OnionPowder
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Yeah, 12 years ago. Imagine launching a platform without looking at what steam did over 10+ years and lacking in almost all features compared to it.
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Windows 10's Game Mode exclusive to UWP
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Yeah, 12 years ago. Imagine launching a platform without looking at what steam did over 10+ years and lacking in almost all features compared to it.
UWP has become infinitely more open since it's inception of WinRT in W8.
Every week theres a new blunder by MS as their win 10 uwp initiative.Microsoft and PC gaming.
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entirely because the PC market as a whole rejected it. this needs to continue until UWP is either at least as open and accessible as win32 or abandoned entirely.
VibratingDonkey
Member
It creates weird, silly pickles that shouldn't be.
When Gears 4 is 374:- on Xbox, I go "ooh, that's a decent deal", then I realize it's Play Anywhere and I'd effectively be buying the UWPC version, and then I don't buy it.
Doubt I'll ever buy a PC game from the Windows/Xbox/Microsoft Store. They charge more for a worse product/service that's aiming to restrict PC gaming. Would be like paying someone to punch me in the face.
I'm just holding onto hope that Windows Store sales will be rubbish until Microsoft feels compelled to make Quantum Break the default publishing strategy.
It's not the greatest for gaming period. They're trying to create a walled garden again. Nothing about this is in the best interest of players or developers. I'd be incredibly worried about it if they weren't so hilariously incompetent.
That's because what you want is good competition, with products of relatively equal value. Competition from products with very negative value isn't real competition, it's just something that drags the market down. It's like how the automobile market doesn't benefit by having more lemons available for sale.
Bear in mind that Microsoft is trying to something very different from what Steam does, and that this is part and parcel of the problems with it.
That article isnt very clear, it starts off saying that Game mode *might* be a method of automatically prioritising system resources for a running game.
Then it goes on to say that it's a set of UWP SDK features that allow a PC game to go on and run on Scorpio / Xbox One more easily.
What is perhaps more interesting is that the Project Scorpio Target profile is 4K @60FPS.
Then it goes on to say that it's a set of UWP SDK features that allow a PC game to go on and run on Scorpio / Xbox One more easily.
What is perhaps more interesting is that the Project Scorpio Target profile is 4K @60FPS.
Well a free copy for my PC after i bought a copy for my console is pretty nice for me as a player.
That and they want a mobile App Store so Windows Mobile can go anywhere but down. The latter is more important to them.
Aren't PC digital games priced like console games for this feature though. Nice bonus for Microsoft.
LukasTaves
Member
I know right. It's almost as if a feature developed for uwp on console could be easily ported to pc easily on uwp. Truly outrageous!
The win central leak also talks about how the feature is tied into making scalable games.
I'm guessing game mode is just one of the many features ms is bringing to their dev tools, making games auto scale, not just framerate and resolution but even dynamic settings seems also a big part of it.
That was not a real screenshot, more like a mock up of how the feature would work.
The win central leak also talks about how the feature is tied into making scalable games.
I'm guessing game mode is just one of the many features ms is bringing to their dev tools, making games auto scale, not just framerate and resolution but even dynamic settings seems also a big part of it.
Good thing the PC gaming market hasn't been kind to MS then. If that's the future, I'd rather stay in the past. Whatever issues remain can be fixed already by using Win32 programs instead.
The UWP is about more than gaming. It's about how they are unifying Windows 10 and it's architecture across different machines.
It will most likely improve over time too. It's also their new platform, they ditched Win32 so this is it now as far as their support goes.
The OP should have included more of the article to at least explain what game mode is. This just looks to be a tool chain to make it easier to develop a game for Windows 10 and Xbox. We've known forever that this was their goal but people are just shitting on this news for no real reason.
Well, I very much doubt it will actually do much anyway on a PC with a decent amount of RAM and no silly CPU-intensive background processes. And I wouldn't want some software to decide what software runs on my PC at any point, I'm capable of doing that on my own
As I said before, creating a feature that can be used with less than 1% of the game library on the platform just seems like something MS would do right now.
So that's what this basically is? The only time I have a load on my PC aside from a game is when I running test virtual environments on VMWare. Other than I'm probably utilizing 1-3 percenthe of my RAM and CPU.
I was hoping that this was some coding to the metal magician type stuff.
It's not even almost all. There is literally not one thing that Windows Store does close to as well as Steam. Even the store itself is designed even more poorly and I didn't think that was possible. Trying to find the base game when there is also a Deluxe and Ultimate edition bundle is a nightmare on WinStore. I own Forza Horizon 3 and if you ever go to install it, you have to search the store for the game then click down through about 3 levels of bundles before you get to the base game to install it.
Fucking trash
LukasTaves
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Yeah, the article is a bit of a mess, but those leaks usually are, the person likely has no understanding of what the info they got actually means.
But it's nice to know that game mode already is on xbone, and might have been used for BF1. Ms did say a few years back that it would give more back to the console further than the Kinect reservation and this might be it.
LukasTaves
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You definitely don't need to do that. You can install through your purchases, and even if you search and hit a deluxe or ultra edition they all have direct links to the regular one.
Wait, what? That doesn't sound true at all...
You can't go into your profile and then My Library? Your games should be listed there.
Except its for devs not for consumers but keep hating away boy-o
I will never understand Windows Store apologists. The service is shit and Microsoft's end-goal is shit and should be shat upon. If people drank this much kool-aid back when they wanted to implement GFWL and paying for online gaming (HAH) they might just have gone through with it, because GFWL as a platform sure was "stronger" (or at least there were more games on the service) than the Windows Store currently is.
yay for scrambled filenames ... wonder when they will kill the explorer as it will be useless when this happens
its not really a competition , currently its more like a bonus feature for Xbox One gamers and deployment simplification for mobile/tablet app devs
yeah but even the ancient green steam was miles ahead of Win10 store ... in terms of actual PC features (and stuff PC gaming is known and loved for) it means completely killing tem and making UWP to something that so far seems like closed subsystem inside of Windows 10 aka "Xbox one as an APP"
.... starting to think that Scorpio will be just PC inside abox with XBOX label running crippled version of Windows 10
InsaneTiger
Member
No, that's okay. I'll just ignore the few worthwhile MS exclusives there are. Steam continues to be the best.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I used to think that, but to be honest, with a lot of the OSS moves Microsoft has made (.Net Core, VS Code on Linux), the cultural changes and shift Satya Nadella has moved Microsoft in I truly think it's more "Microsoft want to offer a curated, safe computing environment" as an alternative.
Except, you know, the stuff that won't end up back-ported to Win32, and will require, sooner or later, UWP as a minimum target for implementation., Win32's time may not be done for several years, but there was a time they said the same about Win16 stuff, that's gone, the same will happen with Win32 one day, that's progress.
Well, there's one potential problem.
Head.spawn
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I'm not sure wtf you guys expected... did you want MS to mandate that every PC game supports it? Because that would go over well.
that's not a different thing. making computing a safe and curated environment necessarily kills openness and options.
UWP and the Store are separate. Adobe has already released a UWP application that is not distributed through the store.
https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/adobe-experience-design-cc-beta-now-available-on-windows-10/
shotgunbob04
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Say no to UWP.
Bolivar687
Banned
I'm confused
Good thing Microsoft doesn't compete with the Steam from 12 years ago.
That Steam was crap then doesn't excuse Win 10 store now. Technology and the world doesn't work that way.
funkystudent
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Given the shit show a lot of UWP games optimization wise are I wonder if running under "game mode" would even help all that much.
pls god no
it's almost like they're bolting on features that don't have to be UWP exclusive while ignoring the massive fundamental problems that people have with the platform
Like that is tight to UWP only games. And to be fair only Horizon 3 and QB were abit messy.
Mechanized
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UWP is the only reason a lot of MS exclusives are on pc, so I'm fine with it, as shit as it can be. But this seems to be a feature that could be agnostic to whatever game launcher you're using.
This is always a fantastic argument.
Imagine if someone released a flagship smartphone in 2017 which couldn't install 3rd party applications and defended with "Well neither could the iPhone when it launched!"
Tortahegeszto
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Well this feature that sounds like a malware infected "pc booster" crap from a shady download page will ceartainly improve my opinion on their glorified fartapp store/closed bs platform.
R_thanatos
Member
I love how improve is between quotes.
We wouldn't have those reaction if that was nearly a half step in the right direction.
Pro-tip: Microsoft is still going in the wrong direction
Ps: microsoft need to challenge the current market , not to try to create another market that only obey to their own rules. The faster they realise that , the faster the windows store has a chance of staying alive
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