
Member
I still have a bit of 4 to finish but I tend to agree with this so far. Halo 3 just seemed more 'open'. I can clearly see the path they want me take with Halo 4. It is gorgeous so I can understand them losing some 'open' for visual fidelity but I wish they hadn't. I'd always rather have something with more choices and variety and a visual hit then something that looks pretty but limits my options.
I really like the personal touch in 4 though, the cutscenes, the dialogue, it's great, much better than the past. I wasn't sure how I was going to feel but they did an excellent job.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Selling well then, congrats to you and the team.
FairXchange
Member
Halo 4 plays great, and it looks great. The gameplay itself though perhaps needs to evolve, more environmental interaction, more dynamic gameplay beyond the nice AI that the enemies have.
GillianSeed79
Member
I'm weird in that my two favorite Halo games are Reach and 4. Granted, I only started playing Halo around Halo 3 though. I can see people's complaints regarding enemy encounters in 4's campaign (Spartan Ops makes up for it) and the ordinance drop/perk stuff in mp, but I think the good stuff outweighs the bad.
Honestly, I don't see why they can't introduce like a barbones playlist to appease the Halo 2/3 fans who don't want anything to do with perks and want the old weapon drop system. I personally like Reach and Halo 4 because they actually changed up the old Halo formula and allowed those new to the series to get into the MP without being outright slaughtered by the pros. The good halo players are still going to be good regardless if there's perks or armor abilities or whatever. I know I'm in the minority.
Honestly, I don't see why they can't introduce like a barbones playlist to appease the Halo 2/3 fans who don't want anything to do with perks and want the old weapon drop system. I personally like Reach and Halo 4 because they actually changed up the old Halo formula and allowed those new to the series to get into the MP without being outright slaughtered by the pros. The good halo players are still going to be good regardless if there's perks or armor abilities or whatever. I know I'm in the minority.
flyinpiranha
Member
You do? I haven't seen that.
Brerlappin
Member
Personally i think its the worst campaign so far too. Story is incomprehensible, prometheans are terrible, it ends with a QTE, its a bad Halo game.
Id rank the campaigns as 3>Reach>ODST>CE>2>4
I only rate CE so far down as its level design has aged appalingly with all the cut n paste areas. Its still a fantastic game tho.
Id rank the campaigns as 3>Reach>ODST>CE>2>4
I only rate CE so far down as its level design has aged appalingly with all the cut n paste areas. Its still a fantastic game tho.
was? people still play it
go into halogaf lol
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Definitely,
HaloGAF hates every Halo since H2. So, the hate for Halo 4 is expected.
But there are quite a few of us who enjoy Halo 4, and play on XBL regularly.
DarkLegion
Member
Besides the bugs you encounter now and then I thought Halo 4 was pretty great at first but now I feel like the maps got old way too fast and made multiplayer boring. I was always able to play reach for years without getting tired of the maps. Maybe its the lack of including forge maps.
GillianSeed79
Member
You've just described the story in the campaigns for me in Halo 1 through Halo 3. I couldn't grasp hardly any of the Halo fiction until I watched Halo Legends. Four is pretty straight forward for a Halo game and is in IMO the best story in a Halo game. Their biggest mistake was hiding those story terminals, but even if you don't watch them it's not a hard story to understand.
Forge maps will have their own playlist shortly (so as not to "taint" other lists). And there's a new map pack coming soon (with some smaller maps).
Can Crusher
Banned
Well that clears the air for me.
Small maps and double team?
yankeehater
Member
This is great news. I hate the DLC maps so much because they are also so big. More small maps is fantastic. Is KoH ever going to come back as its own playlist, and will extraction ever get its own playlist? I really miss KoH and it almost never gets picked since it seems people mostly pick slayer when it comes up in the DLC playlist.
Al-ibn Kermit
Junior Member
It's subjective to say whether a certain game is the best in it's series, unless it suffers from a bunch of technical issues. I would hope that 343 wouldn't release it if they didn't think it would be the best game so far.
It's stupid that people care so much what 343 says.
It's stupid that people care so much what 343 says.
especially since we didn't say that.
the leap from 3 to reach was larger than the one from reach to 4.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
I also thought ODST had the worst campaign (still very good, mind you, just bettered by other games in the series). I loved the atmosphere in those parts, but the hub world was a huge wasted opportunity. A few blocks for you to explore, but practically nothing of interest to find - phone booths, a few weapon caches, some winks to the fans and that's it. 99% of the doors were locked, and those that weren't usually didn't lead into anything particularly interesting. Most streets and squares looked very similar, and most importantly, the city didn't look like a real place that people lived in, inside and out. Half-Life 2 nailed that, but most other FPS games set in urban parts fail to provide the same believability. ODST failed hard, the whole area was oh-so-obviously artificially constructed for gameplay purposes and little else.
The flashbacks were typical Halo - and I mean that in the best sense possible - but some of them felt uninspired, and the whole experience was very disjointed, while at the same time failing to be varied enough (you were supposed to be playing as a set of different characters, yet all of them basically felt the same). I also thought the characters were underutilized on the narrative side, especially the AI who was featured prominently in the marketing campaign. Maybe it was purposefully subdued because they didn't want to come off as ripping off Portal, but it still should've been utilized better.
So while I respect the intention, the execution was not that great. The whole subgenre doesn't play to Bungie's strengths, and it showed.
Chittagong
Gold Member
I agree. 2 is a close second, even campaign is amazing, screw the haters
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I wonder what 343's creation would have looked like without Microsoft standing over their shoulder the whole time. Then again, Microsoft created 343. I guess I'll never know...Frankie, get fired so you can tell us about the development process and how you guys really wanted to create a proper Halo multiplayer. And you can pull a George Castanza if you're not sure how to get fired.
Can Crusher
Banned
Why are you implying that somehow Microsoft put the chains on 343 right away?
This is GAF of late. Is all about articles which are incorrect, and a bunch of people posting about the title, and ignoring the contents of the thread.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
It's Microsoft, duh. Don't they scare little children with Microsoft where you live?
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Because I have to make sense of their decisions somehow. 343 is made up of a lot of really good developers.
goldenpp72
Member
I'm having a good time with the game, even the online which 3 and reach kind of lost me in. Game has problems but I hope through patches they can fix a lot of it.
flyinpiranha
Member
Ah, I don't go into that Community thread. I just remember the OT and a lot of people seemed to be enjoying it.
I play Halo solely for multiplayer and having fun so it's a solid game for me. I just wish they were quicker with balancing and updating their playlist. Where's meh griffball? Snipez? Maybe even action sack w/ Binary Rifle + Thrusters?
A few other things:
-I think the game needs a few more "staple" maps comparable to Haven
-the ranking/leveling system is too finite and i can see people maybe getting bored when they reach it
-fix the problem where teams are split unevenly
A few other things:
-I think the game needs a few more "staple" maps comparable to Haven
-the ranking/leveling system is too finite and i can see people maybe getting bored when they reach it
-fix the problem where teams are split unevenly
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I can't
What did we gain
Spartan Ops
Loadouts
A tad more customisation (skins don't count it's a lame way to extend the armory)
Commendation expansion
Regicide
Extraction
Dominion
Ugly new armour
What did we lose
Frame rate
Firefight
Many of the legacy armor set that had became fan favourites
Campaign /firefight
Pro-pipe
Campaign scoring
Long progression system
Multiple custom options and game types
Invasion
Elite player models
In terms of complete package what about Halo 4 feels complete? The erratic frame rate? The broken file sharing options? The chopped on
Half recording features? The textures not loading when you scope across maps?
higherARC05
Banned
Framerate?
What game did you play because HALO 4 has some of the best fps in a HALO game. You could be confusing for lag in multiplayer cause in singleplayer and multiplayer there is literally no dip in the fps just check eurogamer analysis of the fps. It's 30fps 99% with no tear because of vsync.
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