Gemüsepizza
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Known Microsoft PR guy who lies to the public:
http://majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xbox-360-vs-ps3-part-1-of-4/
Major Nelson said:
Riiiight...
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Major Nelson denies eSRAM Issues with Xbone, CBOAT: "nope"
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Known Microsoft PR guy who lies to the public:
http://majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xbox-360-vs-ps3-part-1-of-4/
Riiiight...
Lead to the shuttering of Xbox... lol.
CBOAT said this was due to incompetent managers. I imagine his motivation is that he wants the Xbox division to be successful, but believes this can only happen if the truth comes out about this situation sooner rather than later and therefore start fixing it sooner (and getting better leaders).
People are frothing Sony fans, obviously.
SonicX_Zero
Member
Has a PR guy ever bitten the hand that feeds him?
dragonbane
Member
Here is Major Nelson for you:
"Our world class technology team looked at the numbers and claims and decided to do what everyone else does: compare them to the PS3. The difference it that these guys are uniquely qualified to do so, and can cut through the smoke and mirrors to see what the real deal is.
There are three critical performance aspects of a console:
Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
Memory System Bandwidth
The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3′s by five times.
Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360′s (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth.
CONCLUSION
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.
However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games ”by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services” will outperform the PlayStation 3."
http://majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xbox-360-vs-ps3-part-1-of-4/
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He certainly knows how to bend the truth. CBOAT all the way for me.
"Our world class technology team looked at the numbers and claims and decided to do what everyone else does: compare them to the PS3. The difference it that these guys are uniquely qualified to do so, and can cut through the smoke and mirrors to see what the real deal is.
There are three critical performance aspects of a console:
Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
Memory System Bandwidth
The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3′s by five times.
Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360′s (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth.
CONCLUSION
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.
However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games ”by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services” will outperform the PlayStation 3."
http://majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xbox-360-vs-ps3-part-1-of-4/
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He certainly knows how to bend the truth. CBOAT all the way for me.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Somebody should ask Major Nelson why does Xbone have less bandwith than Xbox 360.
ask him the specs of xbox1 gpu....
hgarrett54
Banned
thesuperfunk
Member
#TeamCBOAT
I have to ask, if you leave this specific example aside, do you in general accept PR statements as likely to be true?
I'm not saying he is lying, I'm saying he is PR. I work for a very large global company - think not much smaller than MS - and I look at what our PR says publicly then I look at what I know inside the company. You might not want to be quite so trusting. Just saying.
Templar_Dante
Banned
LOL! WTF.
Ive believed CBoat since the minute he revealed the yield issues.
#TeamCBOAT
I dont trust suits or the lackeys they pay to wax lies over to consumers!
AranhaHunter
Banned
I'm #TeamCBOAT
FunnyBunny
Member
What do we make of Aaron Greenberg refuting the same rumor?
Same here, I worked at a Global corporation, one of the largest in the planet, and a lot of PR stuff that were used to put out fires, were not a direct reflection on what was going on behind door.
Heck PR department knew jack about the services my former unit works with and they always had the most Beautiful communications prepared for the costumers.
As a low level official in that company, I Wasn't allowed to discuss such topic with customers, that was up to the unit head and PR department.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
CBOAT is the omniscient narrator in the grand story of life. Who is Greenberg in comparison?
1. Microsoft will never publicly admit to yield issues just like another corp (Sony, AMD, Nvidia ..)
2. Greenberg didnt refute this, some one linked Ami's post and he's saying not true. To what exactly?
Templar_Dante
Banned
I dont doubt MS Moneyhats. They will buy PR from EA/Ubi/Activision to support them, so much so at this rate, even if they had the Pope come up to do damage control, I wont trust them.
I have major trust issues with MS and their mouthpieces.
tfur
Member
He is probably the one who told Nelson what to say in regards to the esram leak.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
I've always been #TeamCBOAT.
The name alone was enough to sell me.
The name alone was enough to sell me.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Yeah, #TeamCBOAT all the way. He's totally dreamy and gorgeous and shit.
Neuromancer
Member
I wish there were a poll attached to this thread.
Well, Larry here wouldn't want the negative publicity going into their billion dollar investment for the next several years, so if course he'd lie. If consumers think that it's difficult to make, then they'll think it'll break easily too. So even if it is true which it must likely is with their stupid convoluted design, they'd lie.
me too.
Yes that is exactly what is going on.
We should always trust the PR man. We should be happy to give up our consumer rights. We should worship a company for even giving us games to play.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Sorry, but I'm not going to trust a PR guy over an insider who has been spot on so far. Major Nelson has flat out lied before. Of course he isn't going to confirm this.
It's probably one of the harder places for shills to infiltrate, that's for sure.
You wait until after E3 and see if Sony is doing similar things because I bet they will. I believe this all stems from the big publishers like Activision and EA UBI.
As for the ESRAM issue Larry wouldn't say a damn thing if it were true but most people on this board just want MS to fail so badly.
I am not a fan of any DRM for either console as it will limits my ability for used games sale and purchases but it like any normal consumer I will just vote with my wallet.
Like most normal consumers I am going to wait until I have all the details from both Sony and MS to decide if I get one or both or neither. But people in this thread and others have just gone out of their way to bash MS all based on rumors and taking them as facts. And then try to spin it in Sony's favor when XBOX PR man says otherwise to a rumor.
Really is a joke around here.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Let's say you're right, and that all GAFfers want MS to fail.
Why do you think that is? Did GAF--collectively--just arbitrarily decide to hate MS for no concrete reason?
We want a company to fail at monetizing every move we make in our living room.
If they want to go pure digital and have all the DRM fine. If they want to maintain their relationships with retailers by selling physical products plus wanting to treat every consumer like a criminal, it isn't OK.
Seems that way. Sony fans are the majority on this board that is certain.
Dzidza1978
Member
I am sorry but your post is a joke, 99% people here doesn't want xbone to fail, because monopoly in console market, or any market doesn't innovate things or pushes forward. As an x360 owner, if MS continues with their agenda, I will not support them in this anti-consumer shitt. If PS4 is to be anti-consumer as xbone is, then they also wont get my support. But until we hear otherwise from Sony, xbone is getting all the negativity.
Or maybe people just prefer the stance Sony seems to be taking. if they do go down the same route as MS, there will be a shitstorm.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Seems that way? Don't you see all the anti consumer moves by MS with Xbone?
And Sony fans are the majority on this board? I wouldn't make those claims so lightly while still being a junior.
Edit: Too late...
Haha, wow.
Actually it's the opposite. I would say all these people who want Microsoft to succeed with the XB1 as it is currently are anti-games and anti-gamer. People are attacking Microsoft for a reason. They are trying to screw over the consumers completely.
Valkyria
Banned
What is it a joke, is that Microsoft is spending money on people like you as it would change anybody's mind about this shit storm.
EDIT: Man, that ban came really fast.
Tylahedras
Banned
Lol, why would anyone believe anything that MS says at this point?
Art Teitlebaum
Member
Banned, unsurprisingly. Dont feed the juniors guys
A quick look into post history reveals the truth. Either shill or troll, it doesn't matter. Just ignore. ;-)