Unfortunately....MS is just horrible dealing with gaming development....they keep destroying ips and companies....
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Microsoft: Killer Instinct to continue; will announce "new development partner" soon
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Unfortunately....MS is just horrible dealing with gaming development....they keep destroying ips and companies....
Doesn't Microsoft operate on a "Windows Team," "Office Team," "Azure Team," mentality? Its no wonder that their game studios are organized into Halo Team, Forza Team, Fable Team, Gears Team, etc.
MS likes its rigid compartmentalization, even at the detriment of synergy. Maybe the new CEO will change this, and it'll trickle down into the game studios, but that'll take a while.
zerokoolpsx
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I see this happening too. Just blows my mind MS didn't acquire DH.
Go see how much the Ultra pack costs for Australians then tell me what im talking about, try reading my actual post.
Gotta admit I'm pretty anxious about the state of Killer Instinct moving forward. Will development continue, by who, will the game be maintained... The game could become a regular thing in tournaments when they have enough characters and it's been supported incredibly well until now.
Well that is the ultra pack, you get the classic KI ect with it. You didn't need to pay that you could have got the cheaper version for the FULL game.
Still i paid for the Ultra pack, a pricing tier for the game
How is it different? oh it isn't, I can assure you $20 would not be the full game price for Australians.
So yeah.
In the Ultra pack you get EVERYTHING regardless of vanilla KI, so that is the FULL game.
The Combo Breaker pack includes the first eight characters. Six Killer Instinct characters will be available at launch and this pack includes early access for two more characters. Microsoft has this priced at $19.99.
Killer Instinct Ultra Edition is $39.99. This includes the eight characters from the Combo Breaker bundle, character accessory packs, character costumes, and the original Killer Instinct arcade game.
you know, I'd never thought of it this way but this actually makes a lot of sense (at least as far as explaining why they do it, not in terms of justifying it)
That comes with KI classic doesn't it? There was a reason it cost more, you were buying two games.
The store is region free. There's nothing stopping you paying $20.
Lobb is a senior ms supervisor.
Rich will probably fire himself, since this game was thexonly reason he got that job at dh.
Really, thats why i was directed to the page and paid $50 odd dollars.
I've bought many full games that came with accesories as added microtransactions. I've never include their total cost to work out the final price of a game. I've just ignored then and thought people that bought them just had more money than sense.
Lol, you have to change the region of your Xbox. It takes a little more time, but saves a lot of money. I do it for every purchasei make, because of the silly prices they charge on the UK store.
A Fighting game with one character costume?
Your first fighting game i see.
And they were not micro transactions, its the top tier price for all the content.
One Engine.
lol.
It would be a big suprise if a little studio like Double Helix can bitch slap MS and get away with not making a season 2 that's already been promoted (albeit not paid for).
Amazon gets nothing from angrying MS over a F2P fighting game.
MS is willing to pour some more resources into KI, thus the likely scenario is another 3rd party studio gets the work done under supervision by MS and with technical support from DH. Everybody gets money and players are satisfied.
You paid for 2 games and extras, just like the special edition of Titanfall comes with a model ect. The full GAME is $20, don't care t debate it. That'd be $30 for Aus? Not full price. The extra you paid was for the KI classic, not for your expectations of more characters (which you knew you'd have to pay for anyway ...) which are frigging coming anyway. Check Phils twitter, he said it'll continue.
$52 Ultra Edition, thats how it is.
Accept it.
I know i paid for the season, so what are you arguing? i paid 52 for the Ultra pack with the entirety of season one content.
Whats so hard for you to comprehend? take a bloody deep breathe
Ultra is 40 dollars.
Does it cost morexin aus?
I think the top tier was even more expensive and came with pins or some rubbish, you might as well argue that was the actual price of the game. If you are having buyers remorse after paying double for some extra costumes and a copy of KI classic, i'm sorry. It doesn't change the fact that I bought the full game minus some cosmetic add ons for $20.
Goodacre0081
Member
this has me worried the most. I still play Gears and I want a great next gen version but with no Epic and an unproven studio, I'm cautious about the franchise now.
the departure of big names and handing off of the SP to a different studio was a disaster for Judgment.
FallbackPants
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Pretty sure it was like $25 in the Australian store for the 8 character edition. And would have been less in the US store even with dollar conversion.
well, i can't speak for everyone but the prospect of buying an xbone that almost only has four or five franchises on bi-yearly iterations is not at all appealing
but also i think that turning studios into these franchise factories is incredibly damaging for their development ecosystem. i don't think that's the kind of environment in which creativity can flourish, and ultimately freedom to explore and create is what creates great games.
i mean look at valve: no, they're not the kind of company that anybody can likely replicate, but at any time they have lots of prototyping for different games going on, and the games that actually get made are the ones that people decide should get made. that leads to more fun and exciting games than if they all sat down year in year out and said, 'okay we've gotta make half-life x now...any ideas?'.
When i went to purchase it i was directed to that page for both pricing tiers.
RedAssedApe
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is KI selling well?
FallbackPants
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Change the location of your Xbox to the USA and prepare to have your life changed. $60 games, Xbox on works. Its like a dream man
Thanks for the tip, wish i knew before but thats life.
Ive been playing KI since it dropped non stop, its all ive been playing and it would be a shame for it to stop at season 1.
Some of Rare's current staff and former staff already worked on the title. Just because they are no longer at Rare doesn't mean they cut all ties with MS.
Ken Lobb, a former Nintendo person involved with the original KI games now working at Microsoft, also had a say in this version of KI. So yes, they don't need to "give it back" to the internal studio, if it never left them to begin with.
I rather have rare work on new IPs or old IPs revisited. Like Banjo, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Conkers, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Blast corps, etc.
As their Kinect Sports "series" aren't a sole endeavour by them either. Only the first one was, the other two where made by second parties with assistance from RARE on the design aspect.
So what in blazes those 3 internal studios are up to for now 5 years soon is beyond me. Even if you put 1 studio fully on the Kinect Sports "Series" assistance, it still has 2 left. That afore mentioned studio also is the R&D studio at RARE, so they could also be working on the DevKits for the Xbox One to squeeze some extra Juice out of it (Which is much needed).
Heavens know that R&D studio is fantastic at this. Just look at what they did with the N64. They where not allowed to use Nintendo's internal, and superior to third party, tools. But created far better tools by themselves.
Sorry RARE Rant.. I just miss them that is all
. *Goes back to his work, and looking forward to playing his Wii U to night*
Chobel
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What I'm supposed to see here?
Miles Quaritch
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KI profile pic?
If you look closely, you can see Cinder and Riptor in the background.
(I have no idea. Is it that it says "Partner Creative Director" instead of just "Creative Director?)
Edit: Oh
Ken Lobb's title at Microsoft for people who keep forgetting.
Track record with what? What other franchise have they contracted out and that studio was purchased then they took the title to someone else and the second version wasn't any good???
GoofsterStud
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Believe what you want. But name one title where the publisher owned the rights to the engine made by a 3rd party developer. Just one will do.
They said in the last stream Microsoft is very very happy with the sells of this title and it's continued future.
Doesn't mean Microsoft doesn't have the ability to license the engine created for this game or they own the custom tech in their agreement.
Cant wait for when they announce the developer and relative thread.
Glad to see they're on it. So who makes up the internal MS KI team? Am I missing anyone?
Is Mike Z (skullgirls) still consulting?
It's great that this was the team who got KI into the right hands, and with Lobb and Goddard at the helm it's less worrisome that things will fall apart, but this likely means delays for season 2. Here's hoping they found a great team again, maybe someone who won't get bought out from under them this time! Also hoping a few DH folks who are passionate about the KI project (e.g, Wilette, Verfaillie, Filthy Rich) just join MS to continue on. Would love to see KI get to season 3 (e.g., 24 characters) at the very least.
- Ken Lobb (MS creative director, original KI)
- James Goddard (MS senior designer, combat designer - SFII, Weaponlord, etc.)
- Adam Isgreen (MS creative director -- see interview about KI)
- Daniel Fornace (MS game designer)
- Shawn Retig (MS producer, KI director)
- Campbell Tran (former competitive Street Fighter tournament player)
Is Mike Z (skullgirls) still consulting?
It's great that this was the team who got KI into the right hands, and with Lobb and Goddard at the helm it's less worrisome that things will fall apart, but this likely means delays for season 2. Here's hoping they found a great team again, maybe someone who won't get bought out from under them this time! Also hoping a few DH folks who are passionate about the KI project (e.g, Wilette, Verfaillie, Filthy Rich) just join MS to continue on. Would love to see KI get to season 3 (e.g., 24 characters) at the very least.
GoofsterStud
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As unlikely as PS4 going under from sony going bankrupt or Microsoft's CEO selling off the xbox division from the pressure of stockholders.
Now buying a lisence from amazon is a possibility. It might even be a fair deal with a no poaching clause.
This new cell phone loves to correct me in the weirdest ways.
Even if Amazon ended up with the license for the engine in the terms of the deal, I'd be shocked if they didn't sell it to Microsoft. Even if they were making a "big boy" console, making a fighting game with unknown characters in this day and age is still hard and it'd possibly be more lucrative for Amazon to sell it rather than to start a new franchise from scratch.
Again: You're assuming that MS doesn't already have a license for the engine (specifically for KI 2013).
Look at it this way: It's their game, their IP and their assets. They should be allowed to do whatever they want with it.
GoofsterStud
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With their own engine sure.
Triggerhappytel
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But that's kind of what they did with DH, wasn't it? No experience in the genre and a developer with a pretty poor track record overall, yet they did a great job. So that makes predicting the next KI developer pretty tough. It could well be another wild card.