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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps
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boredandlazy
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But in this past console generation, 720p was seen as standard rather than as a compromise.
They have also reworked the lighting and the effects (blood, mud,etc).
Messofanego
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Uh...WHAT?! I'm laughing my ass over here, she got so derped!
720p is a pretty high resolution for PS360 for AAA titles.
It's the eyes, I think.
Physics on Lara's accessories, low res textures removed, all textures 2k+, higher world geometry in some areas, increase distance to lod, increased draw distance, more foliage and assets added to levels, weather system, subsurface scattering skin, drip texture, rewrites to rendering, and they ripped out the old MP middleware and redid it.
boredandlazy
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They've also apparently added more physics in the environment, and Lara's equipment(bow, arrows in the quiver, her climbing axe thingo) actually have physics applied so they sway correctly when she moves etc.
edit: beaten.
Like I said, they totally messed up her face.
purpletentacle
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The environments also contain more particle effects, better atmospheric effects and foliage psychics.
Yeah i know exactly what you are talking about man. It's sad to see a lot of PC gamers so biased and resentful towards the consoles like that. To me it shows a lack of real passion and respect for gaming as a hobby (and as a whole) because if someone truly loves gaming...they will appreciate and love playing great games no matter which platform it happens to be on...may it be handheld mobile gaming devices, consoles or the pc platform.
I was born into gaming on a Atari, C64 ,Amiga 500, Arcades, Sega Genesis,etc I have too many great gaming memories that were spread out on all various gaming platforms. Maybe some of these snotty PC gamers are so biased towards consoles because they have no memories of gaming on them? I don't know...I'll never figure out why some are like this..but don't get me wrong. There are a lot of avid PC gamers out there that love console gaming as well! Like me!
Developers have moved their focus to consoles..most of the R&D is being spent there...its the nature of the beast but as long as consoles keep getting AAA games...PC's will see a nice portion of these games come over...again, its a win win for everyone.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Gsync doesn't function under 30fps, but it would help quite a bit if a game could run unlocked between 30 and 60. Which is something I think even the One could manage.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
What the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 build have versus PC:
- New Lara model, most details in the face.
- TressFX optimisation assumed.
- Additional details/density to certain scenes (eg: foliage).
- Tweaked lighting engine.
- Subsurface light scattering shader on Lara's skin.
- Hand animated physics for certain objects/props replaced with a physics engine (eg: Lara's equipment moves to her movement via physics, not animation).
- Some reworked textures.
- Handful of other changes.
What we don't know:
- Extent of "Ultra" PC setting implementation (eg: tessellation, SSAO, etc).
- Rendering complexity of similar effects (eg: how many samples are used for SSAO and TressFX).
- Texture differences, if they exist.
stargateheaven
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my friend just said
"but we'll get a more movie-like feel"
lol
"but we'll get a more movie-like feel"
lol
No, although that is close. The other biggest standout is the higher polygon count on terrain and character models, although since it has been difficult to discern whether Tessellation is being used in the Def Edition, the added geometry may be negated by the lack of it.
EDIT: NVM, expaned much better by EatChildren and Tyrantll. I knew of the other changes, but the expanded Geometry and polygon count seemed to be the most standout as most other new features in the Def Edition I think are already be in the PC ultra settings.
#teamoldface?
It's the standard resolution for AAA.
Messofanego
Banned
She got a little HGH on her, too.
Finaika
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Why is the Xbox an ugly dwarf while the PlayStation is a beautiful elf?
Agreed, the only new face Lara shot I am happy with so far is the one shown way back in the first few pages of this thread where she is adjusting the dials on the radio tower, it was a profile aspect of her face.
Someone screwed her over during the cosmetic surgery.
You totally ruined a beautiful moment. ;_;
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
It isn't funny to call Steve Ballmer a dwarf.
Could file all that under new Lara model....ehh pretty dissapointing...I assume this is being pushed to get some extra funding for TR2 and to gauge interest....Japanese love gauging interest with HD remakes and Definitive editions
XANDER CAGE
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The redesign looks good in that second shot, but AWFUL in the fourth. I relaly don't understand what the fuck they did.
DirgeExtinction
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I personally prefer the new face. The one in the PC(and last gen) version looked weird to me now. This one is better at conveying emotions from what I've seen.
I think she looks way better in motion but in stills it looks bad.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
You'll want to protect her.
There really is quite a few nice touches to Lara's model in the Def Edition. In the shot where she is hiding in the crack she has sweat/water build up on her model in various places, that on top of the more physical looking mud on her in the tree shot that someone also pointed out earlier. Of course there are draw backs like some lower res textures, such as the tree in the close up screen and her hair seems less complex IMO and the strands that I suppose are lit look like they are just thick gray strands of hair.
Wonko_C
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Thanks for taking the time to do the DX11 shots. It also helps me understand the differences between DX9/10 and DX11 for this game.
I'm a he, BTW.
Someone's new avatar.
LOL. I knew that would happen sooner or later.
No problem, seeing your shots made me want to see the differences myself. Thanks for the he/she clarification, just didn't want to assume.
PeskyToaster
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What was wrong with the original face? Looks fine to me. And who looked at a comparison of the two and decided the new one was better? These are important questions
PS+? Or PSN outage in 2011? That lasted 24 days. Not 3 months.
They should just match the Face with the voice and mocap:
You'd figure it would be a no-brainer.
TheSinkingKnight
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I think I just fell in love with that mocap actor. She is so cute.
In that last pic her eyes look terrible. Like she got goosed and was totally shocked. Looks very awkward.
Larson Conway
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10-minute walkthrough
Old?
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/...ve-edition-technical-improvements-walkthrough
Old?
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/...ve-edition-technical-improvements-walkthrough
They should just match the Face with the voice and mocap:
Is she the one from Californication? Runkle's "baby sitter".
If yes then I've "seen" Lara.
They should just match the Face with the voice and mocap:
I would agree, but it seems like she looks a little too young for what CD was going for in the game.
Yeah, that's just a bad shot for the new face. In this particular comparison, the old face looks a lot better. Sometimes they shouldn't change something when it doesn't need to be changed. Also, PC Tress Fx looks way better. The hair in the bottom shot looks ridiculous.
Also, what's with the Xbone'd colors and contrast? Hopefully it won't be like that when I put it on my TV for the definitive edition.
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