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CVG: Microsoft to reveal 'major 3rd party game' comes free with X1 [MCV: FIFA 14]

Freki

Member
That doesn't mean though that things will remain the same. Touch screen phones had the disadvantage of no buttons. Yet over time they were able to take off due to new features that made innovative use of what was there.
Touchpad keyboards are still inferior to hardware keyboards and are only made remotely bearable by employing smart prediction algorithms. The advantages of touchpads lie in scrolling capabilities and the space you are able to safe by not having a physical keyboard. There's a reason people are still prefering mouse and keyboard when it comes to productive work or gaming...


Define "killer core app". There are a few games that are more core gaming oriented kinect games that got good reception; Gunstringer comes to mind but since it isn't a mature looking game (though it does have adult content/jokes), I don't know if you would consider that a "core app".
Gears of War Kinect; Halo Kinect; Last of Us Kinect;
Something along these lines when it comes to quality, core focus and broad appeal while making full use of Kinect like Dance Central... not some tacked on functionality.

Better chance at their kinect oriented games selling well since kinect comes in every box. Very small portion of a group who own a product vs. EVERYONE who owns the product.

The latter is definitely more appealing.
"Everyone" will still be smaller than the "small 24m portion of a group" for the next 2-3 years...


And if we want to talk about console userbases at launch in this way, then why are so many devs making big budget AAA games for the early part of next gen? Couldn't we expand it into that as well?
Cross-gen? Console manufacturers paying money to help with development? Lack of competition?


Is merka some sort of new meme I am not aware of?
'murica
 

Bgamer90

Banned
Touchpad keyboards are still inferior to hardware keyboards and are only made remotely bearable by employing smart prediction algorithms. The advantages of touchpads lie in scrolling capabilities and the space you are able to safe by not having a physical keyboard. There's a reason people are still prefering mouse and keyboard when it comes to productive work or gaming...

That's your opinion (as well as their opinion). There are people that feel that touchpad is faster for typing on phones (since you just tap instead of physically pushing down) and like touchscreens better for multiple situations.

That's all that these next gen consoles are giving via their features -- they aren't trying to replace anything. They are just giving multiple ways for various people to do things; many of which can be more convenient in certain situations (whether in games or in the console's main interface).

Gears of War Kinect; Halo Kinect; Last of Us Kinect;
Something along these lines when it comes to quality, core focus and broad appeal while making full use of Kinect like Dance Central... not some tacked on functionality.

A decent number (especially here) would consider those games/series shallow "AAA" games.

Also, the game I mentioned before (Gunstringer) makes full use of kinect and was pretty fun to play. But again, since it doesn't fit the typical "AAA" gaming mold then I guess that game wouldn't be "core" to you.

Cross-gen?

Fantasia says "hi."

Console manufacturers paying money to help with development? Lack of competition?

You think this isn't/won't be true for any future games that aren't just "traditional core"?
 

Zen

Banned
That's the thing, you are saying it won't change much now. All I said/implied was that the perception of the bundle can change after launch.

But I guess you strictly want to talk about "the now" so I'll stop. I just like to see things further ahead after seeing so many examples of things changing over time (especially when it comes to the category of tech).

If you want to talk about further ahead we can do that. It just wasn't what I was addressing. Honestly, unless the XB1 gets bigger coups than this, I'd be estimating that the PS4 will outsell the XB1 by a greater margin than the PS3 has the 360, to be sure. We're not going to see a PS2-Xbox like disparity, but the PS4 will probably sell millions and millions more. I have no real clue how much because IO haven't put much thought into it, but I could see 20 million over the generation?
 

Freki

Member
That's your opinion (as well as their opinion). There are people that feel that touchpad is faster for typing on phones (since you just tap instead of physically pushing down) and like touchscreens better for multiple situations.
Can't argue opinions...

That's all that these next gen consoles are giving via their features -- they aren't trying to replace anything. They are just giving multiple ways for various people to do things; many of which can be more convenient in certain situations (whether in games or in the console's main interface).
You are correct - kinect doesn't take anything away but offers more options - question is if these options seem to be worth the money MS is asking for them.

A decent number (especially here) would consider those games/series shallow "AAA" games.

Also, the game I mentioned before (Gunstringer) makes full use of kinect and was pretty fun to play. But again, since it doesn't fit the typical "AAA" gaming mold then I guess that game wouldn't be "core" to you.
I don't really like 2 out of 3 of these games ^^ - my point was that something of this calibre would be needed to convince people of the potential kinect has.


Fantasia says "hi."
Sorry I don't get it.

You think this isn't/won't be true for any future games that aren't just "traditional core"?
I don't know and that's the problem in my opinion. It was Microsoft's idea to make Kinect2 an essential part of the xbox one and it's their responsibilty to make a compelling case for why that's a good thing for gamers. I don't see them making that case at the moment...

anyways - I'm off to bed - but if you'd like to discuss this further I'd gladly reply tomorrow...
 

goomba

Banned
sucks for people who dont like football or football games.

remember when xbox used to be about "choices" ? (hard drive, kinect )
 

Vire

Member
why, just wait till you wake up. it's only video games.

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As someone who plays FUT I can't imagine this exclusive content being anything special. Unless it's like 50 free premium gold packs and even then you could open them all up and get no good cards.
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
FIFA in the EU

Madden in the US

Boom.
While this sounds good in theory, won't people look at it and go "Why don't I buy a PS4 and FIFA/Madden separately, since it'll still turn out to be cheaper"?

When is ms gamecom conference?
They're not live streaming it at all (most likely due to what CBOAT was saying yesterday - new SDK has dropped performance on their Devkits, and you wouldn't want to show gameplay in case it buggered up onstage).
Apparently their GamesCon event is closed-door.
 
While this sounds good in theory, won't people look at it and go "Why don't I buy a PS4 and FIFA/Madden separately, since it'll still turn out to be cheaper"?

I would assume it would be more for people on the fence and building momentum. I dont really imagine anyone will be canceling preorders.
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
I would assume it would be more for people on the fence and building momentum. I dont really imagine anyone will be canceling preorders.
I guess, with the building of momentum. The difference is if that momentum will actually carry over to sales numbers at the store level when people start checking out prices and see that buying a PS4 and the game separately will still be cheaper than the Xbone with the game thrown in. That could also be coupled with the fact that, if the PS4 launches first and is able to develop a decent enough install base before the Xbone and FIFA/Madden 14 launch, then the chance of people shelling out for a Xbone for FIFA would be diminished.

Also, love your username. "Marauder Shields - we honour his sacrifice." :)
 
Wait.. so is Fifa going Xbone exclusive? Or a MS just giving it away for free with Xbone? Surely it sells more on PS consoles than Xbox historically.
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
Wait.. so is Fifa going Xbone exclusive? Or a MS just giving it away for free with Xbone? Surely it sells more on PS consoles than Xbox historically.
Sounds like it'll be thrown in for free, and apparently FIFA on Xbone gets some exclusive content or some shit. Either way, nothing to really care about.
 

Kazman

Neo Member
This will be huge in the UK at least, most of my gaming circle are on 360's and something like this will make a jump to the XBO all the more frictionless. As long as its not an exclusive (which it wont be) this is only a good thing for gamers. Nothing like a bit of competition to keep things interesting!
 

Gorillaz

Member
Just saw a madden 25 commercial. Ended with xbox being the official console of the NFL

Its only a matter of time till a madden pack in is stated.
 
No. Perplexed. Why give up money that you could make off of an established fan base (and piss them off to boot) when the console they are excluding is out reserving the favored console by a significant margin?
This is free money for EA. They'll still get their PS3/PS4/360 sales, but if Microsoft want to subsidize the Xbone version, guaranteeing EA a sale(and probably more) with every Xbone sold, then it only benefits EA. Also, I'm guessing that EA bet on Xbone winning next gen, and that's why you have all these Xbone deals for EA games early-on. Deals like exclusive content or timed exclusives like Titanfall probably aren't looking to do as well as EA was expecting, pre MS face plant. Getting more Xbones into customers' homes via a FIFA pack-in deal also bolsters the installed based for EA's other Xbone deals.
 

Bsigg12

Member
There's no way a FIFA game would ever be exclusive now - EA may love money, but they're not THAT stupid :)

EA can't make a FIFA branded soccer game exclusive. It is in the contract they have with FIFA that they are not allowed to make a game for just one console.
 
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