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[atbigelow]

let's stop that considering the hardware crap. Shin'en already stated Wii U can do more than major developers are stating. Is pushing this game to 1080pworth the extra development cost to Nintendo?
That's the question when I was saying they could I meant the hardware is capable but to them the jump from 720p to 1080p wasn't worth the visual upgrade. Just like Shin'en said they had nano assault neo at 1080p but they dropped it to 720p and used the extra power for graphical effects.

Just because the hardware is capable of 1080p, doesn't mean it has the power to do it for every game. Nintendo wanted HD (720p) at a high framerate (60 FPS). They knew they could still do some great graphics and meet that. Going to 1080p they would have had to make cuts somewhere.

Wii U has plenty of oomph to make beautiful games, but do not spit out "it's just development costs stopping it from being 1080p."

And as a note, I am so g-damn excited for this game now. Very happy Wii U owner right now.

 

[ggd210]

The first time I saw the game trailer I was like... "really...???" now... I'm so happy with those screens, are amazing!!

A lot more here

http://nintendoeverything.com/new-super-mario-3d-world-screenshots-2/

 

[EatChildren]

Where were these 1080p demanders during the Wii?

Everywhere, because on average the Wii's DS 480p resolution forcibly upscaled to 720p/1080p displays looked fucking terrible.

 

[scitek]

I assume the people criticizing this game for not being too ambitious missed the part where the Wii U's been selling like shit and needs a surefire homerun exclusive this holiday to help it stand out in a crowded market.

 

[Motley Grue]

Another Nintendo Wii U game with some spectacular lightning, I love the envelop it gives to the characters.

Looks like a scene from a 1990s version of POVRay. If any of you know what I'm talking about, that's a big compliment. Looks like real time raytracing. Plus I love cats. Preordered.

 

[Flying Toaster]

I assume the people criticizing this game for not being too ambitious missed the part where the Wii U's been selling like shit and needs a surefire homerun exclusive this holiday to help it stand out in a crowded market.

This title might be just that. I am worried that enough people will not gravitate to the system because of just this game though.

I can't wait for it to come out but I am being realistic as far as it pushing a huge surge of console sales.

 

[marc^o^]

I can't wait for it to come out but I am being realistic as far as it pushing a huge surge of console sales.

If the game is blessed with as much Nintendo magic/EAD genius as it seems, kids will ask for it, and multi console gamers too.

 

[HeisenbergLannister]

I assume the people criticizing this game for not being too ambitious missed the part where the Wii U's been selling like shit and needs a surefire homerun exclusive this holiday to help it stand out in a crowded market.

This are mostly the same people with raging boners over every other sequel out there, except the ones from Nintendo because "it's milking".

 

[Pachimari]

I'm gonna put this on my wishlist for Christmas, and get going with Super Mario 3D Land on 3DS meanwhile!

 

[jwhit28]

I noticed a lot of media outlets talking about the gap between Galaxy 2 and 3D World like it has been forever. Super Mario Galaxy 2 came out in 2010.

 

[blu]

Everywhere, because on average the Wii's DS 480p resolution forcibly upscaled to 720p/1080p displays looked fucking terrible.

SD.

But otherwise yes - quite a few people suffered not so much from the SD resolution, as much as from the sub-par scaling technology employed by their HDTV sets.

/a former EDTV plasma owner - SD bliss.

 

[TheExecutive]

this stupid game is going to make me buy a WiiU isnt it? LOVED 3D Land on my 3ds- this looks to surpass it as the best 3d mario.

 

[Dictator93]

Looks like a scene from a 1990s version of POVRay. If any of you know what I'm talking about, that's a big compliment. Looks like real time raytracing. Plus I love cats. Preordered.

Looks like real time ray tracing?

It is just blinn phong shading with the specular term turned up.

So much hyperbole in this thread regarding the graphics. Nintendo discovers programmable shaders and the world goes bonkers.

That shader quality reminds me of the first forays into programmable shading that we saw around doom 3 or Call of Duty II where everything was overly specular and non-energy conserving.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Looks like real time ray tracing?

It is just blinn phong shading with the specular term turned up.

So much hyperbole in this thread regarding the graphics. Nintendo discovers programmable shaders and the world goes bonkers.

That shader quality reminds me of the first forays into programmable shading that we saw around doom 3 or Call of Duty II where everything was overly specular and non-energy conserving.

I think he was saying that it looks like raytracing, not implying that it actually is

 

[blu]

So much hyperbole in this thread regarding the graphics. Nintendo discovers programmable shaders and the world goes bonkers.

That shader quality reminds me of the first forays into programmable shading that we saw around doom 3 or Call of Duty II where everything was overly specular and non-energy conserving.

Or you know, it could be the art direction Mario platformers have been employing for the past 30 years.

For reference of 'nintendo not just discovering programmable shaders' see MK8 footage.

 

[RobFox64tm]

Looks like real time ray tracing?

It is just blinn phong shading with the specular term turned up.

So much hyperbole in this thread regarding the graphics. Nintendo discovers programmable shaders and the world goes bonkers.

That shader quality reminds me of the first forays into programmable shading that we saw around doom 3 or Call of Duty II where everything was overly specular and non-energy conserving.

What a joyless life you must lead... so sad.

 

[Oblivion]

We could make the exact same case for 60fps Vs 30fps. Would you prefer a Mario game at 1080p/30fps, or 720p/60fps? I personally would take either option, for most games(except for fighters, 60fps or bust!), but I think 60fps platformers and racers are tough to 'trade' in.

I don't really see the need for 60fps in non-competitive games (platformers, adventure games).

Before I played the SMGs, I was skeptical of 60 fps Mario games, but now I can never go back.

 

[darkazcura]

Some quick, positive, impressions of the game.

This guy isn't even an Nintendo fanboy, and never played the galaxy games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvM3QIwizMc

Cool video. It really bothers me, though. Guy is basically "I don't like Nintendo games.." then goes on to say "I never played the Galaxy games". Sounds like some people on this forum..those two statements together sound ridiculous to me. You can't say "I don't like ___" and then admit to never playing one of the best that company makes.

Eh. Ugh.

At least he sees the light with this game. That's nice.

 

[Apocryphon]

Where were these 1080p demanders during the Wii?

Playing Wii games via Dolphin.

 

[amrum]

This game + the price drop convinced me to buy a WiiU !
Can't wait to play it with my son & my wife on Christmas morning...

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Cool video. It really bothers me, though. Guy is basically "I don't like Nintendo games.." then goes on to say "I never played the Galaxy games". Sounds like some people on this forum..those two statements together sound ridiculous to me. You can't say "I don't like ___" and then admit to never playing one of the best that company makes.

Eh. Ugh.

At least he sees the light with this game. That's nice.

Its easy not to like a company if you don't play any of their games. Let alone their best ones.

 

[Weiner Whistle]

This game is looking most excellent. The creativity level is off the charts, both in its visual presentation and unique mechanics! This image has me the most excited due to the sheer variety of challenges it depicts:

I look forward to visiting Bowser Land in the near future!

 

[Lonely1]

Everywhere, because on average the Wii's DS 480p resolution forcibly upscaled to 720p/1080p displays looked fucking terrible.

\hugs 44 inch HD CRT Tv.

 

[cube444]

Toad's the fucking best.

I'm going to play as Toad all the time.

:lol

My younger niece has claimed Toad.

My other niece has claimed Peach.

Leaves me with Mario or Luigi.

 

[H_Prestige]

Cool video. It really bothers me, though. Guy is basically "I don't like Nintendo games.." then goes on to say "I never played the Galaxy games". Sounds like some people on this forum..those two statements together sound ridiculous to me. You can't say "I don't like ___" and then admit to never playing one of the best that company makes.

Eh. Ugh.

At least he sees the light with this game. That's nice.

Yes, because if you haven't played two relatively recent Nintendo games, you are not qualified to have an opinion on the company's software. Which dates back over 20 years.

 

[Projectjustice]

Wow impressive!

 

[Kai Dracon]

Yes, because if you haven't played two relatively recent Nintendo games, you are not qualified to have an opinion on the company's software. Which dates back over 20 years.

It's pretty common for people to say "I don't like anything ____ makes" then admit they don't have any idea what said company has done in 10 years.

You can certainly state that kind of opinion. But it will probably make it look like an uninformed opinion.

 

[Shaunboy97]

Why did I come in this thread?

Now I want a WiiU..

DO IT!!! Support our gaming forefathers

 

[darkazcura]

Its easy not to like a company if you don't play any of their games. Let alone their best ones.

That's my point. haha, you are agreeing with me, yes? I'm just saying it's silly.

Yes, because if you haven't played two relatively recent Nintendo games, you are not qualified to have an opinion on the company's software. Which dates back over 20 years.

If he hasn't played Galaxy, I'm guessing he has barely (if ever) played the Wii, so yes, he is not qualified. It's been said a hundreds of times already, but it's ridiculous to put a blanket over Nintendo games and pretend they are all the same in the first place. I mean by calling it just "two relatively recent Nintendo games" and then speak for Nintendo's library of 20 years prior, you are basically saying Nintendo's software is too diverse to be judged on two games. That should also lead you to believe it's crazy to say "I don't like Nintendo games".

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Yes, because if you haven't played two relatively recent Nintendo games, you are not qualified to have an opinion on the company's software. Which dates back over 20 years.

You aren't allowed to have an opinion on the company's current software.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Lol, not many of them, most games past gen were sub 720

No they weren't.

 

[Apocryphon]

Lol, not many of them, most games past gen were sub 720

No.

List of rendering resolutions by platform...

 

[Sis Focaccia]

So much variety!

Dem tasty colors!
Om nom nom nom nom nom

AMAZEBALLS!!

EAD Tokyo truly are godly developers. If they reboot Zelda I will shit my pants

 

[Parablank]

Wow it looks beautiful

Not a question of if, but when I'm getting a Wii U after seeing all the stuff Nintendo's coming up with. SSB4, MK8, and SM3W are my main incentives, but W101 and Bayonetta 2 both look amazing.

Spoiler

Now I just have to get $300 :c

 

[revolverjgw]

Cat Luigi is green, Cat Peach is pink, OK, that's fine, but Cat Mario is... yellow? This is going to drive me nuts.

 

[Fantastical]

its becoming sad how much gamers are chasing photorealisim now and days. there is nothing about this game to be disappointed about. I am also sure if nintendo wanted this game could be 1080p but 1080p means a lot less to Nintendo than it does to say Sony. Nintendo is how can we design this game and make it fun for the player first. Sony is how can we sell the player that what we said about the hardware capabilities are correct.

What are you talking about? 1080p doesn't only matter for photorealism. But please, spread the bullshit rhetoric that companies that care more about graphics than Nintendo don't care about gameplay.

 

[Kandinsky]

Is it confirmed you can pick any character, or are you again stuck with Mario for single player?.

 

[ArcaneFreeze]

What are you talking about? 1080p doesn't only matter for photorealism. But please, spread the bullshit rhetoric that companies that care more about graphics than Nintendo don't care about gameplay.

To be fair though, there aren't many companies that emphasize gameplay more than Nintendo. I mean you look at the photos and they just scream "FUN!" then on the other side you see photo's of AC4, BF4, etc. and it just doesn't have that same effect.

 

[revolverjgw]

Is it confirmed you can pick any character, or are you again stuck with Mario for single player?.

How awesome would a 3D version of this be

 

[skypunch]

Wow it looks beautiful

Not a question of if, but when I'm getting a Wii U after seeing all the stuff Nintendo's coming up with. SSB4, MK8, and SM3W are my main incentives, but W101 and Bayonetta 2 both look amazing.

Spoiler

Now I just have to get $300 :c

Why have you failed to mention Monolithsoft's 'X'?

 

[Terrible Majesty]

day one. wii u is gonna pick up with this release. havent been this excited for a mario game since, mario 64

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Is it confirmed you can pick any character, or are you again stuck with Mario for single player?.

I believe they mentioned selecting different characters for different playstyles like using Toad for speed runs, Mario for the average player, peach for beginners, etc. I could be wrong.

 

[TDLink]

Is it confirmed you can pick any character, or are you again stuck with Mario for single player?.

Yes it is confirmed you can play any of the 4 at any time in single player. Both trailers clearly show this happening too.

 

[Heart of Black]

It's almost as if Nintendo is finally discovering shaders.

Shots look goodish, though. Just overkill on the shaders at times.

 

[hatchx]

day one. wii u is gonna pick up with this release. havent been this excited for a mario game since, mario 64

I don't understand this mentality. Mario galaxy was like omega amazing...

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

I don't understand this mentality. Mario galaxy was like omega amazing...

Yeah I'm not expecting this to surpass galaxy 2 in awesomeness or anything that extreme. But looks like a helluva lot of colourful, creative, HD fun. Day 1!

 

[Zalman]

I have extremely high expectations for every 3D Mario game, yet EAD Tokyo always seem to exceed them... Well, except for maybe Sunshine. Not that it was a bad game, but it wasn't on par with the rest.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I don't understand this mentality. Mario galaxy was like omega amazing...

The only downsides to the Galaxy games are the limited power ups. Those two games are fantastic.

 

[Spike]

I have extremely high expectations for every 3D Mario game, yet EAD Tokyo always seem to exceed them... Well, except for maybe Sunshine. Not that it was a bad game, but it wasn't on par with the rest.

EAD Tokyo didn't make Sunshine.

 

[Rarity]

The more I see of it, the more I like.