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Bullshots: How close did PS4/XB1 games come to the E3 builds? Let's see!

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was anyone else looking for banderas
 

FranXico

Member
Forza:

That crowd...

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You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

Oh dear.

That does look terrible. To be fair, you will not be noticing the crowd when you're speeding down the track, though.

EDIT: I also noticed now, the girl with the blue buttoned shirt is palette swapped to a red shirt further down the crowd. Mortal Kombat 1 indeed.

Another case solved by the Xbone Detective! :)
 

ICPEE

Member
Wow forza... what happen.. oh yeah its a launch games.

Not with 2D crowds. 8GB Ram and a modern GPU. I would have accepted low poly 3d models but 2D crowds is from the PS2 era. I sincerely hope both Sony and MS's studios eradicate this eyesore. Its going to ruin the next gen feel and immersion of all next gen games.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Forza is the worst for me. That was presented as gameplay. It is not close. Ea said it was in engine or whatever bullshit sports sports sports sports goon Andrew wilson said.
 
Forza is the worst for me. That was presented as gameplay. It is not close. Ea said it was in engine or whatever bullshit sports sports sports sports goon Andrew wilson said.

This is straight up misleading and they should be punished for it. Though it is not like bullshots are much less misleading anyways.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
From what it looks to me... they took all the model and shading resources of the crowd in forza 5 and allocated it elsewhere.

Probably because most people wont be paying attention to the crowd when going so fast. Looks bad in stills, probably looks ok in motion

Rest of game looks better sans the lighting... which I'm not sure if its a downgrade in quality or a reduction in contrast yet
 

jet1911

Member
Killzone has a lot less mist and fifa looks like a turd.

-yes please (antitrop)! And don't say such things, jet1911 :( next-gen would be for nothing.


edit- it's not mist, it's something to do with the shadowing.

The concept of the game still look insanely cool but I really expect the graphics to have taken a hit. But hey, fingers crossed! :p
 

Ricky_R

Member
Killzone hold its own and then some.

I've been playing it on a 55 inch LCD from 6-8 feet away and it's shocking how good it looks most of the time. The IQ is amazing and very consistent. The game also runs great.

I honestly didn't expect this game, or any other for that matter, to look as good as it does. I really can't wait for what the PS4 will be able to do from 2014 and on.
 

Eusis

Member
EA bullshots the thread. They aren't even ashamed anymore.
They probably abandoned that shame sometime in the late 90s. I recall the Madden PS2 screens being bullshots and I know there was an article in PC Gamer or Next Gen ripping on companies for using bullshots before then. None of them seem to give a fuck, even Square Enix would send out screens of PS2 games at resolutions that'd you'd need a 4K TV for.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Why are people surprised that EA lied to us? They've done this two generations now.

I don't think surprised is the right word. Hell, I find it amusing since the original Ignite trailers didn't even look all that impressive in the first place.
 
Ubisoft games get dumbed down the worst

Prepare for disappointment
I've been trying to prepare myself for months now. It'll still hurt.

Forza is the worst for me. That was presented as gameplay. It is not close. Ea said it was in engine or whatever bullshit sports sports sports sports goon Andrew wilson said.
On a PC?

The one that bugs me most is actually the nerf of sparks and particles in the Warframe PS4 gameplay footage from e3. Such beautiful sparks. Start at 1:40 or so.
 

FranXico

Member
Killzone hold its own and then some.

I've been playing it on a 55 inch LCD from 6-8 feet away and it's shocking how good it looks most of the time. The IQ is amazing and very consistent. The game also runs great.

I honestly didn't expect this game, or any other for that matter, to look as good as it does. I really can't wait for what the PS4 will be able to do from 2014 and on.

Killzone was the closest to the target. The only noticeable downgrade were the environment reflections on the skyscrapper on the left. Props to Guerrilla, they know their shit.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
I'm still holding out hope for The Division. It's not a Ubi Montreal game so I think the game has a chance.
 

StevieP

Banned
Killzone was the closest to the target. The only noticeable downgrade were the environment reflections on the skyscrapper on the left. Props to Guerrilla, they know their shit.

They got fairly close to their super sampled PC reveal, obviously minus some IQ (though they've improved some of the modelling work as well), so well done for putting some effort into it by guerrilla

I'm still holding out hope for The Division. It's not a Ubi Montreal game so I think the game has a chance.

I would stop holding out hope if I were you. Unless you think they can match footage rendered on a high end PC on consoles

How can it be rushed, when it was already made & in playable form months ago?

It was playable on hardware that was more powerful than the Xbox one and had to be adapted. The tools on that particular console apparently still aren't quite there, so things should improve as time goes on
 

Madness

Member
Am I the only one who thought Killzone also looks a little downgraded? Look at that building on the left in the first pic and then the second. Why did a lot of games end up worse this?
 

StevieP

Banned
Massive will deliver the goods. Wait and see, playboys.

Uh... Well good for you for holding out hope, but the division won't look like it did on console during its reveal

Am I the only one who thought Killzone also looks a little downgraded? Look at that building on the left in the first pic and then the second.

Why did a lot of games end up worse? I remember when they first showed gameplay of Gears of War and concept designs, the final game was WAY better than what they showed previously.

A lot of games are shown to you running on high end pcs before being adapted to lower specced consoles, unfortunately. Even gears was notorious for the bull shot type stuff for the same reason. The IQ was much higher in its reveal as well
 

Raist

Banned
WHAT THE FUCK, I just noticed that Forza picture. I will give 1000 cool points to the GAFFer that photoshops Yoshida, Tretton, Cerny, Banderas, and a Macaw in that crowd.

OK, I cheated a bit and merged/recycled stuff that was already made by me and others in the DF thread, but there you go.

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Giv pointz nao plz.
 

antitrop

Member
Am I the only one who thought Killzone also looks a little downgraded? Look at that building on the left in the first pic and then the second. Why did a lot of games end up worse this?

Since you brought up Gears of War before editing, let's remember those glorious bullshots.

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Killzone and Driveclub improved, but with those other games looking worse, whoever broke that controversial rumor about games looking worse from E3 ended up right.
 
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