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[madmackem]

Who cares when the event was? At this point in time we have no clear answers from either company.

Sony didnt just have a conference though, if they had and fucked it up like this they would be getting the same shit. Ms have fumbled the ball on this.

 

[Dude Abides]

Vague shit like this just fuels more speculation. MS has been unbelievably ham-fisted about this.

 

[Quentyn]

Oh god!! That game on your avatar pic, I used to play it till death... it still bothers me thou that I could never, ever pait a whole room with my tracks without being eaten by the dog or beaten by the flyng broomsticks.

lol, yea the stupid broomsticks used to kill me all the time.

 

[Willy Wanka]

They should either have sorted all this shit out before the reveal (because god knows they have had plenty of time) or they should have just said 'we haven't finalised our plans yet' until they had it all worked out. This statement helps nothing.

 

[Maninthemirror]

The only good policy about used games is to have no policy

 

[RoadHazard]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishers-to-receive-cut-of-xbox-one-pre-owned-sales-at-retail/0116137

"Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale."

That's just so damn fucked up. In what other business do the original creators, who have already been paid once, get a cut when you resell the product? If I buy a TV from Sony and then sell it to someone, do Sony get a percentage of what I sold it for? Hell no. So fucked up.

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Sony didnt just have a conference though, if they had and fucked it up like this they would be getting the same shit. Ms have fumbled the ball on this.

Sony totally got shit for having a pretty lame, somewhat content-less, really boring reveal.

 

[Soi-Fong]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishers-to-receive-cut-of-xbox-one-pre-owned-sales-at-retail/0116137

"Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale."

Complete BULLSHIT. Once a game is bought, that item should belong to the buyer. Fuck this!!! It's pure GREED plain and simple. FUCK XBOX ONE. PERIOD.

 

[madmackem]

Sony totally got shit for having a pretty lame, somewhat content-less, really boring reveal.

We arnt talking about the reveal.

 

[artist]

i thought its only on gaf....

Yeah, I was told GAF is the . 01%, was also provided with strawman like GAF loves Vita.

 

[Jonboy]

Gamestop retweeted his statement. They're definitely in on it.

 

[Salaadin]

So Phil Harrison and Moody were incorrect, as are the recent reports from retailers on how all this is going to work?

I want to give MS the benefit of a doubt here but this feels like damage control...a way to get us to shut up while they hope it all blows over in the E3 rush in a few weeks.

 

[ThisWreckage]

That statement clarified or stated absolutely nothing.

 

[metalslimer]

Still no borrowing games from friends. Still don't give a fuck Microsoft.

 

[Paganmoon]

Why can't people just wait and hear what they have to say at E3. This angry mob mentality is growing old fast in here. Obviously they'll have answers during E3

Yeah, shesh, consumers wanting straight answers from a company they would like to buy a product from, the nerve...

Please, won't someone think of the poor companies?!

 

[UberTag]

I'm starting to wonder if we'll get any answers even at E3.

Outlook is not good.
But we will get answers on all of the new third-party exclusive content Microsoft has moneyhatted for us.
Please be excited!

 

[Htown]

That statement literally said nothing.

yep

again, the fact that we have already had confirmation and the fact that they will announce details later means you will have to go through MS.

 

[link1201]

I haven't been keeping up with all of this madness, but all of this 'used games/activation fee/etc.' stuff could really muck up REDBOX and/or Gamefly rentals, no?


REDBOX saved my ass when it came to Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Even there I felt bad having to pay the single day rental fee.

Exactly...Redbox allows me to demo games, this will change that apparently...I really wish they would have left this aspect alone...I just want to be excited about the next gen but can't be because of this.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Standard videogame PR method - just wait it out.

So transparent.

 

[Hellsing321]

That's just so damn fucked up. In what other business do the original creators, who have already been paid once, get a cut when you resell the product? If I buy a TV from Sony and then sell it to someone, do Sony get a percentage of what I sold it for? Hell no. So fucked up.

But games are completely different because of reasons!

 

[PsychoSoldier]

At Microsoft all our employees are dedicated to giving the public non-committal, vague and incomplete information.

This statement is just another proof of our commitment to that core mission.

 

[Y2Kev]

I have a statement to make on behalf of Microsoft regarding Xbox One:

Xbox One is a game console. Please look forward to it.

 

[Sola Scriptura]

Computing answers via the infinite power of the cloud takes time, guys. Relax.

 

[Jinko]

The fact that they had to issue a statement means they know the general vibe out here so lets hope that will change what they planned on doing originally.

We can at least hope.

Hmm doesn't change the fact that they were thinking about it and almost ready to implement it though.

 

[mckmas8808]

And here it is:

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-and-used-games-2/



Well glad that's all cleared up then.

But the statement DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING! ARGH!

 

[commedieu]

Complete BULLSHIT. Once a game is bought, that item should belong to the buyer. Fuck this!!! It's pure GREED plain and simple. FUCK XBOX ONE. PERIOD.

 

[Streaks]

Fanboy glasses? This is like my second post in 10 years on the gaming side of this forum lol. You don't know what I have or plan on getting. All I'm saying is that I get throwing a tantrum maybe the first 48 hours but they've said over and over that they'll explain more at E3. It's like two weeks away. I think they fully get everyone's opinions on the whole matter by now. If their policy sucks and you don't like it then you go ahead and throw a hissy fit and throw your money at a PS4 preorder. Just give them a chance to state the facts in two weeks.

 

[Htown]

Gamestop retweeted his statement. They're definitely in on it.

gamestop doesn't know shit. they are probably negotiating to get a cut of authorization codes or something, but since they came out and said "what the hell", they are definitely on the outside looking in

 

[SlowRevolution]

It's hilarious that it took them this long to even say that much.

 

[MYeager]

Why can't people just wait and hear what they have to say at E3. This angry mob mentality is growing old fast in here. Obviously they'll have answers during E3

NeoGAF promotes discussion about video game topics, the Xbox One and the potential impact on future video games is a popular topic. With no further information, the discussion is limited to the small amount of information known as well as rumors and speculation. While there are people who are angry and there are those who will jump to both conclusions and assumptions that are negative (which given some of the history anti-consumer measures in gaming isn't hard to make that leap), there are also interesting discussions to be had about the next gen systems.

 

[NullPointer]

Microsoft, you have 24 hours or we're out. Sorry, but its just business - we have to assume the worst about you until proven otherwise.

Daily.

 

[alr1ght]

Oh man, that "paste" typo is just great.

 

[Lunchbox]

2 paragraphs with words that dont say anything

 

[RoadHazard]

But games are completely different because of reasons!

It's funny how there's none of this BS when I buy a CD or a DVD/BD movie. I can resell that to whomever the fuck I want, and the creators don't get shit. Because they've already gotten their shit once.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Over the paste few days, we have been reading comments and message boards following the Xbox One announcement. There are a few questions regarding used games. I wanted to clarify and provide this official statement:

The ability to trade in and resell games is important to gamers and to Xbox. Xbox One is designed to support the trade in and resale of games. Reports about our policies for trade in and resale are inaccurate and incomplete. We will disclose more information in the near future.

This says nothing. What about fees? Reselling or trading physical or digital copies? Etc.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

That statement literally said nothing.

But it did say something, pretty significant too...

Reports about our policies for trade in and resale are inaccurate and incomplete. We will disclose more information in the near future.

Now is this true given what's happened with MS and their messaging the past 72hrs? Time will tell...

 

[tino]

I just looked at the thread title and the size of the thread (5 pages) and I knew there was no information of importance.

 

[tuffy]

Microsoft should've figured out how to sell their DRM as a feature before letting it slip to the press. It's a little late to start massaging the message now with official statements.

 

[Kibbles]

This, they didn't clarify shit.

 

[androvsky]

I have a statement to make on behalf of Microsoft regarding Xbox One:

Xbox One is a game console. Please look forward to it.

I wonder if someone from MS could get away with going that far off message.

 

[apesh1t]

They should either have sorted all this shit out before the reveal (because god knows they have had plenty of time) or they should have just said 'we haven't finalised our plans yet' until they had it all worked out. This statement helps nothing.

They did, and then the backlash happened. Garanteed there was no plans on allowing used games before people made a huge deal about. Ms is running scared, they've already lost some much, might as well not even bother with the console.

 

[BruiserBear]

Vague shit like this just fuels more speculation. MS has been unbelievably ham-fisted about this.

Can you blame them? Everyone made them rush to announce their system early.

 

[Tobor]

Fanboy glasses? This is like my second post in 10 years on the gaming side of this forum lol. You don't know what I have or plan on getting. All I'm saying is that I get throwing a tantrum maybe the first 48 hours but they've said over and over that they'll explain more at E3. It's like two weeks away. I think they fully get everyone's opinions on the whole matter by now. If their policy sucks and you don't like it then you go ahead and throw a hissy fit and throw your money at a PS4 preorder. Just give them a chance to state the facts in two weeks.

Maybe they should shut the fuck up for two weeks then? You realize we're responding to a statement they made today, right?

 

[QaaQer]

They said they will announce more later, so why not wait until they actually announce something?

Or we can just keep posting the same complaints over and over in a new thread.

because without the hate, MS has no reason to change policy. see what happened with office 13: if people just shut up, they would have keep the shit tos.

 

[Jonboy]

gamestop doesn't know shit. they are probably negotiating to get a cut of authorization codes or something, but since they came out and said "what the hell", they are definitely on the outside looking in

Also a possibility.

Whatever the case, they have to be in total free fall right now because of everyone saying to sell their stock.

Companies are legitimately starting to lose money because of the confusion. I think we'll get an answer sooner rather than later, especially if the vehement negativity persists.

 

[criesofthepast]

Thanks for nothing, Major. Go back to sleep.

 

[Nocturno999]

They are not changing anything. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep focusing on T.V. at E3's presentation.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

That statement literally said nothing.

Right here. So many words to say so little.

The very definition of "damage control".

 

[The Librarian]

Complete BULLSHIT. Once a game is bought, that item should belong to the buyer. Fuck this!!! It's pure GREED plain and simple. FUCK XBOX ONE. PERIOD.

Calm down. It's just a game console.

 

[DragonSworne]

E3 for Microsoft will be all about used games, used games, used games.