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[hey_it's_that_dog]

Well seeing how the majority of GAF reacts to Albert Penello. I'd say that his post is somewhat understandable. Would you be able to keep your cool if everything that you say is twisted and used against you?

I wouldn't because I'm just a regular person and it would be insane if people took everything I said and twisted it and used it against me.

Penello is a PR guy. It's his job to twist words. And it's a responsible consumer's job to twist right back and challenge everything he says. If he says something that can't be legitimately challenged, then you've found a nugget of truth. Taking everything he says at face value wouldn't be smart.

 

[Wynnebeck]

After the directx meltdown I would expect that his "credibility" was already destroyed.

Well seeing how the majority of GAF reacts to Albert Penello. I'd say that his post is somewhat understandable. Would you be able to keep your cool if everything that you say is twisted and used against you?

He wouldn't have to worry about this if he wasn't spewing the approved MS PR message to us every time he showed up. We've all said multiple times that Albert is a great guy for talking to us, but what he says should be taken with a mountain of salt and more so now after the DirectX meltdown.

 

[QaaQer]

I wouldn't because I'm just a regular person and it would be insane if people took everything I said and twisted it and used it against me.

Penello is a PR guy. It's his job to twist words. And it's a responsible consumer's job to twist right back and challenge everything he says. If he says something that can't be legitimately challenged, then you've found a nugget of truth. Taking everything he says at face value wouldn't be smart.

GabeN sez: "You cannot outsmart the internet. Collective intelligence is always greater than individual intelligence."

source: my memory of some podcast where he also said he hated the Sopranos because all the people were spiritually ugly, and My Little Pony is an awesome show. Correct on all three accounts btw.

 

[Caronte]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but someone is creating bots to tip the gamespot platform battle in Xbox One's favor.

http://gamesided.com/2013/09/08/someone-is-using-bots-to-balance-ps4-vs-xbox-one-twitter-contest/

This is beyond pathetic.

 

[-SD-]

 

[velociraptor]

I called this weeks ago:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=74541511&postcount=621

Of course people laughed at me. Who's laughing now?

Good work. And yet there is this misplaced thought that both consoles will perform the same.

Not sure why the 7790 is used as a benchmark for the GPU in the Xbox though. It's a 1.79TF GPU.

 

[maquiladora]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but someone is creating bots to tip the gamespot platform battle in Xbox One's favor.

http://gamesided.com/2013/09/08/someone-is-using-bots-to-balance-ps4-vs-xbox-one-twitter-contest/

lmao

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

He wouldn't have to worry about this if he wasn't spewing the approved MS PR message to us every time he showed up. We've all said multiple times that Albert is a great guy for talking to us, but what he says should be taken with a mountain of salt and more so now after the DirectX meltdown.

Do you have a link to this meltdown thread? I must have missed it.

 

[Spongebob]

Do you have a link to this meltdown thread? I must have missed it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80168873&postcount=708

 

[rawd]

Hype! November 15th is so close!


I just realized that there's a green screen behind her. What was the final product?

A creampie

 

[Afrikan]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but someone is creating bots to tip the gamespot platform battle in Xbox One's favor.

http://gamesided.com/2013/09/08/someone-is-using-bots-to-balance-ps4-vs-xbox-one-twitter-contest/

who would have the incentive and time to do that?

that's like creating a fake website to ask for something for Christmas.

 

[mangochutney]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but someone is creating bots to tip the gamespot platform battle in Xbox One's favor.

http://gamesided.com/2013/09/08/someone-is-using-bots-to-balance-ps4-vs-xbox-one-twitter-contest/

In fairness I doubt the Saudi Arabia votes are legit, they suddenly turned up ages ago in a very short period of time.

 

[3rdamention]

I wouldn't because I'm just a regular person and it would be insane if people took everything I said and twisted it and used it against me.

Penello is a PR guy. It's his job to twist words. And it's a responsible consumer's job to twist right back and challenge everything he says. If he says something that can't be legitimately challenged, then you've found a nugget of truth. Taking everything he says at face value wouldn't be smart.

He will be the first to tell you he is not a PR guy. Which I find funny since we see him doing more PR than that other non PR guy Major Nelson.

 

[BleachAndPepsi]

He will be the first to tell you he is not a PR guy. Which I find funny since we see him doing more PR than that other non PR guy Major Nelson.

If he's not PR, he may want to inform the folks at Microsoft and update his LinkedIn profile (http://www.linkedin.com/in/albertpenello?_mSplash=1):

Sr. Director - Product Planning, Compete and User Research at Microsoft
Director Of Marketing at Microsoft

It's his job to try to sell people on Microsoft products. That's what a guy in marketing does. It's PR, plain and simple.

 

[anexanhume]

In fairness I doubt the Saudi Arabia votes are legit, they suddenly turned up ages ago in a very short period of time.

Yeah, those seem cooked, but the 90:10 ratio was pretty much everywhere, not just there.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

I called this weeks ago:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=74541511&postcount=621

Of course people laughed at me. Who's laughing now?

Well, damn.

 

[Iacobellis]

A creampie

Holy shit.

 

[RulkezX]

He will be the first to tell you he is not a PR guy. Which I find funny since we see him doing more PR than that other non PR guy Major Nelson.

If he's not PR, he may want to inform the folks at Microsoft and update his LinkedIn profile (http://www.linkedin.com/in/albertpenello?_mSplash=1):



It's his job to try to sell people on Microsoft products. That's what a guy in marketing does. It's PR, plain and simple.

His Twitter says he is marketing as well

Old school games industry marketer and planner. Leads planning for Xbox One, Xbox 360 and Kinect. Lover of movies, video games, muscle cars and giant robots.

 

[Iacobellis]

I want a Kaz/Cerny/@yosp/House edition of this:

Dude... They SHOULD do that!

 

[Jack_AG]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but someone is creating bots to tip the gamespot platform battle in Xbox One's favor.

http://gamesided.com/2013/09/08/someone-is-using-bots-to-balance-ps4-vs-xbox-one-twitter-contest/

Hot damn that's amazing!

 

[RadarScope1]

His Twitter says he is marketing as well

^^ The first line is what he used to do, hence "old school." The second line is what he does now - product planning at Xbox. He not directly in marketing or PR. Just because someone posts on GAF doesn't make them a PR person.

 

[nib95]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but someone is creating bots to tip the gamespot platform battle in Xbox One's favor.

http://gamesided.com/2013/09/08/someone-is-using-bots-to-balance-ps4-vs-xbox-one-twitter-contest/

Brings a whole new meaning to Xbots.

 

[Sub_Level]

If the boot up screen is something similar to that I will vomit. Unless we're able to change the colors. Give me Playstation Underground black and red pls. And the PS logo itself in that gif needs colors. Plain silver is ugly.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Any word on the numbers being manufactured?

IF the yields are high enough, we may see the 4 to 1 worldwide sales figures they've been talking about vs. Xbox 1.

 

[fastford58]

^^ The first line is what he used to do, hence "old school." The second line is what he does now - product planning at Xbox. He not directly in marketing or PR. Just because someone posts on GAF doesn't make them a PR person.

He comes here and shills his company's console, damage controls negative news, and dismisses facts that don't fit his corporation's narrative.

Now tell me how he isn't a PUBLIC RELATIONS person since that is exactly what he does here. Public relations.

 

[BleachAndPepsi]

^^ The first line is what he used to do, hence "old school." The second line is what he does now - product planning at Xbox. He not directly in marketing or PR. Just because someone posts on GAF doesn't make them a PR person.

His LinkedIn says he's Director of Marketing. And the profile is up to date.

 

[RulkezX]

^^ The first line is what he used to do, hence "old school." The second line is what he does now - product planning at Xbox. He not directly in marketing or PR. Just because someone posts on GAF doesn't make them a PR person.

Old school doesn't mean it's what he used to do and I have never heard it used in that context. It means someone who is old fashioned or traditional.

I don't care if people like him post here, it's probably even a good thing, but from he did seem to go quite quickly from being quite helpful to saying stuff like

" There is stuff about xbox that people don't understand that makes it more powerful , and things people don't understand about PS4 that makes it weaker than it seems". That's when it crosses the line from engaging the community to PR.

 

[CambriaRising]

I don't like the idea of any PR employees posting on GAF representing their company.

Penello was fine until he started spreading FUD to mislead people. That crossed the line in my opinion.

 

[chubigans]

Dude... They SHOULD do that!

Done!

 

[everyday math]

Done!

Lmao. Do want.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Done!

LOL Dat Cerny face.

 

[Yazuka]

I called this weeks ago:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=74541511&postcount=621

Of course people laughed at me. Who's laughing now?

I'm not a smart man... Could I get the short version of what that means?
It mostly confused me..

 

[BleachAndPepsi]

Done!

Day one.

 

[kitch9]

Any word on the numbers being manufactured?

IF the yields are high enough, we may see the 4 to 1 worldwide sales figures they've been talking about vs. Xbox 1.

The PS4 apu looks relatively uncomplicated yields should be ok I would have thought.

 

[DrM]

Done!

Tweet this to Yoshida

 

[chubigans]

Tweet this to Yoshida

Done! Haha

 

[Chobel]

Done!

Nice!!!

Tweet this to Yoshida

Done.

 

[squidyj]

Tweet this to Yoshida

2 kaz? needs more Cerny-senpai.

 

[dubq]

He wouldn't have to worry about this if he wasn't spewing the approved MS PR message to us every time he showed up. We've all said multiple times that Albert is a great guy for talking to us, but what he says should be taken with a mountain of salt and more so now after the DirectX meltdown.

Grain of salt, dude.

 

[stonesak]

Done!

Replace one of the Kaz images with the Jim Ryan extreme close-up, and it'll be perfect.

 

[Snakeyes]

Grain of salt, dude.

A tub of salt would be more appropriate.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Grain of salt, dude.

Nah I say mountain. His trustworthiness has tanked lately.

 

[kasane]

So i didn't catch the direct x meltdown. Was that where MS has directx meme came form?

 

[Domino792]

Done!

Sold!

 

[Radec]

So i didn't catch the direct x meltdown. Was that where MS has directx meme came form?

"Numbers are pointless, our smart engineers created directx".. Something like that.

 

[kasane]

"Numbers are pointless, our smart engineers created directx".. Something like that.

Oh lawd.

 

[Spine_Ripper]

Replace one of the Kaz images with the Jim Ryan extreme close-up, and it'll be perfect.

This. This so much.

 

[Iacobellis]

Done!

Now I want Mark Cerny to sign my future PS4 box. Hell, I'd want ALL of them to do it.

 

[androvsky]

So i didn't catch the direct x meltdown. Was that where MS has directx meme came form?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80168873&postcount=708

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious.

The funny part is when you read the thread and there's dozens of responses acting like it's some epic truthbomb.

 

[3rdamention]

His LinkedIn says he's Director of Marketing. And the profile is up to date.

I swear he said here on GAF he wasn't PR. I can't look at his posts cause I'm on celly. But I thought he said that, even though his posts ARE PR and marketing IS PR.