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[Holy Order Sol]

But it's about principles in my book.

lol principles

 

[Morfeo]

Guess I have to get this, will be my first Musou-game. Hope they are better than their reputation!

 

[Wrestlemania]

This is going to sell a lot in the west. Probably highest selling musou.

but hmmm, how many playable characters can you fit? There's Zelda, link, ganon, tingle...?

Sheik, a character from each of the other races, different Links.

 

[Seraphis Cain]

And that's exactly my point. To me, and certainly others too, this looks much more as an attempt to make TLoZ more accessible to others. Not that that's a bad thing, hell, the more the merrier. But it becomes a problem in my eyes if they ignore a large group of (almost) lifelong fans what they've been longing for.

And yes, I know it's not being developed by Nintendo and that Zelda U isn't being delayed by this whatsoever. But it's about principles in my book.

But this makes no sense. How are Nintendo ignoring a large group of lifelong fans? If this has no bearing on Zelda U, and isn't delaying it in the slightest, then what's the problem?

I hope they aren't scrapping Wii U Zelda and dumping the assets into this instead. I've never played a Dynasty Warriors so I'll reserve my judgement, but I'm not particularly excited by this announcement.

This is the silliest thing to be afraid of.

 

[Kouichi]

I think this is the best design for Link... ever.

Agreed.

It's the scarf.

 

[Frodo]

I think I am anticipating this more than the idea of a new Zelda game.

I'm not anticipating this more than the mainline Zelda, but it will be good to have something to pass the time with while we wait for it...

I'm loving the idea of a Zelda-Musou game.

 

[Jarate]

I wish the Zelda franchise was treated just as well as the Persona games. Although the Persona games get put into different genres but at least they are, you know, good.

I want a Zelda dance game!

Spoiler

Also, Persona is a spinoff of the Shin Megami Tensei series.

 

[gamergirly]

This is going to sell a lot in the west. Probably highest selling musou.

but hmmm, how many playable characters can you fit? There's Zelda, link, ganon, tingle...?

Yeah, fighting style games do sell alot in the west. Nintendo had to expand the audience while knowing that the mainline Zelda U title isn't finished....

 

[Gaz_RB]

I'm fucking in. I've always wanted to get into bigger battles as Link. Awesome.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

But this makes no sense. How are Nintendo ignoring a large group of lifelong fans? If this has no bearing on Zelda U, and isn't delaying it in the slightest, then what's the problem?

BUT PRINCIPLES

 

[Silky]

And that's exactly my point. To me, and certainly others too, this looks much more as an attempt to make TLoZ more accessible to others. Not that that's a bad thing, hell, the more the merrier. But it becomes a problem in my eyes if they ignore a large group of (almost) lifelong fans what they've been longing for.

And yes, I know it's not being developed by Nintendo and that Zelda U isn't being delayed by this whatsoever. But it's about principles in my book.

what do you mean accessible? Zelda's Zelda. Anyone can play Zelda. come on.

what 'principles' are you trying to justify. they're not ignoring fans ( hell a LOT of Zelda fans wanted a Zelda game with better combat than what the original titles put off) if that/s what you're thinking.

it's just a spinoff.

 

[bobbychalkers]

That game was so completely unremarkable in every sense of the word that I wouldn't be able to point to anything and call it great except maybe some of the CG cutscenes. The action that Team Ninja was supposed to bring was lightweight and entirely boring with a broken control scheme and dodge mechanic. We can pin that on Sakamoto too who deserves just as much blame if not more, but at the end of the day I'm completely unsympathetic to Team Ninja. Even if we forgive them for Other M it should be apparent that they are not a top developer capable of delivering on Metroid after releasing the likes of Ninja Gaiden 3.

They were working with what they were given. Sakamoto wanted simple, NES style gameplay, and they had to comply. His decisions pretty much why the game turned out like it did.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

I agree, another reason I'm so upset. Such a fantastic link design wasted on a shit tier developer.



People generally don't like wasting money on a series that's failed to improve for so long. I played a bunch of the games in the PS2 era and none of them were worth anything.

While I disagree with your opinion, maybe this is the design that's going to be used for Zelda U? That would be awesome, if true.

 

[EdibleKnife]

And that's exactly my point. To me, and certainly others too, this looks much more as an attempt to make TLoZ more accessible to others. Not that that's a bad thing, hell, the more the merrier. But it becomes a problem in my eyes if they ignore a large group of (almost) lifelong fans what they've been longing for.

And yes, I know it's not being developed by Nintendo and that Zelda U isn't being delayed by this whatsoever. But it's about principles in my book.

They aren't ruining anything. The sanctity of the Zelda series isn't being tainted by the existence of an simple off shoot game. I'm not sure what principles you believe that Ninty is betraying by allowing this to occur.

 

[Jarate]

PS2 era. I don't remember which ones. I just hate seeing good IP's like Zelda and One Piece being wasted on this.

you know they changed a lot since then right?

you know how they have evolved a shit ton since the early days

It's like judging the new mario game off of Super Mario Sunshine.

 

[Rentahamster]

What's the point of this post except trolling?

I genuinely think Musou is better than Zelda.

I can vouch that yes, he really does.

Musou is awesome. DW3XL fo life.

 

[ohlawd]

I hope they aren't scrapping Wii U Zelda and dumping the assets into this instead. I've never played a Dynasty Warriors so I'll reserve my judgement, but I'm not particularly excited by this announcement.

this topic is full of insane posts.

the most insane are the ones that think Zelda Wii U doesn't exist anymore and Hyrule Warriors replaced it.

 

[Boy Wander]

I hope they aren't scrapping Wii U Zelda and dumping the assets into this instead. I've never played a Dynasty Warriors so I'll reserve my judgement, but I'm not particularly excited by this announcement.

Iwata clearly stated in the Direct that this is NOT a mainline Zelda game. It is being developed by Koei, not the EAD Zelda team.

 

[ScriptedReality]

PS2 era. I don't remember which ones. I just hate seeing good IP's like Zelda and One Piece being wasted on this.

So you haven't played their recent games but you're confident that Zeldas being wasted with this? Based off.. Ps2?

 

[Jarate]

I hope they aren't scrapping Wii U Zelda and dumping the assets into this instead. I've never played a Dynasty Warriors so I'll reserve my judgement, but I'm not particularly excited by this announcement.

Yes, they are dumping all of their money into a game not developed by them

 

[Silky]

People generally don't like wasting money on a series that's failed to improve for so long. I played a bunch of the games in the PS2 era and none of them were worth anything.

well

maybe you should consider playing the recent releases because they're drastically different than what the PS2 games are. calling a series failing to improve when you have only played a small handful of titles doesn't really justify your claim.

I hope they aren't scrapping Wii U Zelda and dumping the assets into this instead. I've never played a Dynasty Warriors so I'll reserve my judgement, but I'm not particularly excited by this announcement.

wow lol maybe it's the zelda fans who are in panic mode instead of nintendo lol

 

[Batman]

I have no doubt that they are going to be saving the next Zelda game for the launch of their new console in two years.

 

[Zomba13]

I think this is the best design for Link... ever.

Was just about to post that this Link design is very awesome. I think the scarf makes it. It's a little touch but I love that type of scarf/cape thing on characters (Viewtiful Joe, Protoman, Wonder Red). Also cool to see Link fighting along side other characters. He's usually solo so nice to see a mass battle, even with nameless knights.

Not played a DW type game since stuff on the PS2 but this I could get into. I love Zelda so a Zelda flavoured mass battle thing seems cool. I wonder if it'll just be Link playable though. I know the working Title is Hyrule Warriors implying more than just Link but could be referring to the knights and how this is a DW style game. Would be cool if it had Shiek playable (could have a move set based on smash. Throwing needles, chain whips, hand-to-hand fighting).

 

[3bdelilah]

I don´t want to live on this planet anymore.gif

Explain why or log off.

Musou is huge in Japan.
How are you getting anything out of this game's story from a fucking alpha/work in progress video.
I'm excited for this game, as well as other Musou and Zelda fans.
Calm down.

Looking at this thread, a good number of people are excited for this. There is a dedicated audience for these kinds of games in both the West and Japan. You getting upset that this doesn't feature the traditional Zelda dungeon crawling and exploration aspects makes no sense. Its not meant to replace that. Otherwise we'd have a mainline Zelda made by Omega Force...and nobody wants that. And how is this gravitating to people who want a mature Zelda?....its a Musou game! They are over the top, unrealistic and silly as games get.

And dude......rape? Really? C'mon son...its videogames.

I ain't mad, I mean just like I said before, as long as Zelda U and all other canon Zelda aren't going to be affected by this (which is the case), I couldn't care less. It's just it doesn't make much sense to me yet, besides the fact that the Dynasty games are obviously very popular in Japan. But is that reason enough?

 

[Jarate]

Explain why or log off.





I ain't mad, I mean just like I said before, as long as Zelda U and all other canon Zelda aren't going to be affected by this (which is the case), I couldn't care less. It's just I don't understand the reason yet, besides the fact that the Dynasty games are obviously very popular in Japan.

maybe because nintendo, I don't know, wants to make money

i know it's crazy to understand this, but hey, here's a little tidbit of information

Corporations try to make money

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

LOL at people thinking Zelda is too big an IP for Koei to deal with. Let me know when Zelda gets a monument that rivals this.

Gundam I think is by far the biggest IP Musou has gotten itself involved in. The Zelda IP is quite weak in Japan on consoles.

 

[Toxi]

It's weird that so many people complain about Musou being unchanging yet are quick to defend the Pokemon series (and this is coming from someone who dislikes Musou and loves Pokemon).

 

[Silky]

It's weird that so many people complain about Musou being unchanging yet are quick to defend the Pokemon series (and this is coming from someone who dislikes Musou and loves Pokemon).

but THE METAGAME SO DEEP WOW

 

[Rentahamster]

I couldn't care less. It's just I don't understand the reason yet, besides the fact that the Dynasty games are obviously very popular in Japan.

I think that means you do understand the reason.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Gundam I think is by far the biggest IP Musou has gotten itself involved in. The Zelda IP is quite weak in Japan on consoles.

One Piece is also a pretty big fucking deal in Japan as well.

 

[fredrancour]

Well I guess I'll be buying my first musou game.

 

[forrest]

This is the silliest thing to be afraid of.

this topic is full of insane posts.

the most insane are the ones that think Zelda Wii U doesn't exist anymore and Hyrule Warriors replaced it.

Iwata clearly stated in the Direct that this is NOT a mainline Zelda game. It is being developed by Koei, not the EAD Zelda team.

Sorry just woke up and haven't had a chance to see the Direct yet. Just being reactionary and all that to this thread as it was at the top of the forums as I hopped on. It's reaching sure, but insane, nah not really.

 

[Silky]

Gundam I think is by far the biggest IP Musou has gotten itself involved in. The Zelda IP is quite weak in Japan on consoles.

Well on a tier scale
1) Gundam
2) One Piece
3) Hokuto

so far at least

O ain't mad, I mean just like I said before, as long as Zelda U and all other canon Zelda aren't going to be affected by this (which is the case), I couldn't care less. It's just it doesn't make much sense to me yet, besides the fact that the Dynasty games are obviously very popular in Japan. But is that reason enough?

Because despite all beliefs Tecmo and Nintendo actually have a pretty good relationship and Nintendo doesn't mind letting them use Assets. Warriors Orochi Wii-U, DOA Dimensions 3D, and Other M [VOMITS UNCONTROLLABLY] come to mind.

 

[ILoveBish]

Wii U will have 2 Zelda games now! Iwata sure knows how to run things.

 

[Village]

I want a Zelda dance game!

Spoiler

Also, Persona is a spinoff of the Shin Megami Tensei series.

Not anymore really.

That is some post NSYC Justin Timberlake shit.

That has completely overtaken the OG series.

 

[inner-G]

I kind of hope this sells better than the comparable 'real' Zeldas. Nintendo needs a wake-up.

 

[3bdelilah]

lol principles

principles lol
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But this makes no sense. How are Nintendo ignoring a large group of lifelong fans? If this has no bearing on Zelda U, and isn't delaying it in the slightest, then what's the problem?

what do you mean accessible? Zelda's Zelda. Anyone can play Zelda. come on.

what 'principles' are you trying to justify. they're not ignoring fans ( hell a LOT of Zelda fans wanted a Zelda game with better combat than what the original titles put off) if that/s what you're thinking.

it's just a spinoff.

They aren't ruining anything. The sanctity of the Zelda series isn't being tainted by the existence of an simple off shoot game. I'm not sure what principles you believe that Ninty is betraying by allowing this to occur.

It just doesn't make sense personally, nothing more. It feels cheap to me. Maybe it makes more sense to you guys. Maybe a night's sleep will change my mind.

 

[Orpheus Telos]

DAY. FUCKING. ONE.

This game is gonna be fucking amazing. It's ridiculous how hyped I am for this right now. Thank you for this Nintendo and Koei.

 

[Valnen]

So you haven't played their recent games but you're confident that Zeldas being wasted with this? Based off.. Ps2?

Considering they had plenty of chances to prove themselves as a developer and failed during the PS2 era, my skepticism isn't exactly unwarranted.

 

[Fandangox]

I was being saracstic, people who say Dynasty Warriors is repetitive are the same people that love Pokemon.

What does this even means.

 

[timetokill]

I kind of hope this sells better than the comparable 'real' Zeldas. Nintendo needs a wake-up.

Uh... what kind of wake-up would that be?

 

[Floex]

I can't get over how terrible the graphics are, it almost looks fan made.

 

[CountAntonius]

can we get a Star wars version?

 

[Pinko Marx]

Gimmie Ganondorf as a playable character and I'm in there.

 

[Jarate]

What does this even means.

Pokemon is a repetitive game series that has been rehashed tons of times

but everyone loves pokemon!

 

[Hoo-doo]

Was the Gundam Musou game any good though?

I don't think IP size matters when the games are still the same junk that Koei has made for over a decade.
I don't see how the Zelda IP suddenly changes this.

 

[arit]

But it becomes a problem in my eyes if they ignore a large group of (almost) lifelong fans what they've been longing for.

But they have been doing this for over two decades and we still haven't gotten a ALTTP successor on a stationary console. I'll gladly take a Zelda Musou over the past twenty years of tries.

 

[Kevtones]

Love it.

 

[Floex]

Was the Gundam Musou game any good though?

I don't think IP size matters when the games are still the same junk that Koei has made for over a decade.
I don't see how the Zelda IP suddenly changes this.

It magically does for some people.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Eh I don't get the hate.

DW games are all about the license, if you like it then it can be really fun, and if not then it will get boring.

They've made steps and improved the franchise over time, and Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 was a really good game so I can't wait to get this.

Also Skyward Sword link, with a more Twilight Art style combo'd with a scarf and shoulder armor? Fucking amazing. Day one for that and the music alone.