Crimson_Gold
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Wii U US November Sales Estimated at 149K by Pachter
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But it'll make me happy.
Yeah, reading this thread, and the replys to my my post...Im understanding better now.
I guess we get numbers Thursday, so might as well wait til then before over reacting.
Nintendo needs a Direct of epic proportions that promises the world to WiiU owners. One last ditch, we have all these games in dev, please buy it! lol
pretty done
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If true its dead and I made the right choice selling it last month. I didn't think just Mario would turn this flop around and looks like I was right, the people have spoken. Wonder if Mario will get a 3DS port in the future.
Gonzo The Great
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Even triple that would be disastrous. At this rate, it will take the Wii U 20 years to reach Iwata's sales expectations for this fiscal year. As much as I love Super Mario 3D World and Pikmin 3, there is literally nothing they can do to turn this around. And to make matters worse, they genuinely believe that releasing one game in between November and April will save the Wii U. Reggie specifically stated that Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze is the game that will help propel them through the first quarter.
If these numbers are true and XboxOne/PS4 are selling 2 million in just NA each in 2013, then it is over. Retailers are going to replace shelf space for things that are making them money. It has already happened in Europe and with it happening in NA as well, there simply are too many negatives for Nintendo to continue Wii U. They'll be losing money in absolute terms but also losing "mindshare" in a new generation of gamers. That market will be filled within 5 years on PS4/XboxOne/Mobile.
Nintendo will need to decide on whether to prepare for a new console or consider other options. Maybe they just go handheld/mobile only.
AHA-Lambda
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Firesale in january sales? =/
Opus Angelorum
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Well at least we can post some preemptive reactions. GAF will be destroyed on Thursday with Wii U and PS4/Xbox One numbers.
Phoenician_Viking
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The snow storm stopped people from going to Pokemon centers and buy the WiiU.
Exactly, even if it sold 300,000 (150% off prediction would still bring it below GC) units. It would still be one of the worst selling Consoles in history for the month of November.
Handheld-only or they release a safe console like everyone else already kinda does.
(Which would be sad since I really like all their 'gimmicky' hardware.)
MickeyPhree
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While the number may very well end up being wrong, the chances the wii u didn't sell well at all is a very real possibility.
TrAcEr_x90
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This was too cruel.....playing with my childhood emotions....
KillerTravis
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Yeah, but Gamecube was always profitable, so those numbers may be profitable for Wii U as well, which means all this doom and gloom posts are pretty stupid.
Troubleman1990
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Or a Pokemon Console RPG could do the trick..... not it wont save the Wii U, people need continuation after they are done=MMO.
A Pokemon Console RPG would have suited the Wii good, since it was so successful. The Wii U? Nope
A Pokemon Console RPG would have suited the Wii good, since it was so successful. The Wii U? Nope
Katana_Strikes
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That's more than I expected actually. But a disaster if true. Not that I'm expecting much more and heck it could be even less.
Thursday is gonna break GAF.
Thursday is gonna break GAF.
Boss Man
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It would certainly make the Wii U relevant at least.That would sell the hell out of Wii U's, the potential sales there can hardly be overstated in my opinion.
They aren't going to do it though, too much effort or something.
comedy bomb
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So who's the #1 gaffer and what have they predicted?
Rogue_Ledr
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DAMN! Seriously? I don't understand why Nintendo is struggling this bad with the console when they dominated so hard last-gen.
DUFFMCWALIN
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This is a stupid question. What has Pachter done to be worth a ban?
Smiles and Cries
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even double the sales that Pach is saying would still be aweful for a November
but honestly I am not sure what to expect for Wii U numbers this could be right on target the way the Wii U had been trending all year
Aquamarine
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Pachter predicts 700,000 for Super Mario 3D World.
Chill Penguin
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Not to pile on but 2012 was actually the 360's eighth November, and it still demolished Wii U. This year is the 360's ninth November and i'd bet it still outsold Wii U handily. Man i want to love Nintendo because they're so unique in this industry but they are making it extremely difficult. As soon as I saw the unveiling for the Wii U i knew this thing would bomb. Everything from the ambiguous unveiling, to the naming, to hardware design, to marketing, to software was horribly botched during their first year, to the point where it now seems unsalvageable. It's a shame because it seems like they're releasing quality software now...that unfortunately no one is going to buy. Let's just hope they re-release all these games on their next console.
...There's no way that's right. Like I imagine it sold that much on Black Friday alone. Pachter should really think before he opens his mouth because it probably sold at least north of 200k. I'll eat my hat if he's wrong but I'm pretty damn sure he's talking out of his ass on this one.
speculawyer
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Console death spiral.
With those kind of sales, they are not going to attract 3rd party developers . . . and without 3rd party developers, sales are going to drop, and with dropping sales, they are not going to attract 3rd party developers . . .
With those kind of sales, they are not going to attract 3rd party developers . . . and without 3rd party developers, sales are going to drop, and with dropping sales, they are not going to attract 3rd party developers . . .
"Nobody owns a PC as fast as a PS3."
GraveRobberX
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Then why aren't people buying it in droves?
If the number is anywhere below 500,000 then NINTY has failed
It's not arbitrary number, if your console had a year head start, is almost $100 less than the competition, and has heavy hitters out to in full force... YIKES!
You have to realize, Black Friday in the US is huge
Remember the Wii, it would sell fucking Truckloads in Nov + December, hell it would take Sony Family + MS to equal what NINTY was selling some months
The other option is a 3rd pillar, based off the same tech, minus the blu ray and expensive gamepad..sold for $150.
The same games could still be released for the Wii U to keep owners happy...or/and follow Sony's Vita path but instead of downporting their PS3 content to Vita..Nintendo up-port their 3DS titles to Wii U.
Starfox won't sell, a Pokemon MMO likely wouldn't sell any better than Pokemon Stadium (I'd give Capcom a call to make PokeMonster Hunter..that might help in Japan at least).
Thanks. I hope it performs well relative to the Wii U userbase.
Interficium
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I feel like this thread is causing Nintendo fans to regress into child-like states. See above.
MickeyPhree
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This has been done to death. The wii was a fad. That audience hasn't carried over to the new system. The hardcore, I hate that term, is buying either a playstation or an xbox.
KillerTravis
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That's too high... what's wrong with Pachter?
Holy craaaaaaaap man. If this is anywhere near true, then damn.
Should I just keep my Wii U as an antique for the future? Collectors item? This is a Nintendo person talking here too. Yikes.
Keep it as a games console to play amazing games like Pikmin 3 and Mario 3D World?
Rodney McKay
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this has to be trolling. there's no way anyone can seriously believe this. it sounds even more ridiculous than Pachter's predictions.
Its been a well known secret for a year now. Mario doesnt look to be turning sales around from what we can see, and there was nothing else to do so.....these numbers are probably low, but close..
Interceptor
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Making stuff up to get internet fame.
bishopcruz
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I'm dead!
KoopaTheCasual
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you miss the point. the starting number you are 2x-ing is only worth pachters reputation. so doesnt really work that way as an excersize.
It's pretty crazy to see a system cratering this early in its life. Nintendo's in a really tight spot; if they release a new system within the next two years, they risk losing whatever consumer trust they have left, but holding out on a successor until 2016-17 (barring a miracle that will turn sales around) will further cement the dead console stigma and could drive away potential buyers from their next system. I'm at a loss on how Nintendo could save face in an industry where poor reputations spreads like wildfire over the Internet, short of rolling out a successor and offering a courtesy worldwide trade-in program for the 4 or so million Wii U owners.
I have no idea, but quality doesn't equal sales, hence how Knack is outselling 3D World in the UK
Troubleman1990
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Nintendo fans?
Last Nintendo console I owned was a Snes, and I had a gameboy color.
I don't consider myself as a nintendo fan, maybe a old nintendo fan. Cuz this nintendo wit the wii not so much.
I loved the n64 though, and the GBA.
comedy bomb
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Releasing a console like everyone else does them no good without 3rd party support, and even with equal footing in system power I doubt 3rd parties would bother releasing stuff where it won't sell.
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