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Xbox One will provide live NFL games at a blazing 60fps

statham

statham

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Microsoft has announced it is spicing up the live football coverage available through its Xbox One NFL Network app by offering something that current cable and satellite boxes simply can’t: sports delivered at 60 frames per second. Thanks to a new partnership with the online streaming specialists at Neulion, Microsoft will be able to increase the frame rate of its live football app content to up to double the frame rate of broadcast TV.
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According to CED Magazine, Neulion has struck a multi-year deal with Microsoft to deliver 24/7 live sports programming, on demand coverage, and a host of live stats updates, such as those necessary for the app’s Fantasy Football monitoring system.
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the streams will be provided at seven different tiers, ranging from the top stream of 720p HD resolution at 60fps (bout 6 Mbps), to below SD resolution at 30fps (about 600 kbps). The frame rate and pixel resolution will depend upon a viewer’s bandwidth and network conditions. No word was given as to whether the app will be scaled up to full 1080p HD resolution, but the faster frame rate could make it worth sacrificing a few pixels. According to CED, sports networks, including ESPN, have said time and again that frame rate trumps resolution if given a choice between one or the other.
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more here
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/microsoft-announces-xbox-one-will-provide-nfl-games-60fps/
sack if old.
 
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shandy706

Member
Sweet

Sounds good to me

I bet a junior will be the first waste to say something about resolution and framerate in a Live sports thread.
 
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amardilo

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That doesn't seem too clear to me, are they actually recording/broadcasting the games in 60 frames per second and then showing that (at 60 fps) or just recording it in 30fps and doubling the frames?
 
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Deleted member 47027

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That's really cool. I don't enjoy 60fps video for anything except sports, that's pretty wicked.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Doombacon said:
"Blazing" is not a word I would use to describe standard frame rate.
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I was unaware that 60fps was the standard frame rate for live TV.

This actually could be very nice as it can be somewhat difficult during quicker plays to tell exactly where the ball has gone. I would think the applicability would be better for Hockey than Football.
 
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Readingaid

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Lovely idea, in the UK where Football is king the rights for the Premier League got for £3billion and thats for split coverage with BTSport and does not include 3pm kick off of which there are a hell of a lot. Now I wonder how much it would cost to then allow te same service in the UK for a much bigger sport.
 
Pagusas

Pagusas

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so will the Xbox One have all the NFL games like sunday ticket? Is this just for certain games? How much will the subscription be to watch this?
 
Allforce

Allforce

Member
So is this just for their NFL app for recaps and highlights or are they rolling out a Sunday Ticket subscription that will offer games live at 60FPS?
 
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TechnicPuppet

Nothing! I said nothing!
UK please. I've managed to get the NFL app installed but I it doesn't use gamepass to give me everything.

I really wish it did cause it's lovely and would be even better at 60fps.
 
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Bsigg12

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If this were to cover all NFL games, and I could pick out local NHL and MLB games, I would cancel my cable subscription.

Edit: didn't mean to quote.
 
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CypherSignal

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I'm far from a sports enthusiast, so I'm a bit confused about this: I thought that all major, live, sports broadcasts were ALREADY broadcasting in 1080i 60fps signal. Is real, proper, 60fps broadcast really a new thing?
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Pagusas said:
so will the Xbox One have all the NFL games like sunday ticket? Is this just for certain games? How much will the subscription be to watch this?
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Right now the app covers red zone if you have a cable subscription to redzone.

Who knows if this means 2014 is going to have more in store or not.
 
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RulkezX

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Doesn't changing the FPS of tv stuff make it look weird ( like the Hobbit ?)

I take it this is part of some 3rd party sub ?
 
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Bsigg12

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CypherSignal said:
I'm far from a sports enthusiast, so I'm a bit confused about this: I thought that all major, live, sports broadcasts were ALREADY broadcasting in 1080i 60fps signal. Is real, proper, 60fps broadcast really a new thing?
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Only 1080i (lol)/720p. Nothing is broadcast in 60fps except ESPN's 3D channel I believe.
 
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nib95

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60fps and 48fps video in a non-gaming environment just looks a bit strange to me. Like it's running in a very subtle fast forward. Prefer the smoothness that normal 24fps or 30fps brings.

But it's a nice feature either way.
 
EL CUCO

EL CUCO

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GHG said:
Will wait for the digital foundry review.
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With extra crushed blacks
 
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newsguy

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This sounds very cool. Considering Fox and espn broadcast at 720p anyway, who cares if it's 720p. 60fps would be a welcome addition to football because of game speed and how fast the cameras pan to catch the action.
 
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shandy706

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CypherSignal said:
I'm far from a sports enthusiast, so I'm a bit confused about this: I thought that all major, live, sports broadcasts were ALREADY broadcasting in 1080i 60fps signal. Is real, proper, 60fps broadcast really a new thing?
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This is from Digital Media Services. The broadcasts depend on the company producing the game. No set standard right now.

NFL football in HD. Like most young-to-middle-aged American males, I love NFL football. And it has to be in HD. On a big screen. With big sound. But not all HD NFL is created equal. Most of you are aware of the two high definition television broadcast formats – 720p and 1080i. Read more about the differences between the two formats in the Digital Media Services January 2009 Newsletter. ESPN and Fox broadcast in 720p. NBC, CBS and NFL Network broadcast in 1080i. Is one format better than the other for football? You bet your jockstrap one is, and it’s the 720p format! I’ll tell you why.

The 720p format delivers viewers sixty 1280 x 720 progressive video frames per second. The 1080i format delivers viewers 1920 x 1080 interlaced video frames 30 times per second. While a 1280 x 720 image has less resolution than a 1920 x 1080 image frame, the other two broadcast format factors – scanning method and frame rate – give 720p an advantage when it comes to sports. The progressive scanning method handles fast motion imagery much better as the images doesn’t suffer from artifacts that appear as jittery motion, jagged lines or blurry edges as interlaced scanning formats do. Also, most of us have 720p or 1080p televisions so the progressive broadcast doesn’t have to be de-interlaced to show on our screens as 1080i broadcasts do; the de-interlacing can create a loss of detail, among other problems. The faster frame rate (60 fps vs. 30 fps) allows fast moving objects or scenes of a fast moving camera following the action appear clearer on our screens and deliver smoother, less stuttery motion. The faster frame rate also allows the digital encoders compressing the broadcast into an MPEG-2 video stream better manage the motion because there are less changes from frame-to-frame. What these technical details really mean is that the 720p format provides for a more efficient use of the limited bandwidth available to each broadcast network and therefore provides a better picture when it comes to sports.
 
SEGAvangelist

SEGAvangelist

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nib95 said:
60fps and 48fps video in a non-gaming environment just looks a bit strange to me. Like it's running in a very subtle fast forward. Prefer the smoothness that normal 24fps or 30fps brings.

But it's a nice feature either way.
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If this were a TV show or movie I'd agree, but 60fps can only help sporting events. The quick movement should be easier to follow.
 
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Pociask

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amardilo said:
That doesn't seem too clear to me, are they actually recording/broadcasting the games in 60 frames per second and then showing that (at 60 fps) or just recording it in 30fps and doubling the frames?
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Yeah, I'd like some more clarity on this. Will the XBone be using a different source for its signal that the one distributed to the broadcasters? Also, the article at one point mentions broadcast, and then at another point compares the XBone service to satellite/cable. Is that different than what is done OTA?
 
Bumblebeetuna

Bumblebeetuna

Gold Member
If it starts with the Super Bowl then fuck yes buying an Xbone immediately.

edit, well since they only stream NFL RZ I doubt it would cover the Super Bowl :(
 
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