SEGAvangelist
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They are supposedly planning one, but it wouldn't be until after Season 2 is completed.
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Microsoft: Killer Instinct to continue; will announce "new development partner" soon
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They are supposedly planning one, but it wouldn't be until after Season 2 is completed.
All the base characters being season 2 or just Fulgore from season 1 left?
Non-compete clauses are pretty much unenforceable in California
And its unfathomable to think that a publisher would pay for a game to be made and not have access to the codebase.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Would be hilarious if Amazon bought this new partner as well.
MS, you need to start investing more on internal studios. Your current strategy makes it look like you can fold up the Xbox division at a moment's notice.
MS, you need to start investing more on internal studios. Your current strategy makes it look like you can fold up the Xbox division at a moment's notice.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
If it's not Rare again I'll laugh.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
People need to let go of the idea of "Rare" games. They are Rare in name only at this point. It's pretty telling a big franchise like KI was given to DH instead the first time.
Buying DH would have been a long term mistake. They are a small dev team who finally released a good game. I think they definitely have talent, but unless ms really built them up like 343 and black tusk, they would likely be a xbla dev. And if ms is going to buy a small dev team, it should be the behemoth, not dh.
Dh would have needed a few more great games before it would be a good idea to buy them. And I'd bet quite a few of the ki guys at dh like rich will probably jump ship to keep working on ki. Thats the whole reason he joined dh in the first place right?
Dh would have needed a few more great games before it would be a good idea to buy them. And I'd bet quite a few of the ki guys at dh like rich will probably jump ship to keep working on ki. Thats the whole reason he joined dh in the first place right?
RedNumberFive
Banned
So this is the Microsoft equivalent of what happened with that Playstation Allstars game.
They can start by buying Remedy, Playground Games, and Ruffian. Would be a shame to lose that talent to a competitor and Amazon is hungry.
I don't know why anyone wants this when everyone at Rare that worked on KI is gone. I don't think they've staffed up at all with FG expertise -- most of their hires have been in racing (ex-Code Masters) and they've preferred some FPS experience in job postings.
Personally, I'd much rather see Rare focus on Kinect Sports Rivals (KS 1 and 2 were a lot of fun), Banjo, Viva Pinata, and Perfect Dark (MS needs a great spy/espionage series like Mission Impossible).
Dark Octave
Banned
For what? It's not even the same Rare. May as well give it to Double Fine or Taletale
Not to derail, but is my sarcasm meter malfunctioning or did I really miss this (what to me would be) very important news?
On-topic: I can only hope this latest unsuspected development doesn't run this great game into the ground before it had a real chance to become fully featured and a true competitor in the fighting game arena. I can't see how the game will continue to be expanded with a second season etc. without DH's involvement, at least not in any consistent manner if DH played such a vital role when it comes to art direction and such. Then again, let's try to remain cautiously optimistic until we learn more...and hope that at least some of the original crew will remain onboard...(which is tough, I know...)...
RedNumberFive
Banned
I was told the same on PSA, although in the end, who cares. That game was pretty mediocre.
I've played both. One has an active fanbase, the other doesn't. Should tell you something about the quality.
Forsaken82
Member
This is such a stupid argument. Many people frowned at the idea of Double Helix working on the Killer Instinct game and it turned out pretty well, and Double Helix had NO fighting game experience (as much as I love Sacrifice, Shiny and Collective don't have sterling reputations, and merging into double helix hasn't necessarily helped). Rare hasn't worked on a "real" game since Nuts and Bolts, but it doesn't mean they are inept at returning to the franchises that gave them a reputation. Not to mention, Kameo, Viva Pinata and Nuts and Bolts are considered solid titles, and these are all games made well after Rare fell from grace.
They are a game studio. They just need to be given the right opportunity. MS are the ones holding them to focusing on Kinect. I would love to see them given the opportunity to try there hands at another real game so they can actually shut all the naysayers up.
Vigilant Gambit
Member
I don't appreciate all the hate on PSAS. That game was pretty solid. I found some of the balance changes questionable, though.
Speaking of which, I think Superbot is the last free agent in terms of American fighting game talent. And even they are tied up working on their new IP right now.
As far as DH's involvement with KI moving forward, I'm pretty sure it's done. Amazon is probably footing the bill for breaking DH's contract for KI.
I'm not sure, but I believe James Goddard, designer of Weaponlord, is working for Double Helix. Buktooth (top SF4 player) is a senior employee at Microsoft, so they still have him. Ken Lobb is also with Microsoft.
Speaking of which, I think Superbot is the last free agent in terms of American fighting game talent. And even they are tied up working on their new IP right now.
As far as DH's involvement with KI moving forward, I'm pretty sure it's done. Amazon is probably footing the bill for breaking DH's contract for KI.
I'm not sure, but I believe James Goddard, designer of Weaponlord, is working for Double Helix. Buktooth (top SF4 player) is a senior employee at Microsoft, so they still have him. Ken Lobb is also with Microsoft.
Vigilant Gambit
Member
double post
Couple GAFFERs said that MS expressed they were very happy with it.
Goddard is at MS as a senior game designer in combat design.
You mean marketing strategy; the game? lol
Vigilant Gambit
Member
Oh.
If that's the case, then KI will be fine. I looked up Goddard's LinkedIn profile and saw he hasn't updated it since working at Vigil.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Hook based Mick Gordon up with whichever dev comes next, MS 
no way to know for sure
the leaderboards cap at 10,000
but at least i can tell you - there's 10,000 people out there with 89 or more wins in ranked!Syphon Filter
Member
So partner is probably some other 3rd party the way they worded it? It should just be their studio so things like this don't happen.
His personal website seems to be more up to date. He worked on KI and Ryse, and has been referenced in interviews as Microsoft's senior/combat designer.
Whatever the case, he's not at DH.
.la1n
Member
Good luck Mike, you done a wonderful Job :/
While I didn't agree with all of Mike's decisions he seemed like a genuinely nice guy and passionate about the project.
he owns an original Arcade Ki cabinet. Not many producers can say that.
Mortal Kombat Vs. Killer Instinct fits a lot more better than KI Vs. SF, with blood, gore, fatalities, etc.
No thanks, I want a good looking and animating game. NR can't do that.
Gameplay wise ki and sf are way more compatible.
CommandThrower
Member
...I would be okay with that. I like Ninja Theory, Enslaved is one of my favorite games of the last generation.
shiftplusone
Member
fixed
Rare would have to work 10x as hard as they currently do to reach "medicore" levels
If it IS rare then you can say goodbye to anyone giving a shit about KI
DH did a damn good job and they shouldn't ruin that by putting fucking Rare on the franchise
I'm one of those who think(rightfully) that KI was a garbage franchise and should have never been rebooted because of how fucking terrible it was.
DH made me a believer
Visually too. Always said KI looks like a SF4 reskin. In a good way though. Love KI. Wish I was better at it. Dojo lesson 18 is fucking impossible to complete.
meanspartan
Member
And this is why to some extent it is good to own studios.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Microsoft will probably announce 4J Studios as the studio that will helm Killer Instinct now. They're usually their go-to studio for things like that (Perfect Dark XBLA, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie XBLA, Minecraft).
They did ports...
Poker Face
Member
Uh except they actually have to make content, not just port it.
polyh3dron
Banned
Since I just paid Mad Catz $200 for an arcade stick for this game, I guess you could say I'm kind of pissed.
rokkerkory
Member
MS got Googled! Dang so much DH did right with the game! That's prob what got them bought.
Blackage
Member
f that.
Marvel vs Capcom vs Killer Instinct, the combos! The combo breakers, the cast, the insanity!
Especially since KI ditched fatalities, hell you could ditch the blood and nothing would be lost. The issue with SF vs MK has always been Capcom not wanting it's cast to be brutally murdered for entertainment purposes.
Black Republican
Member
cant wait
These Ninja Theory/Spark Unlimited etc jokes seem a bit odd, considering DH had no credibility before Killer Instinct either.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
It was well received. The only complaints came from the lack of content at launch. Jeff liking it (even saying it was his favourite launch exclusive) is pretty huge, in my opinion.