It's possible, but I really doubt it. You'll also have to factor in the fact that a significant number of gamers hook their consoles up to PC monitors which are basically all 1080p and above.
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Infinity Ward confirms: CoD Ghost is 720p on Xbox One, 1080p on PS4
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It's possible, but I really doubt it. You'll also have to factor in the fact that a significant number of gamers hook their consoles up to PC monitors which are basically all 1080p and above.
Somethin' I cooked up. Let me know if it needs correcting.
pretty accurate to me
I don't recall that. I do recall having to buy a TV at the Navy Exchange 2 years ago in Yokosuka Japan because it was way cheaper than in town due to the Yen rate. Nearly every TV was 1080p 120hz 3D. The others were 1080p 120hz 2D. Zero 720p TV's in their showroom of about 20 models of various sizes.
Nightengale
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Any FPS that tells you they've kept a steady 60 have been lies.
All of them fluctuates the moment crazy stuff happen on-screen.
plasmawave
Banned
Someone's in for a surprise.
Yes... someone...
It's funny how I see no article on 720p vs 1080p on their site yet they have a site about the DLNA/MP3 Sony debacle. Will be interesting to see if they'll write a similar article for Xbox one if its found to not support it either.
Nightengale
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Someone's in for a surprise.
Are,you implying something?
Btw, can't get used to you with an avatar, much less a Ryse one.
CassidyIzABeast
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I hope we aren't still arguing about this goofy shit a whole year from now.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
No kidding? You should call them out on that via twitter or something. Would be interesting to see what kind of "defense" they would have then.
Someone's in for a surprise.
I personally think Halo is going to look gorgeous. I wouldn't even be surprised if it surpassed KZ: SF. That being said, I fully expect the games on PS4 to improve just as much, so the difference will still remain roughly the same.
1080p was the standard for LCDs when I bought my TV seven years ago. Chances are that if a person bought a TV within that time it's 1080p. I don't know if that's the majority, but it's certainly a significant percentage, especially in the larger sizes where that would matter.
Syphon Filter
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for halo im more worried about if they return to their roots as opossed to resolution.
EmCeeGramr
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People were arguing about Halo 3's sub-HD resolution two years after the 360 launched. That and the "subtle beauty" stuff was what I was referencing.
Someone's in for a surprise.
I have to hand it to you man, your blind faith in the XB1's capabilities despite extreme evidence to the contrary is the type of fanboyism that MS is depending on for the success of their new console.
Edit: Unless you have some actual insider information about Halo 5. In which case, consider my curiosity piqued.
Would be hilarious if the game had even weaker real-time effects than Halo 4. The dynamic lights already look like they're from a Playstation 2 game, why not just strip them out altogether? Don't worry that the water doesn't have geometrically animated waves, you'll never notice if there's no water!
I would think visually impressing people would be the least of Halo 5's concerns, though.
Sort of, though those algorithms are often a lot "smarter" than cheap real-time video scalers.
Here's an extreme example to see what a common scaling algorithm does when it's told to scale a very raw image by a huge factor.
Native 480x240:
Native 1216x608:
Native 480x240 upscaled to 1216x608 using lanczos scaling:
Forza 5 has no AA, and baked (aka last gen) lighting.
If you watch the videos of it running side by side against Forza 4, you can see it is an incremental update to the 360 games. The track side detail seems to be comparable, with only more bloom, good reflections, and a nice looking high res sky box the stand out differences.
pretty done
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"Well I upgraded my 1080p plasma to a 720p LCD for the Xbox One..."
Somethin' I cooked up. Let me know if it needs correcting.
very slick, well done.
in case people are wondering, black ops 2 is 880x720 on 360, dynamic on ps3 (DF recorded as low as 823x624 at worst, while matching the 880x720 of the 360 at best)
Xbox 720 jokes
Someone's in for a surprise.
See, this is a perfect length of a post. When you don't need mind gymnastic to put some crazy spin for xb1 ;p
DirgeExtinction
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This got me thinking.they couldn't help themselves
Before that, though, I have to admit I've never really read any of their reviews during this gen. So I'm a bit unsure about how biased/unbiased they were.
But here's my question: Did they ever make a big deal out of the small differences between current gen multiplats, especially when the XB360 version was better than the PS3 version? For example, if the XB360 version had better texture qualities, resolution, and/or frame rate?
If they did, then this reply of theirs is highly hypocritical.
NoPiece
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True but monitors are typically a lot smaller -- 27" at 3' is pretty similar to 46" at 6'.
CassidyIzABeast
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I think I found out that H3 was sub-HD this year.
...to recoup the $100 difference
Maybe if they keep the linear corridor shooter gameplay with gimped lighting, shadows, and particle effects from Halo 4. I don't see the XB1 powering wide open battlefields with hordes of AI characters, high quality dynamic lighting, and full quality particle effects at 1080p60.
I still daydream about Halo 3's double Scarab battle.
HORRORSHØW
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Thanks for the example. Yikes.Here's an extreme example to see what a common scaling algorithm does when it's told to scale a very raw image by a huge factor.
Native 480x240:
Native 1216x608:
Native 480x240 upscaled to 1216x608 using lanczos scaling:
flipswitch
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Bungie at first lied about Halo3's res, they said it was 720P but a guy called Quaz51 (I think it was him) at B3D figured out a way to find the native res of a game (via counting pixels alone diagonal lines).
He used it on Halo3 and found out that it was in fact not 720P, but much lower.
Bungie responded, kind of attacked the guy and started trying to add up the res of thier strange buffer setup to down play the fact they lied.
RAGE is the notable exception. It really runs at 60fps during the FPS sequences.
I'm new be nice
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Close enough to 2014 at this point
The Antitype
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Basically I'm stuck between getting the game on Xbox One, where most of my friends are going to be playing the game, and getting it on PS4, which will look better.
I'm leaning Xbox One, because I'm not one of those people that gets twitchy just from knowing that there's a version of the game out there that looks better than the one I'm playing. If I was, I would be a PC gamer.
As long as the game looks GOOD, I don't necessarily need it to look THE BEST, at least for now.
When devs start really pushing the hardware, maybe the differences will become great enough that I need to switch over and say 'sorry guys, can't do this anymore' to my buddies.
I'm leaning Xbox One, because I'm not one of those people that gets twitchy just from knowing that there's a version of the game out there that looks better than the one I'm playing. If I was, I would be a PC gamer.
As long as the game looks GOOD, I don't necessarily need it to look THE BEST, at least for now.
When devs start really pushing the hardware, maybe the differences will become great enough that I need to switch over and say 'sorry guys, can't do this anymore' to my buddies.
Yes, that was confirmed ages ago. I think it was DF that said the Vita effectively gets 2x SSAA because of it.
Not based on the images and direct feed I've seen. They were all jaggy city.
I could be wrong though.
SenjutsuSage
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Just implying the game is going to look amazing, which was already a safe bet. Just look at Halo 4. If people will be searching for negative console wars fodder with that game, I don't suspect they will find it.
Corrinne and the rest of 343 will do absolutely incredible work on that game. Of that there's no doubt in my mind. 60fps, amazing artwork, a technically brilliant game. The motion and performance capture stuff they worked on and used to such amazing result in Halo 4 will no doubt be on a whole other level on the Xbox One, and that alone is reason for excitement. And then the battles. Oh boy, I'm getting too excited too early. It's quite a ways off still, but, yea, I'm really anticipating the hell out of the next Halo. Halo 4 was my favorite campaign in the series by far.
Haha, yea, I'm digging my Ryse avatar. It's the game I'm most excited about for launch, so I thought it made sense as an avatar.
Nightengale
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Go where your friends are if you value that.
All things being said,the games will,still look fine on Xbox One, and the best exclusives will look good.
No point trying to be a lone wolf unless you're trying to make a a stand, or not going to convince your friends otherwise.
All things being said,the games will,still look fine on Xbox One, and the best exclusives will look good.
No point trying to be a lone wolf unless you're trying to make a a stand, or not going to convince your friends otherwise.
Somethin' I cooked up. Let me know if it needs correcting.
wow
I didn't even notice the ps4 square when I first looked at that.
You could ask them why they are getting an Xbone to begin with. Nothing is carrying over aside from friends list, achievements, and whatever gold sub you have remaining.
shinra-bansho
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lol, gifgaf delivers.nonono
flipswitch
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67611524
Here's the link claiming no AA in the retail version of Forza 5, SPE.
Here's the link claiming no AA in the retail version of Forza 5, SPE.
IAmRandom31
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Especially when I will be getting a R9 280X for 300$ and will be able to play anything @ 1080p x 60fps
And this is the start of a 5-7 year cycle.
Think about that for a moment and your mind is further blown.
Thank god Sony is here to save us all from another generation of incredibly limited hardware. The power gap between the PS4 and X1 is much larger then people are willing to admit. And the PS4 is easier to develop for ... and Sony has the best first party teams in the world ... and Sony has all the indie devs making games for em ...
By this time next year it could already be over, and PS4 well on its way to being the next PS2.
Hmmm .. maybe an HD remake from a previous gen title? Those were basically just resolution increases, and possibly texture size increases.
I believe Shadow of the Colossus was 720p on PS2, and they upped it to 1080p x 60fps and enhanced texture resolution.
As for the exact same game ... maybe Call of Duty 2 to CoD Ghosts?
ProcrasDANation
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Your points are all fine but are you willing to pay a premium for a lesser experience graphics wise? How set are your friends on sticking with XBONE?
If somehow (somewhat unlikely) Sony delivers a superior online performance would you still go with the One?
HORRORSHØW
Member
Same here. I was like, "uh...where's the PS4 part?" That image puts things in perspective for sure.
Derpcrawler
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Didn't expect them to confirm this rumor. But I don't think majority of CoD players will even notice. Both Sony and Microsoft will keep putting "output" resolution on the back of the game with mentioning 1080p and might be even 4k when consoles will get updates to allow output 4k through HDMI. I heard so many times this gen from people who only play CoD saying that Xbox version is better because it's 1080p and PS3 version is 720p, even though those are just output resolutions and they would call me fanboy when I told them CoD4 and so on all were 640p on both consoles.
Also I don't see why they couldn't push at least 900p on Xbox, the game don't even look as good as BF4.
Also I don't see why they couldn't push at least 900p on Xbox, the game don't even look as good as BF4.
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