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Wii U US November Sales Estimated at 149K by Pachter

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JoeM86

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Come on guys. Pachter has been unbelievably wrong before, as seen with September this year.

At least wait for actual numbers before doomsaying and complaining.
 
It's over. Reggie's demeanor during the VGX interview made it very clear that this was coming. I could just tell the big "Mario will save us" plan didn't work here, especially if it didn't work in Japan (or Europe).

The WiiU's price alone (and PS4/XB1 shortages) should have at least guaranteed 300k+ in November sales.
 

MickeyPhree

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Nintendo has not other options, either kill it and get on the train with the X1 and PS4(unlikely to happen)

Or do a Pokemon MMO, this can save the Wii U.
A Pokemon MMO will save the Wii u and probably make it outsell the PS4/X1.
But it will also need a Starfox game like a real sequel to Starfox 64 using the Wii U's maximum power.

Those games and Wii u is saved, if not then it's dead.

A Pokemon mmo is not going to cause the wii u to outsell the ps4 or Xbox one. Come on.
 
Is it fair to say that the US has been the WIiU's strongest market, too?
It's over. Reggie's demeanor during the VGX interview made it very clear that this was coming. I could just tell the big "Mario will save us" plan didn't work here, especially if it didn't work in Japan (or Europe).

The WiiU's price alone (and PS4/XB1 shortages) should have at least guaranteed 300k+ in November sales.
My best estimate was just under 400k based on Mario which we know has under performed [elsewhere].
 

cyberheater

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A whole years start and bloody wasted by Nintendo. How long folks. How long if this continues until Nintendo pulls the plug?

Not surprised, first party alone can save this console.

You're delusional.
 
Ugh, this sucks if true. As others have said, I really hope X, the next Zelda and SMTxFE make it out before Nintendo if/before they pull the plug on the Wii U.
 

Oddduck

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150k in one month isnt great by any means but its still selling consoles... nintendo prob wants something like 500k tho right?

But it's November.

You can sell 150k in February or March or April.

You don't sell 150k in November. November and December are suppose to be the biggest selling months for hardware.
 

kick51

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Come on guys. Pachter has been unbelievably wrong before, as seen with September this year.

At least wait for actual numbers before doomsaying and complaining.


it's a test of nintendo fans' wills. will they come into the thread and dedicate a whole day to defending nintendo from a Pachter prediction or will they wait for NPD
 
seriously amazing how many replies seem to be taking this as fact. even if it were 90% likely, just fricken wait for the actual number. =/

Come on guys. Pachter has been unbelievably wrong before, as seen with September this year.

At least wait for actual numbers before doomsaying and complaining.


We know.

For a thought exercise, double the prediction and then find Aquamarine's post of historical November sales and see where it ranks.

Pachter could be off by 100% and Wii U would still be one of the worst selling systems of the last 15-20 years.
 

kurbaan

Banned
150k would mean it was almost TRIPLED by the GC in a similar November post-launch period. That's sub-Dreamcast numbers.

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WII U is truly the new deamcast except with worse games.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
That is unbelievably bad. And I mean that. I'm struggling to believe it could possibly have done that poorly. Wow.

Damn shame if true. That software library is really becoming something special.
 

Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
You guys do know...

These aren't real numbers...
and Pachter usually fails with them... in fact some of you posting it do say that in other threads with some games or Sony/Msoft console numbers but for Nintendo its somehow a fact.
 

Makai

Member
What? That site that Pachter recommends as an accurate source for sales data shows much larger sales than that.
 
I bought a WiiU in November as did 2 other of my 20+ year gaming friends. None of us bought a XB1/PS4 and none of us are planning on doing so anytime soon. Additionally, over the weekend I bought some more goodies for it at Toys R Us. While there, I saw 2 XB1 sell, and 5 WiiUs. No PS4s, out of stock.

I asked the clerk if that was odd and he flat out told me that since Thanksgiving they are selling like 15 WiiUs a week, which is outdone the XB1/PS4. I was like o_O, but he just said that the parents are coming out of the woodwork and that everyone is buying 3D world with it.

*shrug*.. I dont care either way really. But I am curious to see how the WiiU does number wise for both November and December.
 

sphagnum

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I have no idea what Nintendo's plans for the console would be at this point if it really sells this bad. I mean, they can't just drop it without destroying the loyalty of the customers who are left, and it's going to take at least 2 years for them to build a new console that can compete with the PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe support it through 2014 and toss in a bunch of HD up-ports to give it a semblance of titles in 2015 until they can get a new console out that year?

What a disaster. Such a great console too.
 

JoeM86

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it's a test of nintendo fans' wills. will they come into the thread and dedicate a whole day to defending nintendo from a Pachter prediction or will they wait for NPD

Well when people are taking this prediction as fact, and reacting accordingly, some sense needs to be slapped into them
 

Wallach

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I'd be shocked if it turned out to be that bad. Disastrous if they have a holiday performance like that in the launch window of these other two consoles.
 

Madao

Member
Nintendo has not other options, either kill it and get on the train with the X1 and PS4(unlikely to happen)

Or do a Pokemon MMO, this can save the Wii U.
A Pokemon MMO will save the Wii u and probably make it outsell the PS4/X1.
But it will also need a Starfox game like a real sequel to Starfox 64 using the Wii U's maximum power.

Those games and Wii u is saved, if not then it's dead.

a Pokemon MMO won't do shit.

both Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy tried the MMO route and those installments sold like 10% of what a regular installment sold. 10% of the current mainline pokemon games is nothing to write home about.
an MMO would only serve to make money with low sales since those games can turn big profits with very low sales numbers.
 

NotLiquid

Member
I'm really not holding much hope for the actual numbers but this sounds too low even for Wii U. Pachter's been wrong before so I'll just wait for the NPD.
 

Xellos

Member
Time for Nintendo to move on if 150k is accurate. No sense dragging this out when the sales are that poor. Release the previously announced 2014 games, start developing new hardware immediately, and move all major unannounced games (maybe a TP-style dual release for Zelda) to the next console.
 
A Pokemon mmo is not going to cause the wii u to outsell the ps4 or Xbox one. Come on.

Yeah it will, Pokemon carried Nintendo on its back since it came out.
A Pokemon MMO full fleshed will definitely save it, people been asking for this, wanted this.
With the age we are in today, a MMO of this sort would be soo immersive in real life its crazy. It will hit our society harder than WoW has hit it.

Pokemon MMO will save the Wii U, however it would be stupid to use it on a console like this.
 

tuffy

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Ugh, this sucks if true. As others have said, I really hope X, the next Zelda and SMTxFE make it out before Nintendo if/before they pull the plug on the Wii U.
The primary reason the Wii U exists is as a platform for Nintendo's 1st party titles. They're not going to pull the plug on its production before games in development are released.
 
As I posted in the other thread:

Pachter's Accuracy in 2013

Example:
January 2013 - NPD Reporting Month
50. - Pachter's ranking (out of all the GAF predictions)
61. - Total amount of GAF predictions
249,000 - Amount of sales off of the real NPD sales

January 2013: 50./61. Pachter - 249,000
February 2013: 64./72. Pachter - 270,000
March 2013: 46./79. Pachter - 139,500
April 2013: 52./65. Pachter
May 2013: 22./49. Pachter - 32,699
June 2013: 45./61. Pachter - 104,000
July: 43./57. Pachter - 49,000
August: 6./50. Pachter
September: 5./62. Pachter - 159,000
October: 51./51. Pachter - 313,000

The average GAFfer makes better predictions than Pachter.
 
a Pokemon MMO won't do shit.

both Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy tried the MMO route and those installments sold like 10% of what a regular installment sold. 10% of the current mainline pokemon games is nothing to write home about.
an MMO would only serve to make money with low sales since those games can turn big profits with very low sales numbers.

Pokemon>>>>both Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, the game itself its a offline MMO integrate it as a MMO and=sales and sales and sales! You could have gym leaders by states, countries(they all fight for that spot have it for a number of years), and people will try to fight to gain gym badges, and then you have pokemon leagues for regions, and a World Pokemon LEAGUE, and you have enough pokemon as of now for the start up.
oh my god!
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Time for Nintendo to move on if 150k is accurate. No sense dragging this out when the sales are that poor. Release the previously announced 2014 games, start developing new hardware immediately, and move all major unannounced games (maybe a TP-style dual release for Zelda) to the next console.

Yeah, that worked real well for Sega, too.
 

Boss Man

Member
The Wii U really needs some amazing software now that gets everybody talking about their console.
Let's hope Nintendo still got something up their sleeves.
:/
Cranky Kong!

I really hope they do, but Nintendo has become rather predictable and boring lately. I'd love to see a new Starfox or a proper console Pokemon RPG.
 
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