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Abyss Odyssey |OT| A Warlock's Nightmare From Which I Am Trying To Awake

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Ozium

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Easy_D said:
Super end game spoilers for Zeno Clash 2 - Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxsoKEv8YOw#t=556

The landmass you see is Chile
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Yeah, OK.. but how does that mean it takes place there? I thought it was just showing the Earth and that
Zenoark isn't some alien land, which is then further explained by it being an experimental colony. I figured they just showed Chile as an easter egg... I don't think it confirms Zeno Clash taking place there)


edit: this game needs trading cards
 
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Vazra

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Ozium said:
Yeah, OK.. but how does that mean it takes place there? I thought it was just showing the Earth and that
Zenoark isn't some alien land, which is then further explained by it being an experimental colony. I figured they just showed Chile as an easter egg... I don't think it confirms Zeno Clash taking place there)


edit: this game needs trading cards
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And another sequel.
 
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Easy_D

never left the stone age
Ozium said:
Yeah, OK.. but how does that mean it takes place there? I thought it was just showing the Earth and that
Zenoark isn't some alien land, which is then further explained by it being an experimental colony. I figured they just showed Chile as an easter egg... I don't think it confirms Zeno Clash taking place there)


edit: this game needs trading cards
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There's also this:

Steam User Forums said:
I also just thought of something; in one of the stones, they say that Zenozoik is protected by;
a desert in the north
the ocean to the west
mountains to the east
and frigid temperatures in the south

Isn't that all true of Chile, as well? The atacama desert, the south of chile is close to the south pole, the andes and then the ocean?
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I'm a believer for sure :D
 
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Messofanego

Banned
It makes sense how absolutely surreal Zeno Clash is considering Jodorowsky is from the same country.

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Oh wow, just found out that Zeno Clash got the Dead End Thrills treatment!!!
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Vazra

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Messofanego said:
Sheeeeeit, didn't realise this was going to be available at launch (remember a while back them saying it might be post-release)!
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It will be at launch but offline. They will patch it a bit later. I like how varied the cast seems in speed and strength lord.

Edit: I guess console version will get it once they are done implementing the online. If PC Only then ouch for those who wanted Vs Mode.
 
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destx

Member
Mmm, I just bought this, I was going to wait but then I found out it has online coop and a redonk discount right now. The combat and art look super great.
 
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Corpekata

Banned
Not sure where the trader got it that I just got it from but I snagged a prerelease copy for a few keys. So I dunno, they might be being a little liberal with their press copies or something. I'll post some impressions after diving in, though that may not be until tomorrow evening.
 
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Ozium

Member
destx said:
Mmm, I just bought this, I was going to wait but then I found out it has online coop and a redonk discount right now. The combat and art look super great.
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you also get a soundtrack for pre-ordering on Steam, along with the discount... if anyone is at all interested in this game best buy it now...

unless it sucks

which it won't
 
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Vazra

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Corpekata said:
Not sure where the trader got it that I just got it from but I snagged a prerelease copy for a few keys. So I dunno, they might be being a little liberal with their press copies or something. I'll post some impressions after diving in, though that may not be until tomorrow evening.
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Boy post already!
 
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Corpekata

Banned
Only played a little past the prologue. Spoilering for the sensitive. I haven't followed what exactly is common knowledge about the game yet so some of this may be known already.

Game is a bit harder than I expected, the whole Super Smash Bros influence is apparent even early on. Combat is fun but I can see it putting some people off until they get more abilities.

May want to die early on (outside of the prologue). I got my second special ability from doing so, not sure if it is randomized or what but it's a good one that I can see using with combos a lot more than the basic one you get.

When I died I spawned as generic soldier. You can play as them in order to get to an altar, where you'll be resurrected. I never reached one though.

Also didn't know you were limited to just the 1 playable character at the start. Guess you have to unlock Ghost Monk and the other woman?

Music is fan flipping tastic.
 
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Altazor

Member
Oh man, there's a moment in the 7 minute gameplay video where a very recognizable chilean landmark appears
it's not the Abyss
and I'm like "oh god, I never thought I'd be able to see that place in a videogame".

It's the Cerro Santa Lucía (Santa Lucía Hill) and, from what I gather, it's one of the entrances to the Abyss in the game. They did a bloody good job of translating the beauty of the place. Feels good man.
 
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Vazra

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Corpekata said:
Only played a little past the prologue. Spoilering for the sensitive. I haven't followed what exactly is common knowledge about the game yet so some of this may be known already.

Game is a bit harder than I expected, the whole Super Smash Bros influence is apparent even early on. Combat is fun but I can see it putting some people off until they get more abilities.

May want to die early on (outside of the prologue). I got my second special ability from doing so, not sure if it is randomized or what but it's a good one that I can see using with combos a lot more than the basic one you get.

When I died I spawned as generic soldier. You can play as them in order to get to an altar, where you'll be resurrected. I never reached one though.

Also didn't know you were limited to just the 1 playable character at the start. Guess you have to unlock Ghost Monk and the other woman?

Music is fan flipping tastic.
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Hope to see you posting more on what you find. The game difficulty is selected at random but there is a easy route where you will get less hard stages. (this was known thanks to the first 7 minutes of the game and Steam Community talk).
The soldier was known but not mentioned on the thread
The 1 playable character I think it changes on later. Also the power ups and abilities among other things are random.

Altazor said:
Oh man, there's a moment in the 7 minute gameplay video where a very recognizable chilean landmark appears
it's not the Abyss
and I'm like "oh god, I never thought I'd be able to see that place in a videogame".

It's the Cerro Santa Lucía (Santa Lucía Hill) and, from what I gather, it's one of the entrances to the Abyss in the game. They did a bloody good job of translating the beauty of the place. Feels good man.
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They talked about it in one of their vids. It is nice to see a different place being represented instead of generic US or JP city.
 
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Ozium

Member
Altazor said:
Oh man, there's a moment in the 7 minute gameplay video where a very recognizable chilean landmark appears
it's not the Abyss
and I'm like "oh god, I never thought I'd be able to see that place in a videogame".

It's the Cerro Santa Lucía (Santa Lucía Hill) and, from what I gather, it's one of the entrances to the Abyss in the game. They did a bloody good job of translating the beauty of the place. Feels good man.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y013MdiPuhs
 
Coreda

Coreda

Member
Hyped for this game. Does it work well with KB/M? I notice some screenshots and trailers feature controller button graphics for prompts.
 
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Vazra

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Coreda said:
Hyped for this game. Does it work well with KB/M? I notice some screenshots and trailers feature controller button graphics for prompts.
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They say it is compatible with Keyboard but they do recommend a controller. We'll see.
 
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Corpekata

Banned
Getting into the groove. Most runs I could barely make it to the like 4th room which has a miniboss. Last run I made it like 10+ rooms and collected two new abilities. Combat gets quite fun when you've got a full arsenal and you get into the groove. I can still see the combat feeling frustrating to some people but those that give it a chance will probably dig it.

I unlocked the Ghost Monk, but I'm not sure what exactly unlocked him. It was after that long run so it may be distance? Killing the minibosses? Collecting a certain amount of the Warlock pages? Unsure.

There's a yellow room on the map sometimes, worth going to, it's basically a treasure vault room. There's a wishing well that you can desposit gold into. My effect seemed to have been some sort of trial room as the next room I spawned as this creepy see through fire mummy and couldn't switch back until I cleared the room.

Speakling of the mosnters you unlock, you get them by using your mana ability. You'll do a short range blast which will hurt and debuff any enemy it hits. if you kill the enemy you can then pick up their soul. Some are quite useful, some are fairly lame, but it's worth always having at least one because they have their own health bars so you can save your hero's health for when it is really needed.

Encountered the Devil character and he gave me some ability that...I'm not sure what it does? Doesn't appear to do anything on first glance. I didn't want to mess with it too much since I was on a good run but will look into it later.

For some reason I was getting helped out by soldiers randomly at times. I thought maybe at first it was on levels where I'd done something (you can find dying soldiers) but it seemed to be pretty random.

Not a huge fan of the lack of saving, that long run I did seemed to take be about an hour so you'll need to have some time on your hands if you want to make a real run at the game.
 
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Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Corpekata said:
Not a huge fan of the lack of saving, that long run I did seemed to take be about an hour so you'll need to have some time on your hands if you want to make a real run at the game.
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Ugh, first disappointing thing I've heard about the game. Even roguelikes whose sole point is for you to make it through in one run should at least have temporary saves that delete when you load them.
 
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Istaerion

Member
Corpekata said:
Not a huge fan of the lack of saving, that long run I did seemed to take be about an hour so you'll need to have some time on your hands if you want to make a real run at the game.
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Is there no saving at all... or is the save functionality something akin to Diablo III where dungeon/story progress is constantly reset but you retain your levels and whatnot?
 
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Corpekata

Banned
It's like Binding of Isaac, complete the run or start over if you quit. You do save in the character progression sense though (gold, abilities, level).
 
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Vazra

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Istaerion said:
Is there no saving at all... or is the save functionality something akin to Diablo III where dungeon/story progress is constantly reset but you retain your levels and whatnot?
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It seems you keep levels and abilities but not the stage progress. I shall ask around and see if I can get some info on that.

Also the game can be beaten quickly once you know what you're doing from what it seems. A Hard run is usually shorter and it could take around 1 hour to do once you got good on the game or so the developers said and the easier route would take longer times. I see the game will have leaderboards so I guess I'll see many people doing speed runs on the game.
 
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Istaerion

Member
Corpekata said:
It's like Binding of Isaac, complete the run or start over if you quit. You do save in the character progression sense though (gold, abilities, level).
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Gravelord_Nito said:
It seems you keep levels and abilities but not the stage progress. I shall ask around and see if I can get some info on that.
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Alright, that was my main worry. It's still pretty disappointing to hear that stage progress gets completely reset, but I'll reserve my opinion regarding that until I see more of just how they work.

In any event, thank you both for the information/assistance!
 
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Vazra

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Istaerion said:
Alright, that was my main worry. It's still pretty disappointing to hear that stage progress gets completely reset, but I'll reserve my opinion regarding that until I see more of just how they work.

In any event, thank you both for the information/assistance!
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I think it would be a big problem if it takes too much time to acquire all the necessary abilities but if it is at a adequate pace to get them and if the player understands the mechanics of the game quickly it might be a big issue. I know Atlus likes publishing hard games and this seems to follow their philosophy but it would be nice if they made some save rooms and if you die that save room would be removed to follow the permadeath aspect of it. (Still keeping the obtained abilities)
 
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Ozium

Member
smh at people mad at no saving.. they've said from the beginning this has rogue(lite) elements...

I welcome it.
 
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Vazra

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Ozium said:
smh at people mad at no saving.. they've said from the beginning this has rogue(lite) elements...

I welcome it.
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People said it was only procedural content and no permadeath before correcting me.
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Im ok with it as I got tons of time to play it.
 
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Dr Dogg

Member
I wonder what the chances of this getting a preload are? Might just end up spamming steam://install/255070 into the browser all day Tuesday.
 
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Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Ozium said:
smh at people mad at no saving.. they've said from the beginning this has rogue(lite) elements...

I welcome it.
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Like I said, I only want temp saving. The kind that's tantamount to pausing the game and resuming later, except you can turn your system off. It literally has no affect on the progression or flow of the game at all, and you can't save-scum it.
 
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Vazra

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Dr Dogg said:
I wonder what the chances of this getting a preload are? Might just end up spamming steam://install/255070 into the browser all day Tuesday.
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They wont preload. They already said they will be fine tuning until the final day so I guess the ones playing now might be getting updates as they go at it.
 
Coreda

Coreda

Member
I wonder how long the stages are. If they were manageable no checkpoint-like saves would be okay I suppose, but if it's easy enough to die mid-way it could get frustrating.

Given they've made what looks to be a great game this far, I have less concern it will be a major issue. Still, we'll see.
 
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Munin

Member
I love how the combat and art looks but I wish this was a properly "designed" game with a full fledged world like a Metroidvania or Dark Souls and not a coffee break roguelike (although of course a 1 hr playthrough is stretching that definition a bit). I suppose they don't have the budget for that so here's hoping this sells well and gets an expanded sequel.
 
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Vazra

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Munin said:
I love how the combat and art looks but I wish this was a properly "designed" game with a full fledged world like a Metroidvania or Dark Souls and not a coffee break roguelike (although of course a 1 hr playthrough is stretching that definition a bit). I suppose they don't have the budget for that so here's hoping this sells well and gets an expanded sequel.
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1 hour if you are experienced with the game and playing on the hard route of the game. First run will take some time to do it. We'll see how that goes.
 
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Corpekata

Banned
The altars are checkpoints so you respawn once if you die. The items you need for them are called Camp tokens, they're pretty rare drops but the second base you open has a vendor that sells them (first base sells weapons). There's an NPC that will move you between bases for 10 gold in case you need both weapons and Camp tokens. They don't act as save points. There's multiple tiers of the token, but not sure what they mean. They're supposed to be like "your camp is better protected" but the upper tiers were too expensive for me to find out if that means more respawns or what. There are also random vendors spread throughout but their inventory is random so it can't be counted on.
 
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Vazra

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Corpekata said:
The altars are checkpoints so you respawn once if you die. The items you need for them are called Camp tokens, they're pretty rare drops but the second base you open has a vendor that sells them (first base sells weapons). They don't act as save points. There's multiple tiers of the token, but not sure what they mean. They're supposed to be like "your camp is better protected" but the upper tiers were too expensive for me to find out if that means more respawns or what. There are also random vendors spread throughout but their inventory is random so it can't be counted on.
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Dude can you stream the game or record a video and post on youtube showcasing your skills which hopefully are better than the guys on the 7 minute video?
 
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