zomgbbqftw
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Like I said, it's not insider information, just a developer musing on what makes sense in logical terms.
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Like I said, it's not insider information, just a developer musing on what makes sense in logical terms.
Very plausable theory
That literally explains everything. I like this theory.
It would explain why we didn't hear anything about this from anyone, since it would be a temporary measure. It explains why an OS would eat up so much memory, when in fact it isn't. It also helps address the fact that it wouldn't make any sense to partition so much to the OS after the 8GB upgrade.
the Vita with it's puny 512+128 ram has cross game chat
R3TRODYCE
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As God as my witness, I will never love again.
I love GAF
Interesting theory. It is true at least that final dev kits have not been sent out. The one's currently circulating (January 13 kits) have 8GB GDDR5 and no additional ram buffer. So your theory holds weight.
RedAssedApe
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everyone should just cancel all of their pre-orders. dont buy the system so price drop for all!
PhoenixDawn
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I don't think Sony will make a public statement on this if it's true. What would they say? "Sony officially confirms removal of ~30% of RAM from game developers". Instead I think they'll just show off some new OS features or apps leading up to launch to show that they're at least trying to put it all to good use without actually confirming the amount they've allocated. I guess a dev could confirm this, but I highly doubt Sony themselves will comment on it.
Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
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Edge was the source of possible 8GB in final console...
Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
Oh yeah, now of course Gies and co. knew about the RAM increase ages ago, when most devs (including 1st party) had no idea. right.
Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
Ha! You mean "Secret Sauce" Gies trying to corroborate a story? That makes it even less believable lol.
Can Crusher
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Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
Neither Gies nor Brad know what the fuck they are talking about. I've listened to Giantbomb before, and I never knew people could be paid to be ignorant about the industry they cover.
ViewtifulJC
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-works on Assassin's Creed/for UbiSoft
BleachAndPepsi
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Looks like someone got confirmation (maybe) out of a dev...though the dev insists it's no big deal.
IHaveCandy
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Yeah, it always bugged me how Giant Bomb and several other video game sites wouldn't eat the crow they deserved to eat after saying the PS4 would certainly do the same DRM nonsense of the Xbox One for a month straight.
I'd love for this to be true, but I'm not getting my hopes up...
I don't have a dog in this fight, but could this be due to lack of optimization.
I know with Nintnedo, they opened up a ton of ram on the 3DS after a year or so after they had optimized the OS on the portable.
I am sure PS4 is rushing to get everything locked down for launch...perhaps in the next year or so they will free up more of dat RAM for the developers.
I know with Nintnedo, they opened up a ton of ram on the 3DS after a year or so after they had optimized the OS on the portable.
I am sure PS4 is rushing to get everything locked down for launch...perhaps in the next year or so they will free up more of dat RAM for the developers.
Team Filler
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Arthur Gies literally knows what he's talking about.
lol
FunkyPajamas
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12GB doesn't make sense though, from a commercial point of view. It should be 14GB.
Zombie James
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Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
Brad knew about this for five months? Uh huh.
4.5GB plus an additional 1GB flexible buffer. So 5.5GB as the OP and thread title suggests. One developer has already confirmed his game is using over 5GB, so it can't be 4.5GB lol.
So called "games journalism" at finest. Money doesn't stink
Hulkamania78
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As a fanboy of neither and someone who is getting both day one, Sony have been pro gamer from day one and like E3 which despite what they said did include the camera and a price point the same as the Xbox One ( Thats from a Sony friend of mine - beleive that i dont care)
They saw how MS got hammered for TV , pricing and Kinect they reacted accordingly to gamers and in turn boosted sales. There not as truthful as everyone on here seems to think. There here to make money and by keeping any negatives back they ve won the launch window but I can't believe its as back and white as everyone believes. They don't just right 8 years of wrongs with the PS3. They stumbled at times , I believe they have learned and Mark Cerny is a brilliant man and speaks professionally and with real passion but MS dropped the ball and Sony did the right thing and seized the opportunity .
I think the next few months the Xbox will gain ground big time. All is not what it seems at the moment is all ill say.
They saw how MS got hammered for TV , pricing and Kinect they reacted accordingly to gamers and in turn boosted sales. There not as truthful as everyone on here seems to think. There here to make money and by keeping any negatives back they ve won the launch window but I can't believe its as back and white as everyone believes. They don't just right 8 years of wrongs with the PS3. They stumbled at times , I believe they have learned and Mark Cerny is a brilliant man and speaks professionally and with real passion but MS dropped the ball and Sony did the right thing and seized the opportunity .
I think the next few months the Xbox will gain ground big time. All is not what it seems at the moment is all ill say.
Sho_Nuff82
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GI really said 16GB GDDR5 tablets will be the norm in 2018? Lol
shinobi602
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As God as my witness, I will never love again.
Oh shit :lol
Man-is-Obsolete
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I love that the Vita is showing why this rumor makes no sense. lol. It's crazy, we got DVRs that can record 6 shows at once and a handheld that can multitask better than any current gen console, yet the PS4 will need 3.5 GBs for cross game chat and recording the last 15 minutes of game play.
dragonfart28
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This thread wouldn't be complete without an Arthur Gies tweet, lol
roflmao
Thread just keeps on delivering.
roflmao
Thread just keeps on delivering.
metareferential
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This is basically what happened with the 360, when Ms introduced newer kits with 1gb ram, so that more ram could be directly addressed.
Confirmation bias if you were to switch your statements.
OldAsUrSock
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Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
Why are people using commas now instead of periods? Like what sort of messed up school does that now or is this some meme I have never heard of?
Portugeezer
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Shots fired!!
RedAssedApe
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airmangataosenai
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The only reason I tolerated a feature I saw useless like sharing was because I thought that the overhead would be minimal. This throws a wrench in that.
Can Crusher
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Looks like someone got confirmation (maybe) out of a dev...though the dev insists it's no big deal.
I just love these guys who say it doesn't matter, and we shouldn't even be worried about specs. Like we should be ignorant.
Go and make games for the Wii U if it doesn't matter.
Someone please tell me this is another funny reference to a post from long ago?
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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Yes, obviously. I'm talking about future additions to the software that we don't know about yet. There could be some amazing feature that takes up a lot of memory, and PS4 owners would be golden because there would be enough reserved ram to make it possible.
zomgbbqftw
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Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
I thought Edge leaked the 8GB RAM?
BrainZEROX
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Because we were expecting a game console "built by gamers for gamers". Not a social media hub that can play games among other services. 3.5 GB is super huge, I really wonder why they need that much memory...
gameinformer
Nah, not the "Shot themselves in the foot" post. I found what I was thinking of. It was actually a GameFAQs post, but we made fun of it in the FF13 Betrayal thread:
Anihawk was clearly cribbing this.
Shin
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There are a lot of OS features that Sony hasn't shown yet, IIRC they even had a patent for voice amongst others.
During the PS3/Xbox360 era both companies copied features from each other, so I'm pretty sure that will happen again (it's a good thing).
Leaving sufficient room for improvement and/or features is a good thing, IMO 6GB for games and 2 for the OS would be ideal.
Gies is also alleged in his recent twitter posts that DF knew about the 8GB way before anyone.
To me there are two conclusions: DF didn't and Gies is lying. DF knew and failed to report on a credible rumor, so they failed their readers.
They post all kinds of random bullshit without doing any checking, so why not the 8GB RAM increase?
These buddy-buddies in the games industry don't even understand the implications of their statements.
...huh?
I don't recall Eurogamer knowing about the 8GB GDDR5. Thought that was EDGE.Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
Also, lol at Mr. Super Secret Special Sauce Gies