Dick Justice
Banned
This just gets better and better. Wasn't that old E3 gameplay video supposedly running on PC? Or was it a PS4 devkit?
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Batman: Arkham Knight On PC Is Not Very Good [UP: WB suspends future sales until fix]
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Have we reached the point where they say they are working on DLC rather than patching the game like they did with Origins or not yet ?
The more and more I follow this thread the more I'm inclined to agree.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Images shamelessly stolen from a comment on the Eurogamer thread:
So, you guys want to see something funny? The PC version isn't just missing effects like AO - certain textures and models are entirely absent:
PC:
PS4:
PC:
PS4:
Holy fucking shit.
I am actually kind of concerned that they will NEVER get the PC version to remotely where it should be.I know its early to say that, but this is an absolute unfinished mess.
I got my copy free with one of my 970's, but if by the time I finish Wild Hunt, they haven't performed miracles on this game via patch, I am buying the PS4 version.
Straight up lie, right?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I get your sentiment but I dunno mate
BFIB
Member
I don't usually buy into the whole "Master race" discussion, however, as a gamer, I fully expect PC ports to run better than console ports. I'm OK with that, since the hardware is constantly refreshed on one end, and on consoles, we just don't have that. It is what it is.
But this just reeks of shoddy port. Hopefully it gets fixed for you PC gamers.
Stitch
Gold Member
They were uploaded in 60 FPS but there are some heavy slowdowns in the videos. Even NVIDIA didn't manage to get a stable framerate.
Real question here, why is it that with game software there never seems to be any legal action taken when the developer doesn't deliver on their end of the bargain? I've never taken the time to look into this but I know there are a lot of knowledgeable people here that might know. From my point of view, I paid for something and it turns out that it was falsely advertised and seemingly broken. How can that be OK? I've seen class action lawsuits for a lot less but I don't think I've seen it happen in gaming. I'd appreciate any insight.
That's their mistake to make. I won't buy there games till they put out good products; if they don't want to put out quaility products or any at all then I'll never play those games - their loss
EdibleExplosives
Member
I'm so glad Steam refunds now exist. This is fucking ridiculous.
blackMamba1187
Member
Much more eloquent than my response ;P
Unless you can prove that those who didn't give a shit about AO and better shaders previously are the ones who care about it now, your point is entirely moot.
demosthenes
Member
Images shamelessly stolen from a comment on the Eurogamer thread:
So, you guys want to see something funny? The PC version isn't just missing effects like AO - certain textures and models are entirely absent:
PC:
PS4:
PC:
PS4:
This has been checked in the other thread. User said that the planto are there on the occasion version.
change due to ivy?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Be sure to buy it used or rent it in Redbox. No need to support the devs on this one if they can't turn it around.
Dick Justice
Banned
On the other hand, PC gamers suck it up, and they continue to use cheap-ass porting houses on future games.
In Batman Arkham Knight for PC, players take control of the capped crusader, to drop enemies like the game drops frames. Villains so vicious, they lack a conscious like the game lacks AO and textures. When you need to even the odds, summon the batmobile and studder about Gotham with its janky controls. Investigate the disappearance of wet textures, ambient occlusion and navigate Warner Bros. massive PR spin cycle!
Featuring exclusive nvidia features like game works which is sure to leave your PC crashing. Includes an innovative DRM application known to slow down performance of games for no reason, PC and Nvidia is the place to play and experience the definitive version of Batman Arkham Knight.
Featuring exclusive nvidia features like game works which is sure to leave your PC crashing. Includes an innovative DRM application known to slow down performance of games for no reason, PC and Nvidia is the place to play and experience the definitive version of Batman Arkham Knight.
wowowow.
How deep does this go?
EDIT: Oh it's just a story thing? Also, why are those petals painted on the ground? Looks so weird.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Images shamelessly stolen from a comment on the Eurogamer thread:
So, you guys want to see something funny? The PC version isn't just missing effects like AO - certain textures and models are entirely absent:
PC:
PS4:
PC:
PS4:
Jesus H Christ, this is the definition of a shoddy port. If I hadn't have got this game with my GPU I wouldn't even touch the PC version. Just gonna power through it out of spite, these aresholes aren't getting my money for another version.
I probably could, but I've got better things to do with my time.
I was speaking generally though. In general, things like AO and shader quality being better on PC is downplayed by console GAF. in GENERAL, these things are being lauded now as part of the definitive PS4 experience.
The latter is correct. The PS4 is the better graphical showpiece (frame rate is very important to me though so, for me, it's still a sub-par experience), the former is standard fanboy crap.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Bought it already
At least they earned a spot on my permanent shit list of not buying games anymore. Right along EA and Ubisoft.
I was excited for Mad Max, i think Fury Road is the best movie thus far this year, and one of the best action movies period. But WB can shove that game up their cheap and incompetent ass.
Images shamelessly stolen from a comment on the Eurogamer thread:
So, you guys want to see something funny? The PC version isn't just missing effects like AO - certain textures and models are entirely absent:
PC:
PS4:
PC:
PS4:
Holy mother of pearl!
Sword Of Doom
Member
Why is everyone saying this?
Down the rabbit hole baby.
Applesauce
Boom! Bitch-slapped!
Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?
That looks like another shader issue....
I wonder if the shaders are just bugged, or if some were outright removed.
If it's just a story thing, then nevermind.
If there are differences that big, as in, missing assets, then i don't think they'll patch them in.
Krappadizzle
Member
You didn't take the 2-Hour Saturday Rocksteady Game Development Course? If you had you could be armchair developers like us.
This port maybe. Rocksteady could always re-do the port from another version like XB1 instead tho. I mean they certainly had a PC build mid-development at a certain point if Nvidia was adding fluff. (Kinda doubt Iron Galaxy has been working on this for that long)
We don't really know how screwed up this version actually is tho yet, but it's not uncommon for some of these to get to a point where you might as well restart. No matter how much experience a porting house could have they only care to get the game out, they don't know your codebase as well as the main studio does or how every quirk of the game is supposed to work.
What a glorious disaster. Like everyone else I don't know yet who to blame for this, but... that won't stop me from giving it a try! Bwahaha!
1st place: WB, because I've disliked their anticonsumer practices for a while now and I've been itching to find a place of honour for them in my shit list. Well, this is it: you made it guys.
2nd place: Rocksteady. I don't even care if the "suits" of WB forced then to outsource the pc port: they fucked up. It is still their baby, their logo at the start of the game.
3rd place: Iron Galaxy. Kind of feeling bad for them, since they're the easiest target. Maybe they messed up, maybe they didn't... one thing for sure is that this port is the first thing that will come to my mind whenever I see their name/logo in the future.
1st place: WB, because I've disliked their anticonsumer practices for a while now and I've been itching to find a place of honour for them in my shit list. Well, this is it: you made it guys.
2nd place: Rocksteady. I don't even care if the "suits" of WB forced then to outsource the pc port: they fucked up. It is still their baby, their logo at the start of the game.
3rd place: Iron Galaxy. Kind of feeling bad for them, since they're the easiest target. Maybe they messed up, maybe they didn't... one thing for sure is that this port is the first thing that will come to my mind whenever I see their name/logo in the future.
Well if you're not gonna back your statement up, you should refrain from making unfounded blanket statements or at least change how you convey your message to make them less 'definitive' and such. It may 'seem' like that but those two parties could very well be different people.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Here we go. Every time I see you you're fighting the good fight
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
He still thinks he's on the Gamespot System Wars forum.
There seems to be a lot of issues, but you're right, they aren't insurmountable. It's just that most people right now thinking that either WB/Rocksteady won't be willing to put forth the effort to fix this and/or the porting house won't have the necessary expertise to fix all of the issues.
Basically, peple have lost faith. Can't blame them. But I'm hoping patch 1 will restore hope! ... for all our sakes.
In my mind the issues that need to be resolved:
- Texture/LOD Streaming (probably the cause of stutter as well)
- Performance issues in Batmobile - possibly a PhysX issue, possibly some unoptimized geometry or shader while running in the batmobile?)
- Shaders bugged or missing - and not just rain effects.
- AA sucks. Need better AA.
- AO is missing. Need HBAO+!
- Depth of field appears to be of lower quality.
- Improved performance on lower end hardware.
- GRAPHICS OPTIONS. God damn it, film grain is ugly. Blur is ugly. Need more optiosn to turn this stuff down/off.
It's a long list, but it's not AC:Unity long.
Perhaps so.. but they would still be console GAF.
I take your point though, it doesn't necessarily mean hypocrisy is the end result. And although I implied that, it's not really my main point.
My main point is that some people are perfeclty happy with playing the copy of the game that ISN'T a graphical showpiece, and it's beyond childish (and pointless) to be mad at them for doing so - this applies to BOTH console gamers, and PC gamers.
Teleporter
Junior Member
I see Sony bad figer all around this... PC Gaming is a treat! ELIMINATE!!! ELIMINATE!!!
mullet2000
Member
Had I bought my 970 a week earlier I'd be right there with you, mate.
Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just passing by for a personal attack?
TheSlySoul
Member
Why is the PS4 version so much better than PC?
WB dun goofed!
WB dun goofed!
Prime crotch
Banned
Did WB really just kick a copy of the source code to Iron Galaxy and said "get it done, quick" ? Cause that's what it looks like
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