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[chubigans]

Looks fine to me honestly.

bwahahah I'm getting Being John Malchovich flashbacks.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Forza looks way downgraded to me

Will you be able to close the door!?

If The Division ends up looking just like that on the PS4 I'll be surprised and extremely happy

 

[alterno69]

Forza looks downgraded cause the lightingin the reveal video was more advanced, now it's all prebaked. There's not many things i hate more than that constant ugly shadow below cars in racing games. It's so last gen.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Killzone and ryse are legit.

 

[Shmuely Bully]

Killzone and ryse are legit.

Killzone is at least. Ryse is a lot different, although it's tough for me to say if it's better or worse.

 

[Demon Ice]

PS4 games will be looking as good as or better than their reveals because the reveals were done on devkits that had weaker hardware than the final PS4.

Microsoft did the opposite. All the Microsoft reveals are done on hardware that is more powerful than the final XB1 hardware. Ryse is the closest XB1 to match its reveal but even Crytek had to downgrade it a little.

 

[sith ewok]

If the X1 and PS4 could hit the level of that Division footage, I would be completely happy with this gen.

(Of course, I think Knack, Killzone, Ryse and Dead Rising all look gorgeous, so I guess I'm alright for now. )

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

Looks like Forza and Fifa had the largest downgrades, for the shadows and grass, respectively.

 

[WarMacheen]

wrong thread lol

 

[Lynn616]

So it sounds like:
Xbox One games were downgraded after E3. Hmm.... Nostradamus all up in this bitch.

Bullshit. Ryse looks the same or better. Dead Rising looks the same but now has better frame rate.

 

[Ol No Bones]

If the X1 and PS4 could hit the level of that Division footage, I would be completely happy with this gen.

(Of course, I think Knack, Killzone, Ryse and Dead Rising all look gorgeous, so I guess I'm alright for now. )

Yes except dead rising. Really? I pre ordered the game cause it looks so fun but damn it looks very dated.

 

[not_so_special]

Bullshit. Ryse looks the same or better. Dead Rising looks the same but now has better frame rate.

18 fps is better framerate?

 

[Ol No Bones]

Killzone is at least. Ryse is a lot different, although it's tough for me to say if it's better or worse.

Well they changed the look but it doesn't look like a downgrade.

 

[Ol No Bones]

18 fps is better framerate?

I wouldn't blame the hardware for dead rising. The others didn't perform well either.

 

[Schrade]

Looks fine to me honestly.

Bahahaha! You got me. Made me bust up laughing at work.

Bullshit. Ryse looks the same or better. Dead Rising looks the same but now has better frame rate.

Going by the pictures posted in this thread it got a severe downgrade.

We need better source material, though.

 

[weekend_warrior]

I haven't played Forza 5 yet, does the final game look anything like this?

 

[Kaako]

That Forza crowd is godlike lol.
+1 for cardboard crowd DLC.

 

[NBtoaster]

This is because Forza does not use dynamic lighting. It uses pre-baked static lighting.

Static lighting still gives you well defined shadows and environments receiving light appropriately. The lighting there just looks wrong with the brightly lit tires and the dark flat road and the smudge of the building shadow.

 

[Septimus Prime]

OK, I cheated a bit and merged/recycled stuff that was already made by me and others in the DF thread, but there you go.

Giv pointz nao plz.

I can respect Sub-Zero trying to give Johnny Cage a lift so he can see the race better from the back row, but I think his methods are a little misguided.

 

[LCfiner]

Bullshit. Ryse looks the same or better. Dead Rising looks the same but now has better frame rate.

dead rising was totally unshippable at E3 - it had nowhere to go but up. And it still has framerate issues.

The forza crowds and lighting are really sad. Maybe they’ll be able to create something closer to their original vision for the next one but Forza 5 is clearly compromised and not nearly as impressive as the reveal.

 

[SRTtoZ]

I'm surprised how much Forza was downgraded.

 

[USC-fan]

In CBoat we trust. Big downgrades in 2 of the biggest games on xbone.

 

[not_so_special]

I haven't played Forza 5 yet, does the final game look anything like this?

no..its the usual turn10 bullshit all the fanboys swallow and defend on forums

 

[Raist]

I haven't played Forza 5 yet, does the final game look anything like this?

Haha.

 

[ArchedThunder]

I haven't played Forza 5 yet, does the final game look anything like this?

Not even close.

 

[Kaako]

I'm surprised how much Forza was downgraded.

Launch game; 1080p/60fps target. Compromises had to be made.

 

[Wishmaster92]

PS4 games will be looking as good as or better than their reveals because the reveals were done on devkits that had weaker hardware than the final PS4.

Microsoft did the opposite. All the Microsoft reveals are done on hardware that is more powerful than the final XB1 hardware. Ryse is the closest XB1 to match its reveal but even Crytek had to downgrade it a little.

Ryse is very close i agree, it seems they re allocated things to different parts of the level, and added better effects like here:

Motion blur, and wet surfaces are much much better in the newer build. Really, nobody can say that the e3 build looks better lol.

 

[Lynn616]

18 fps is better framerate?

Might want to read the DR3 thread. The framerate was fixed.

 

[Jarmel]

If The Division ends up looking just like that on the PS4 I'll be surprised and extremely happy

If it even looks close to that on the PC, I'll be impressed.

 

[nib95]

Might want to read the DR3 thread. The framerate was fixed.

Did Digital Foundry re do their test with the patched build, or are you going off some of the reviews?

 

[thuway]

OK, I cheated a bit and merged/recycled stuff that was already made by me and others in the DF thread, but there you go.

Giv pointz nao plz.

HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHA
:'( Tears. You earn all the points.

 

[milsorgen]

Forza:

That crowd...

http://i.imgur.com/PVp0oTL.jpg

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

Lol, I knew that crowd looked familiar!

 

[TheBear]

This is amazing. Banderas and the bald guy is killing me. POTY

 

[EightBitNate]

Launch game; 1080p/60fps target. Compromises had to be made.

Then why show it off like that in the first place?

 

[RawNuts]

Then why show it off like that in the first place?

Because it was where dreams were driven.

 

[JCizzle]

Madden looks like crap.

Seriously. That screenshot looks like PS2 quality.

 

[Raist]

HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHA
:'( Tears. You earn all the points.

Mission accomplished.

 

[Guymelef]

I haven't played Forza 5 yet, does the final game look anything like this?

Definitely Turn 10 and i don't share the concept of "in game".

 

[RoboPlato]

I'm impressed at how little bullshit came out of Sony this time around. The final game of Killzone blows away the E3 build.

 

[BasketCasket]

Will you be able to close the door!?

I bet half the doors in the game are going to be ajar; just because of that one action being implemented.

 

[ypo]

Even though the Ryse gameplay comparison shots are pretty useless since it's just showing the sky and few things but the details on the mountain are completely gone in the retail version plus the mountain itself is alot lower poly.

 

[Ramirez]

Madden feels like a bait and switch, the one game I've played, it was literally a higher res version of current gen. But the real slap in the face was the background buildings behind the stadium still being untextured ps2 level quality garbage.

 

[Zinthar]

I would so love for this to have been PS4-spec gameplay.

Because of the fact that they didn't specify, it was probably running on some beastly PC rig that could overpower any optimization issues.

 

[Zinthar]

Bullshit. Ryse looks the same or better. Dead Rising looks the same but now has better frame rate.

Better frame rate? Are you sure you the E3 footage you saw wasn't just a screenshot?

 

[To Far Away Times]

Killzone lost the next gen lighting. Could be the picture source though.

 

[japtor]

Because it was where dreams were driven.

But, but...what about the power of the cloud?!

 

[ArchedThunder]

Killzone lost the next gen lighting. Could be the picture source though.

It is the picture, the lighting in the game looks MUCH better than that picture.
EDIT:I just booted up that part of the game and it looks really good in motion, but damn does it not translate to a picture very well.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZkFx08CEAAxoRn.jpg:orig
which is funny really because the lighting translates to pictures really well in other parts of the game.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Not only will that door not close when Ubisoft reveals the demo near the game's launch, you'll clip right through it. No one lies about graphics like Ubi.

I hope Ubisoft is using the delay to get the game up to a level where it should be. They playfully took a jab at GTA V, but seemed to make the right decision and work on the game some more because of whatever shortcoming they perceived in comparison to what Rockstar had reveal.

OK, I cheated a bit and merged/recycled stuff that was already made by me and others in the DF thread, but there you go.

Giv pointz nao plz.

LOL

 

[Mackins]

I think Ryse actually looks much worse, I know it's a little too early to judge with no good sources at the minute though.

Also does any one think Ryse looks really jerky, animation wise, off watching the footage or is it just me?

 

[jet1911]

Then why show it off like that in the first place?

Same could be said for a lot of games. You show what you can show when you need to show it. It's as simple as that.