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Android |OT2| - Patent pending
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-Pyromaniac-
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Honestly, none of it sounds TOO ridiculous except this part, why would they let you choose the RAM?:
So motorola is going to manufacture different phones for everybody or something? Or they'll just make a ton of each configuration and hope it sells.
So motorola is going to manufacture different phones for everybody or something? Or they'll just make a ton of each configuration and hope it sells.
well they listed a shit ton of rumors yesterday, their chances of one being is pretty good
I expect a handful of the things mentioned to be correct, but a handful to be lifted directly out of someone's ass. Embellishment for no reason, like the build to order. IF something like that is true, it would be "I want the 1080p screen with 32gb memory" not "I want a 1080p screen, 4gb ram, a microSD slot, etc"
zomgbbqftw
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Configurable RAM? Is this some kind of joke? Don't they realise how expensive that is? Phones are not made like desktops and laptops, they can't be easily taken apart and the RAM is fused directly onto the main board, it is not a drop in addition like on PCs.
Ridiculous rumour.
-Pyromaniac-
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You know what I'm guessing. If the rumour is true that is. They'll have 2 phones (or whatever). If you choose less than 2 gigs of RAM then you will automatically get phone design #1 with whatever else you chose the phone to have. If you chose 2+ you will automatically get phone number 2 with all the other stuff you chose. So it's like an illusion of build to order but you're really just choosing from a bunch of phones motorola has made and set at different prices.
Something along that line. And that's if this ridiculousness is even true.
edit: or what gcubed said, the rumour will be right but the options will be more general. As in you can choose a low end middle end and high end phone all with different configurations. Basically what I said. Rather than actually being able to choose specific parts.
Something along that line. And that's if this ridiculousness is even true.
edit: or what gcubed said, the rumour will be right but the options will be more general. As in you can choose a low end middle end and high end phone all with different configurations. Basically what I said. Rather than actually being able to choose specific parts.
ThatObviousUser
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Phones are becoming more PC-like, I could see it.
Vanillalite
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I wish May would hurry up and get here so we can get a new Nexus Tablet.
zomgbbqftw
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No way, the assembly cost addition would erode already wafer thin margins at Moto. There is no way they go for such folly. It would be insane to allow users to customise their devices and build to order.
They could have different configurations available to buy at different price points, that's just an extension of having one device with less storage for less money. However, the saving for 1GB less RAM is going to be less than 15$ and they would need to charge $50 less for it to make it attractive for the end user.
ThatObviousUser
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Well the One doesn't have a multitasking button and they changed the order, so there's that. Otherwise it's mostly just a personal preference thing. I prefer capacitive buttons.
Edit: Oh, and the GS4 has a worthless menu button.
-Pyromaniac-
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Maybe that's how google plans to solve some of their shipping problems as well? By offering multiple phone configurations they might be hoping the orders will be spread out and easier to fulfill rather than having everyone order the same 1 or 2. Then again, if the price is right I bet most people end up ordering "the good configuration", whatever that is. Can't wait till i/o just to end this series of rumours for good.
Vanillalite
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Don't you mean Chromebook Pixel 2?
No. They should can that shit now and work on getting the next round of Nexus Tablets out even faster!
ThatObviousUser
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Don't you mean Chromebook Pixel 2?
Surprised to see you excited about a new android notebook.
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The Faceless Master
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there is no way that more SKUs would be easier to fill.
-Pyromaniac-
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work with me here!
SirMossyBloke
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I dont think the screen is going to be better on the S4, but I may be wrong. HTC's screen tech is fantastic.
As for design, I think the HTC wins that easily over the Z or ZL. Water damage isnt an issue for me and I prefer the look of the phone over the all glass design of the Z
-Pyromaniac-
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Samsung infographic:
Don't worry I'm sure it'll come preloaded with the version of chrome that has flash built in.
Against the HTC One, though, it comes from HTC. I'm still pissed with them after their constant lies regarding the 4.1 update. And they've just returned my phone after a warranty repair in a completely broken state (went in with the battery broken, came back with the screen broken).
ThatObviousUser
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Coppy stahp
OriginalThinking
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What is it I don't want them to do? I never said the Galaxy S4 shouldn't allow micro SD cards or removable batteries.
Ahhh lets bold things in case I don't get the point. It's kind of like speaking really loudly at people whose first language isn't English because you think that it'll make you easier to understand as opposed to say, talking at a normal volume at a normal pace. Faceless, I expected better of you.
Plastic doesn't do away with denting, scuffing or scratching. You just care less cos it was only cheap plastic anyway.
You want to set up the fallacy that you can't have really nice materials and be robust. Though I will agree that the Nexus 4 or even the iPhone 4 aren't great examples of this. The iPhone 5 on the other hand, or my old metal Sony Ericssson C905 are phones built from beautiful materials that won't fall apart under everyday usage. Samsung's designers could make a unibody metal smartphone that could both look gorgeous and function as an everyday item. Or even use more interesting design such as the Lumia 800 which used premium plastics but actually had a bold striking design. And calling them gimmick shells? Wow. I'm presuming you only ever wear plain cheap white sneakers because any other shoe is a gimmick shell, especially if it uses slightly more expensive materials.
Yeah, you are right Samsung have in no way tried to imitate Apple and have always tried to be different from Apple and that is the reason for their success.....I mean it's not like there is a court case about Samsung copying Apple... oh....
If you are suggesting that if Samsung start making phones that are better designed they'll start selling less then you're verging on being ludicrous. And I'm not suggesting that every Samsung phone should be made out of better materials, just the very high end. Samsung hardware is kinda like Android software circa Gingerbread. Hey guys, we could make it smoother and have nicer transitions and shit and a better thought out design philosophy and we'll call it Ice Cream Sandwich. No, wait we don't need to cos we already sell more phones than anyone else, why actually improve right? And I didn't suggest that Samsung should do away with removable batteries or SD cards either. You can still design nice handsets and keep those features. HTC's woes are nothing to do with hardware design. Shit software, shit marketing and confused branding have been their problems. Their only saving grace is that they make some hardware that looks interesting such as the HTC 8S, The One X and One S and now the HTC One. Suggesting that making nicer handsets means your sales will go down is nonsense.
In essence what Samsung have done with the S4 is ok. But it should have been holy fucking bollocks, Octa Core, 1080p screen, 13 megapixel camera and holy shit that design pisses over everything else in the market. But what we got was great specs again (though not a big leap over the competition) and a samey design. But ok is no longer what I expect of Samsung. Not with all that cash, not with all that talent, not with that mission statement of dethroning the iPhone in America. They make beautiful TV's. Outstanding design. But the S4 design is utterly bland. And that's why I'm meh. I should have been super excited but I'm not.
Exciting to think about, isn't it?
The Faceless Master
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no, what i'm saying is if they start making phones that are worse designed they will sell less. those other materials are an illusion, they don't make phones better, they make them worse. they're nice if you want a trophy or a plaque. they're anything but that if you want a mobile handset. who celebrates a design that comes scuffed up fresh out of the box?
OriginalThinking
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Using metal would mean a worst designed phone and because it uses metal it's comparable to a trophy? (P.S People quite like being given trophies, cos it usually means they've done pretty well at something) So because the S4 uses plastic I guess that makes it a potty right?
The Faceless Master
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those are usually made of ceramic. you're thinking of the seats, which are usually interchangeable and made of plastic.
OriginalThinking
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The Faceless Master
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but Samsung made that infographic.
so are light goalposts.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! The rumors are swirling aren't they? You can cut the air with a knife it seems. The stuff about sizes and memory configurations are somewhat taken out of context. From what I've heard, the sizes of 8,16,32,64,128 and possibly 256 will be available (with the higher end ones in low supply) but available come end of May/early June. As for the SoC they're using, they have demoed multiple SKUs and are in the midst of settling on one right now. While everyone and their mother thinks the Tegra is shit, I do know they have gotten an insane amount of standby time given that the battery is inching towards a 3600mAH battery. Someone mentioned the KLP hooks for battery/CPU management, this is one of the things they're hoping to best Apple and everyone else on, hence why the "X" will be exclusive to KLP at first since it will be best optimized for that hardware. Memory wise it will match the S4 with 2GB DDR3.
A lot of you have been asking about screen size.... not sure if I'm going to tell you yet just because its so fun hearing everyone bash 4.7 to now 6.3 in screen sizes. I will drop a little nugget that Moto is already working on the X-2 prototype that is supposed to be running the tablet resolution of 2560x1600. Yeah...do the PPI on that. I will say this. The screen has amazing viewing angles, awesome in the direct sun and the color temps aren't annoying.
What else... oh, the stuff Samsung showed/demo'ed --- a lot of those features will be stock in KLP. Gestures and NFC as I've said are going to be a huge part of it. Not going to spoil anything else for now.
A lot of you have been asking about screen size.... not sure if I'm going to tell you yet just because its so fun hearing everyone bash 4.7 to now 6.3 in screen sizes. I will drop a little nugget that Moto is already working on the X-2 prototype that is supposed to be running the tablet resolution of 2560x1600. Yeah...do the PPI on that. I will say this. The screen has amazing viewing angles, awesome in the direct sun and the color temps aren't annoying.
What else... oh, the stuff Samsung showed/demo'ed --- a lot of those features will be stock in KLP. Gestures and NFC as I've said are going to be a huge part of it. Not going to spoil anything else for now.
-Pyromaniac-
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3600mah? I'll need to see the receipts on that one!
Also what about camera? Typical motorola garbage or did they figure out how to do processing software? Also this phone sounds humongous. Hope not.
A new Obama avatar for Pctx if he's bs'ing us
Jayayess1190
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I was hype for the X phone. Then the 4 came in stock and I have it but am now completely skeptical on everything about the X phone.
-Pyromaniac-
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I would be skeptical even if sundar pichai dropped the same rumour.
Huh. I had no idea you now support Obama. I guess Obamacare being constitutional finally made you a believer. Welcome!
Marginally bigger than the Maxx HD in terms of thickness.
Doubtful but I'm not burning my friend at Moto.
Naw... I'll go with a Hillary one.
If you buy any phone right now you'll punch yourself in the face and crotch.
Fair enough.
Support Obama? No, the guy is a clown. His mug shot though shows what the entire case of the political scene right now of which both D's and R's are B's.
Nope. Anything I'm saying to you guys/gals has nothing to do with their news postings... unless someone on here works for them and floats my info. Guess time will tell.
Oh you.Bookmarking post for inevitable disappointment
ThatObviousUser
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I hate posts like these.
Vanillalite
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So mad props HTC. They just sent my GF a One X+, android key chain, and some chocolate.
Lol, more sarcasm. I get it, you're a changed person now.
No but really, we OFA supporters need to stick together and get the word out that we need a balanced, gradual approach to trimming the deficit and debt.
Oh yeah, well I hate posts like these.
ThatObviousUser
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Oh yeah? Well the jerk store called, they're running out of you.
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