It's even easier if you setup right next to construction on the street where it's nearly impossible not to jaywalk. That's a fantastic way to meet your quota.
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ASU Professor slammed to ground after jaywalking; charged with assaulting officer
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It's even easier if you setup right next to construction on the street where it's nearly impossible not to jaywalk. That's a fantastic way to meet your quota.
Rocket Scientist
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Don't like the professors tone, seems like she thinks she's above the law. The police officer used excessive force, but can't really sympathize much with the prof.
Such a badass you are. Here's a cookie.
She had a right to be outraged, still should have complied with his orders and things would have gone much better for her. Where do people like her think doing these things will get them? I just don't understand. "Hmm let's fight this cop, that'll make him let me go!"
CassidyIzABeast
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You couldn't show him the ID and give him a good talking to at the same time?
I never get why people just don't comply with the officer, and the. Come back to sue later. I don't know, maybe I am just nervous in general around police because I am a minority male and got the "police" talk from my dad almost every time I left the house as a teenager.
Fighting cops to their face won't accomplish shit. Being mad at them is like being mad at troops for being murderers. Don't attack the the body, go after the head.
Fighting cops to their face won't accomplish shit. Being mad at them is like being mad at troops for being murderers. Don't attack the the body, go after the head.
#notallcops
Her kick was understandable, he had reached for her skirt. That would be a reasonable response under the circumstances. 1 in 4 women are sexually abused at some point in their life, and police are known to do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. The guy was being an ass, then reached for her skirt, of course her gut reaction would be bad intentions for his reach.
If only Americans put half as much effort against police quotas as they do with fictional affirmative action quotas, shit like this wouldn't happen.
Her kick was understandable, he had reached for her skirt. That would be a reasonable response under the circumstances. 1 in 4 women are sexually abused at some point in their life, and police are known to do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. The guy was being an ass, then reached for her skirt, of course her gut reaction would be bad intentions for his reach.
If only Americans put half as much effort against police quotas as they do with fictional affirmative action quotas, shit like this wouldn't happen.
I was just comparing the outcomes of this criminal act.
Are you black?
Winterfang
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She did talk a lot of smack to that police officer. She should just ask politely to cross the street and then show her I.D and give an explanation. Or maybe that wouldn't work either, who knows with this cops.
You don't understand, she is a professor. A professor!
A cop should just know his place.
mangochutney
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Does look mighty aggressive for a whole lot of nothing.
What do Americans think of jaywalking?
Do you all laugh that such a law exists like those of us in countries where we use common sense instead?
What do Americans think of jaywalking?
Do you all laugh that such a law exists like those of us in countries where we use common sense instead?
He was justified in the way he acted and what happened after he confronted her.
But jaywalking? Come on man wtf. Looks like a bitch move coming after a lady for jaywalking.
The ASU statement is disheartening in that they don't at all support their employee, but I guess they can't seeing as technically/legally, the officer is completely in the right.
But jaywalking? Come on man wtf. Looks like a bitch move coming after a lady for jaywalking.
The ASU statement is disheartening in that they don't at all support their employee, but I guess they can't seeing as technically/legally, the officer is completely in the right.
Zoe
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Got some added longevity because of the chief's poor #firstworldproblems comparison, but otherwise it fizzled out as justified.
oxrock
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How is this a thing? I understand being approached by an officer for jaywalking is pretty bogus, but it's such a small infraction that you simply comply and get a small fee at the very most. More often then not you only get a warning for something like that. Refusing to follow orders and talking back consistently will never end in your favor. If I was a cop and I was questioning someone who was being belligerent and refusing to show identification, I would be suspicious and take my actions to the next level as well.
I really think the officer was trying to be a good guy and show her at least some courtesy. I'm fairly certain that if it were a male resisting as much as she was, that he'd of been at least tasered and possibly worse.
I really think the officer was trying to be a good guy and show her at least some courtesy. I'm fairly certain that if it were a male resisting as much as she was, that he'd of been at least tasered and possibly worse.
Kicking an officer though...?
Ajemsuhgao
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Girl didn't show ID like the cop asked, resisted arrest, and kicked him. Why would I side with her again?
I can't believe people are siding with the woman here. She should have known this would happen. What a moron.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Lady is an idiot.
Just so you know, the officer did not need to rely on this type of statute to ask for her ID. The officer witnessed the defendant break the law, as trivial as jaywalking may be, and therefore had probable cause for the arrest. This was not a Terry stop based on reasonable suspicion.
IISANDERII
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Rosa Parks says "Hello."
Particle Physicist
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I am going to assume she is black. Is that a good assumption?
EDIT
*clicked the link. yup.
EDIT
*clicked the link. yup.
Ajemsuhgao
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Though being black in this case has nothing to do with it.I am going to assume she is black. Is that a good assumption?
EDIT
*clicked the link. yup.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Jaywalking is dangerous as hell, especially at night. Is there a video of the whole thing anywhere?
The construction does make it somewhat understandable though.
The construction does make it somewhat understandable though.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
I just clicked the link. You can see how the entire street is blocked off behind them due to construction. This was absurd and it seems to me that she was targeted.
How so?
Ajemsuhgao
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How does it? She was breaking the law. He saw an easy ticket. She didn't comply with his orders, resisted arrest, etc. I don't see how her being black matters in any way. It's not like he just stopped her out of the blue and asked the see ID.
ErasureAcer
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Officer wants a few days paid leave? Start some shit that will lead to an investigation...sit back and rake in the money knowing you won't be found guilty of misconduct from the police review (they never are) unless you're bad mouthing your lesbian police chief.
No surprise race was an issue in this after reading the dialogue. Lots of people crossing the street and it's the black lady that gets singled out.
No surprise race was an issue in this after reading the dialogue. Lots of people crossing the street and it's the black lady that gets singled out.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Construction AND its a college campus. You can see other people jaywalking in the background of the video as well.
Particle Physicist
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Even in the video you see other people jaywalking in the background. Why was she stopped? How common is jaywalking actually ticketed? I have never heard of anyone actually being ticketed for it. Why was it that I immediately knew the race of the professor by just reading the title? You can also see the street completely blocked off behind them.
fuzzyreactor
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He did nothing wrong. People need to stop being insubordinate for no reason. She put herself out tot me made an example of.
Do drivers not drive with due care and attention? Do pedestrians not look where they are going?
That it is illegal to cross a road seems fucking stupid to me.
Fox Mulder
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no one got shot. How hard is it to show an ID? Jaywalking may feel like a dumb thing to get a ticket for, but it's still illegal.
I've only been pulled over twice, but could instantly tell which cop had an attitude problem and could easily lead to trouble if I didn't choose my adventure correctly.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Many drivers don't drive with due care and many pedestrians don't look when they cross roads. People are idiots.
Zoe
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Around campuses? Pedestrians have blinders and think they rule the streets.
Literally the day after that UT girl was arrested, somebody got hit by a car jaywalking on the other side of campus.
outunderthestars
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He stopped her walking in traffic. She proceeds to give the officers attitude and refuses to show Id. Officers attempt to handcuff her so they can assertain her identificatio , but she continues to resist police. She gets arrested.
Not really seeing the issue. The Thread title is simply baiting the anti-police GAF members. She wasn't slammed to the ground for jaywalking. She was slammed to the ground after refusing to show identification, refusing to be handcuffed, and kicking an officer. She was given multiple warnings, but chose to escalate the matter because she didn't like the way the cop was talking to her.
If she had simply showed him her identification, the worst the story could have been was "ASU professor ticketed for jaywalking".
Not really seeing the issue. The Thread title is simply baiting the anti-police GAF members. She wasn't slammed to the ground for jaywalking. She was slammed to the ground after refusing to show identification, refusing to be handcuffed, and kicking an officer. She was given multiple warnings, but chose to escalate the matter because she didn't like the way the cop was talking to her.
If she had simply showed him her identification, the worst the story could have been was "ASU professor ticketed for jaywalking".
He was an ass but she did break the law. Was it that hard to show her ID? You can complain after, just obey the guy and then talk to him.
I'm saying this because there are a lot of asshole cops that can get really violent (she was a woman but if it was a man it could have been worse), so it's always better to prevent getting yourself punched in the face.
I'm saying this because there are a lot of asshole cops that can get really violent (she was a woman but if it was a man it could have been worse), so it's always better to prevent getting yourself punched in the face.
Coreda
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Are you suggesting she was? Edit: I read she allegedly kicked the officer. Yeah, not the brightest idea.
I remember seeing the photo of him after the assault. Terrible.
What does showing an ID have to do with anything?
People shouldn't have to carefully choose their responses because that particular cop is an asshole. The cop should always have to adjust to the civilian.
Rocket Scientist
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I'm not American, but I don't recall reading that Rosa Parks was rude and resisted arrest. Reading into the case, it seems ironic that you mention her:
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/03/rosa_parks_i_had_been_pushed_as_far_as_i_could_stand/
The ID has everything to do with it. The cop asked to see it and she refused. That is why things escalated. She was not compliant at all throughout the entire thing. The cop reacted to her stupid actions.
In my 34 years, and the vast majority of it living in a city, I have never once seen nor heard of anyone getting stopped for jay walking. It's painfully clear to me that this is an issue of an over aggressive cop looking to pick a fight because he thinks he can get away with it. It's also precisely why police should be required to video record every interaction they are involved with.
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