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prudislav · Jan 4, 2017

UWP exclusivity confirmed

Previously, we were unable to ascertain whether *Game Mode would be a feature restricted to games built for the Universal Windows Platform (UWP)*, but it does appear that this could be the case. Our information states that games developed for the Windows 10, Xbox One, and Project Scorpio ecosystem *specifically need to be "Game Mode enabled" Universal Windows Apps (UWA)*.

http://www.windowscentral.com/game-mode-windows-10-will-power-xbox-one-project-scorpio

(not sure if it deserves own topic)

nynt9 · Jan 4, 2017

Called it!

Into the trash it goes.jpg

Son of a Witch · Jan 4, 2017

I don't see the problem there. Maybe devs will finally start moving over to UWP.

Ricerocket · Jan 4, 2017

Not missing out much. From what I saw, it's a simplified task manager and shuts down anything eating up lots of cpu/ram on the PC.

It's basically for xbox gamers using a PC.

Jedi2016 · Jan 4, 2017

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

mattp · Jan 4, 2017

how quickly did you type that thread title just so you could be first?

Xando · Jan 4, 2017

Well that's that then.

Better luck next time microsoft

LinkSlayer64 · Jan 4, 2017

Back to shutting off every service including print spooler to maximize performance.
(I have actually done this to run Skyrim on an old shitty graphics card at 640x480)

prudislav · Jan 4, 2017

could any mod fix the typo in the title?
thx

mattp said:
how quickly did you type that thread title just so you could be first?

Nah ... just lying in the bed with laptop on my belly ;-)

Complicated · Jan 4, 2017

This should be a good way to get developers to move up to UWP. Makes sense.

Hasney · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
I don't see the problem there. Maybe devs will finally start moving over to UWP.

Complicated said:
This should be a good way to get developers to move up to UWP. Makes sense.

Any dev that does that can lose my sale and judging by reactions from others, I'm not the only one. I'm done with MS's crap and I'm not reformatting to get Windows Store games working again, no matter how good they are.

rrs · Jan 4, 2017

ah yes, the real game's can take part in the fun. I run stuff with my games so I don't trust anything to play find the loadbearer on my pc

leeh · Jan 4, 2017

Said this in the Scorpio thread as it was posted there, but I can imagine this game mode being MS' big picture equivalent. As in, the Xbox UI on PC.

Can imagine that is why it's UWP exclusive.

Shpeshal Nick · Jan 4, 2017

Is this a major issue for Microsoft's games? Or any games for that matter?

In theory, it's making it easier for debs to make one game and deploy it on both Xbox and PC. Isn't that one of the main points?

Son of a Witch · Jan 4, 2017

Hasney said:
Any dev that does that can lose my sale and judging by reactions from others, I'm not the only one. I'm done with MS's crap and I'm not reformatting to get Windows Store games working again, no matter how good they are.

Are we still confusing UWP with the Windows Store?

OnionPowder · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
I don't see the problem there. Maybe devs will finally start moving over to UWP.

lol

Son of a Witch said:
Are we still confusing UWP with the Windows Store?

Are we confusing UWP with working on anything other than Windows 10?

Syf · Jan 4, 2017

Microsoft stays failing

Tecnniqe · Jan 4, 2017

we were unable to ascertain whether *Game Mode would be a feature restricted to games built for the Universal Windows Platform (UWP)

it does appear that this could be the case

Our information states that games developed for the Windows 10, Xbox One, and Project Scorpio ecosystem *specifically need to be "Game Mode enabled" Universal Windows Apps (UWA)*

Where does it say its 100% certain exclusivity other than that upcoming games need to support the feature to end up in MS ecosystem?

GHG · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
I don't see the problem there. Maybe devs will finally start moving over to UWP.

If they want to shut down, then sure.

IcyRhythms · Jan 4, 2017

"It certainly looks as though Microsoft is making a big push into Windows 10 Store gaming"

Uh...

What improvements have they made to the store? They haven't given Steam and Origin users any reason to really dig into or appreciate that store.

oti · Jan 4, 2017

Why do you hate us so much, Microsoft?
If it's true.

gngf123 · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
I don't see the problem there. Maybe devs will finally start moving over to UWP.

I fucking hope not. UWP is a mess. The less developers who are restricted by it the better.

Son of a Witch · Jan 4, 2017

GHG said:
If they want to shut down, then sure.

So a dev chooses to use UWP instead of Win32 and that makes them shut down... how? Most people won't even know they are using UWP.

Complicated · Jan 4, 2017

Hasney said:
Any dev that does that can lose my sale and judging by reactions from others, I'm not the only one. I'm done with MS's crap and I'm not reformatting to get Windows Store games working again, no matter how good they are.

You're using MS's old format already (Win32). I'm not sure you understand what UWP is.

RionaaM · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
Are we still confusing UWP with the Windows Store?

Are you pretending there's nothing wrong with UWAs when it comes to gaming?

Omikaru · Jan 4, 2017

Complete waste of a feature, then.

aeolist · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
Are we still confusing UWP with the Windows Store?

the windows store is still the only place you can buy UWAs

as long as that remains the case nitpicking like this is meaningless

Izuna · Jan 4, 2017

So, I don't really care anymore.

Hasney · Jan 4, 2017

Son of a Witch said:
Are we still confusing UWP with the Windows Store?

That packaging has more issues than regular .exes, so I don't know why in the hell someone would compile their game into a UWA unless they were given an incentive to via selling in the Windows Store or under the influence of some pretty strong drugs.

Since that is currently the only place UWA games are sold, they're one and the same for now.

ShirAhava · Jan 4, 2017

As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

krang · Jan 4, 2017

Well obviously.

Durante · Jan 4, 2017

Well, I very much doubt it will actually do much anyway on a PC with a decent amount of RAM and no silly CPU-intensive background processes. And I wouldn't want some software to decide what software runs on my PC at any point, I'm capable of doing that on my own

As I said before, creating a feature that can be used with less than 1% of the game library on the platform just seems like something MS would do right now.

Aklamarth · Jan 4, 2017

Let's wait and see WHAT exactly is "Game Mode". Maybe is some UWP API feature so it can only support that ?

cakely · Jan 4, 2017

We literally all saw that coming.

Son of a Witch said:
I don't see the problem there. Maybe devs will finally start moving over to UWP.

Complicated said:
This should be a good way to get developers to move up to UWP. Makes sense.

Fortunately, this is incredibly unlikely.

tuxfool · Jan 4, 2017

Skepticism rewarded(?)

Linkark07 · Jan 4, 2017

Tecnniqe said:
Where does it say its 100% certain exclusivity other than that upcoming games need to support the feature to end up in MS ecosystem?

As far as I'm aware, they can't force developers to use that feature for release games in W10.

ebullientprism · Jan 4, 2017

Ricerocket said:
Not missing out much. From what I saw, it's a simplified task manager and shuts down anything eating up lots of cpu/ram on the PC.

It's basically for xbox gamers using a PC.

Pretty much. Who cares?

Crayon · Jan 4, 2017

I'm darkly fascinated by the future prospect of open PC vs corporate piss guzzler PC platform wars.

OnionPowder · Jan 4, 2017

Aklamarth said:
Let's wait and see WHAT exactly is "Game Mode". Maybe is some UWP API feature so it can only support that ?

Leaked slide showed it as a simplified task manager. Doesn't seem that beneficial.

ShirAhava said:
As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

So anybody who uses steam shouldn't get features because you don't like it?

Nozomi · Jan 4, 2017

ShirAhava said:
As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

You prefer the windows store over steam? i ... just wow

Bits N Pieces · Jan 4, 2017

Microsoft pushing their new operating system with exclusive features and benefits. We'll have more on this breaking story as it gets to us.....

GHG · Jan 4, 2017

ShirAhava said:
As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

If by stream you mean the stream of shit that Microsoft has consistently served up to PC gamers then I'm in agreement.

This move will only serve to shoot themselves in the foot further.

Ricerocket · Jan 4, 2017

Aklamarth said:
Let's wait and see WHAT exactly is "Game Mode". Maybe is some UWP API feature so it can only support that ?

Someone posted some shots, it closes or maybe it freezes app like Visual Studios running in the background eating up 20% cpu and 2GB ram and that is all.

Any PC gamer would know they can control-alt-del and check task manager.

tuxfool · Jan 4, 2017

ShirAhava said:
As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

What do you like then?

cakely · Jan 4, 2017

ShirAhava said:
As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

What is stream and why do you hate it so much?

Delusibeta · Jan 4, 2017

ShirAhava said:
As a PC Gamer that HATES stream.....GOOD!

And as a PC gamer that hates broken crap, this is bad, because UWP is broken crap that Microsoft should abandon ASAP.

Son of a Witch · Jan 4, 2017

RionaaM said:
Are you pretending there's nothing wrong with UWAs when it comes to gaming?

Whatever issues remain can be fixed. UWP is the future and Microsoft has been very vocal about it in the past few months.

OnionPowder · Jan 4, 2017

Ricerocket said:
Someone posted some shots, it closes or maybe it freezes app like Visual Studios running in the background eating up 20% cpu and 2GB ram and that is all.

Any PC gamer would know they can control-alt-del and check task manager.

ctrl+shift+esc is much quicker

PantsuJo · Jan 4, 2017

No way I'm going to buy this UWP shit.

Bye MS

Tecnniqe · Jan 4, 2017

Linkark07 said:
As far as I'm aware, they can't force developers to use that feature for release games in W10.

I don't know, but at the same time I don't see anything specifically saying its completely exclusive to the store system either and can't be used on say, Steam applications..

Unless I'm missing it, all I see is "ifs and buts".

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