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What do you think of the people who use the pejorative "SJW?"
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UtterlyPerplexed
Member
I will instinctively think they're a moron who hasn't ever had to introspectively examine their own privilege. And I'll also take the label as a badge of honour at this point, because given how widely pejoratively applied the label is these days, an "SJW" is essentially someone who is not a cunt.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Bingo.
Extra Sauce
Member
It's disturbing that so many people see social justice as a bad thing.
Darryl M R
Member
It shows that someone is intellectually inferior, not discussing in good faith and is not worth the effort to respond. Same with PC. And then they will go and quote MLK, one of the biggest SJW.
Me expecting people not to be bigot is considered PC. Go figure.
Me expecting people not to be bigot is considered PC. Go figure.
I don't know, I've people throw this term haphazardly at a lot of different people with different ideas and even at some people who agree with them.
Monocle
Member
Why can't you just acknowledge the natural superiority of straight white entitled sexually frustrated neckbeard slobs?
They're probably thinking of the old outdated definition, which used to refer to histrionic concern trolling. It's flat out irresponsible to use the term SJW now if you're not a giant asshole, since it's been so thoroughly co-opted by giant assholes.
Graphics Horse
Member
I only see it on here
benicillin
Banned
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
broncobuster
Banned
Side-eye.
This too.
Ventilaator
Banned
The perversion of the term sucks so much, because there used to be completely valid use cases for it. The person who takes the most minuscule stupid thing that doesn't really matter and pretends like it's the most horrible thing that ever happened is a real type of person and SJW was a pretty good way to describe those people.
But then the Internet got it's shit covered hands on it and the term now means "Person who isn't an evil dickhead"
But then the Internet got it's shit covered hands on it and the term now means "Person who isn't an evil dickhead"
anyone who uses "SJW" non-ironically is not someone worth listening to in any context.
These internet assholes think being an "SJW" is the worst thing someone can be. I've actually seen a comment from an internet poster that lumped "SJW" in with "Nazis", "fascists", "communists" in a list of horrible people types ending with "etc".
These internet assholes think being an "SJW" is the worst thing someone can be. I've actually seen a comment from an internet poster that lumped "SJW" in with "Nazis", "fascists", "communists" in a list of horrible people types ending with "etc".
ClosingADoor
Member
All these terms have lost any meaning over the past years. Everytime I read stuff like SJW, being triggered, microaggressions, political correct, etc, etc. It is thrown around everywhere and doesn't mean anything anymore.
All of these. Also, they're most likely violent, cowardly, extremely sensitive assholes who label people they disagree with as snowflakes and cucks, while being so themselves.
Fuck 'em. If someone is using the term non-ironically they've not worth giving the time of mind.
ReplacementPelican
Member
My brother uses the term now and again when he sees a disfavourable tweet or something. Makes me cringe really, really hard.
captainpat
Member
A couple years I used to use it unironically. Unfortunately, it quickly got co-opted by bigots. So if I'm weary of people who use it.
TetraGenesis
Member
Perfection.
EdibleKnife
Member
The word is Social Justice Warrior. Someone who fights for social justice. Someone who sees the plight of different minority ethnicities, genders and sexual orientations and works fervently toward righting wrongs aimed at some of the most vulnerable and used people in society not just currently but throughout human history....And it's used by some people as a pejorative to instill shame in people who care. I consider those people either ignorant, lacking in empathy or both.
BackLogJoe
Member
Yeah basically. I used to think that SJW was reserved for the people on the left side that are as ridiculous as Rush Limbaugh is on the right side. However, as it is now, if you lean left at all, youre a SJW.
cromofo
Member
It was an ironic term, hence the "warrior" part.
See Hugh Mungus meme. That's a SJW.
ehhh I feel dirty now
oh, fair enough, i totally forgot about that WSJ / PewDiePie period. You're right.
I mean, they were smart enough not to publicly back JonTron.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Just ignore them. Nothing they say is worth listening to if they need to lean on that term to make an argument.
There was a very very brief period of time when it was used to accurately label people whose entire existence revolved around creating nonsense injustices to make a scene about in order to get attention. These people weren't interested in making a difference or righting wrongs. They simply wanted to feel smug, superior, and the center of attention.
Very quickly though, as usual, the internet turned it into a broad insult for anyone with a sense of right and wrong who cares about people other than themselves. Now when I see people use it negatively, it's a good bet their are grade A pieces of shit.
Very quickly though, as usual, the internet turned it into a broad insult for anyone with a sense of right and wrong who cares about people other than themselves. Now when I see people use it negatively, it's a good bet their are grade A pieces of shit.
disappeared
Banned
I honestly like the term itself, as it sounds noble and could be appropriately applied to people who stand up for what's right.
Then the internet got ahold of it.
Then the internet got ahold of it.
Arguably worse is how these types of people have so many views about a type of person they've never met. They saw a tweet or a youtube vid of a college kid way the fuck elsewhere and now they get so mad at a boogeyman of their design that they pre-react to people who aren't even there.
Chairmanchuck
Member
What about people who use Pepe?
Vigilant Walrus
Member
SJW is not different from anything else. Like other terms, slogans and symbols it is co-opted by different groups. There is no unison on what it means. And that's not exclusive to SJW. That has pretty much been the par for course for any number of words that separate the left and the right. What does it mean, how do you use it, and how dare the other side think it means what I and my ilk think it should mean?
To some people SJW is a term used for preachy tumblr-esque idiots who are as embarrasment as their far-right manchild mirror image on reddit and 4chan. For others, it's just a term for standing out for decent values.
I can see the term being used in both ways. It's not that different from "liberal" or "feminist". I think I can be called both of those in an insulting or positive way, simply by the token of the sender.
It doesn't bother me, because a label is not who you are or what you stand for. Every label or symbol means different things to different people, so when someone calls you something, it's their own world view that is inflated on it.
I cannot decide if you think being called a feminist or a SJW or a liberal is more offensive or more positive. Incidently that is why I don't think it's a good idea to sum up your person or values in a term or symbol.
TetraGenesis
Member
Yeah, I had to utterly drop H3H3 after they started leaning hard into this anti-feminism, anti-PC, anti-media thing. It feels like they're entrenching themselves in ignorance (mostly Ethan). Like, don't model after your fucking YouTube commenters, man.
cromofo
Member
They're probably alt-right edgelords.
If it's the smug Pepe, see above. Otherwise, it's w/e
JonnyDBrit
Member
For me, varies. At minimum it indicates someone whose understanding of online discourse is ultimately limited, at worst it's someone actively anti-progressive and hateful.
I've a friend from Singapore, and one former associate, who basically run along this spectrum. The former is just... not that well engaged with western media circles, and so easily mislead by memes or hot takes shared to them through other friends. However thanks to us discussing this stuff a lot in terms of fiction and representation, he's learned to increasingly apply a critical gaze to that stuff, and he's increasingly rendered 'Social Justice Warriors' in air quotes when discussing such arguments, implying his doubt in the validity of the term.
The latter though... hoo boy. Puts up a cheery front, but very much plays ignorant when you call him on out on casually claiming that 'SJWs', alongside multiculturalism, socialism, and the left in general, are somehow ruining western culture (of which he is a big fan). Spent much of last year 'asking' what I thought of the possibility of a 2017 where Trump runs the US, Le Pen ran France, and Nigel Farage (fucking what) was in charge of the UK. Explained to him every time on why all three of those were horrific choices both in terms of politicians and their probable consequences, and he would regress to, "Yeah but what if?"
Stopped associating with him, and while these two do know each other IRL, the former has been distancing himself from the latter as he's become increasingly aware of just what the latter's rhetoric even means.
I've a friend from Singapore, and one former associate, who basically run along this spectrum. The former is just... not that well engaged with western media circles, and so easily mislead by memes or hot takes shared to them through other friends. However thanks to us discussing this stuff a lot in terms of fiction and representation, he's learned to increasingly apply a critical gaze to that stuff, and he's increasingly rendered 'Social Justice Warriors' in air quotes when discussing such arguments, implying his doubt in the validity of the term.
The latter though... hoo boy. Puts up a cheery front, but very much plays ignorant when you call him on out on casually claiming that 'SJWs', alongside multiculturalism, socialism, and the left in general, are somehow ruining western culture (of which he is a big fan). Spent much of last year 'asking' what I thought of the possibility of a 2017 where Trump runs the US, Le Pen ran France, and Nigel Farage (fucking what) was in charge of the UK. Explained to him every time on why all three of those were horrific choices both in terms of politicians and their probable consequences, and he would regress to, "Yeah but what if?"
Stopped associating with him, and while these two do know each other IRL, the former has been distancing himself from the latter as he's become increasingly aware of just what the latter's rhetoric even means.
I've quit watching multiple niche YouTube channels when they suddenly posted videos complaining about 'SJWs' in their hobby or fandom. No people are not ruining your hobby/fandom because they want more inclusiveness, no it does not need to be a fucking boy's club, no most people aren't trying to make you feel like a bad person for enjoying something like MGSV when they point out the absurdity and grossness of Quiet's design or the fact that tabletop miniatures games severely lack in female representation.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
If someone used that terminology in a conversation, I'd suggest they lay off the internet for a while.
theepicoftyler
Member
It's generally a really good signal that a person you're about to engage with is not a well reasoned individual.
In most cases, that means they quickly become a person I am not going to engage with.
In most cases, that means they quickly become a person I am not going to engage with.