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Batman: Arkham Knight On PC Is Not Very Good [UP: WB suspends future sales until fix]
- Thread starter XANDER CAGE
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You were lucky.
Alright, a couple hours in now and I've had nearly zero issues. Game runs and looks great on my 4GB 670 at near max settings and capped at 30. Yeah there's little stuff like missing textures but overall it's pretty good. I understand that it's a shit port by normal standards, but I'm not seeing the reason by this insane backlash. I must just be lucky or something.
Full specs:
i7-2600k @ 4.2
GTX 670 4GB
8GB RAM
Installed on HD
Windows 8.1
Full specs:
i7-2600k @ 4.2
GTX 670 4GB
8GB RAM
Installed on HD
Windows 8.1
Ultimadrago
Member
I'm playing Witcher 3 still, so I'm almost grateful for this conclusion. Now I have a reason to hold Batman off while I finish!
lordfuzzybutt
Member
That is much better than me. I got 9.
i got this far before a hard crash to desktop
matrix-cat
Member
My 2GB 670 stutters hard. So hard I'm honestly surprised when the game unfreezes and keeps going. Three seconds or more of a frozen screen before it returns to business as usual. I honestly don't think I actually get framerate drops; it's either thirty frames a second or three seconds a frame, and seemingly nothing in between.
I tried turning all the graphical settings down and it didn't help, but now I've turned them back up and it seems like the textures have stayed at 'Low'. So... that's great.
Gemüsepizza;169743764 said:Steamdb says something about a patch?
https://steamdb.info/app/208650/history/
But no idea what that means lol.
Ironically, the description of this depot has the word "QA" in it.
ISee
Member
I think FF 14 - Online did something similar.
Also I do not think someone's head is going to roll.
They had to know how bad their game was on PC before release, they just locked the game to 30 and decided to go for it because the masses don't care/know...
But there were two flaws in their system: First more people care/know then publishers are willing to accept and second (even more important) steams new 'FU I can get my money back' system. And that forced them to suspend the game, because a large enough number of people started to return it. And that is great!
If just Sony and Microsoft could ebmrace such refund policys on their online platfroms we would have more reasonable releases for big AAA games.
But I highly doubt they care enough and in the end this is going to hurt the PC platform. Publishers will stop releasing stuff on PC because PC gamers are just evil, pirating idiots who can't tell a good port from a bad port and always ill-use the refund system. Or they all move on to Origin/UPlay... *sigh*
Barrow Roll
Member
GMG now honoring ALL refund requests:
http://blog.playfire.com/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-pc-pulled-from-sale-refunds.html
Submitted mine and ordered the PS4 version on Amazon. What a relief.
http://blog.playfire.com/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-pc-pulled-from-sale-refunds.html
Submitted mine and ordered the PS4 version on Amazon. What a relief.
I'm glad they pulled it, I wanted the game but was going to buy at the back end of next week (after pay day) in the hope that if I played it and it ran awful, they'd have the 14 days after I bought it to fix it before I'd refund it.
For what its worth, a colleague of mine who has pretty much the same PC as me has it and reports it runs fine for him, even with Gameworks on and unlocked FPS, yet I've seen some posts on here with the same specs and it doesn't... strange.
His specs are:
i7 4790k
GTX 970 G1
8gb Ram
Windows 8.1
Installed game on SSD and only has SSD's in his machine so page file is on SSD too.
I have exactly the same except I have an ASUS strix 970.
Glad they've taken the option for me to buy it away, I'll go back to the Witcher.
For what its worth, a colleague of mine who has pretty much the same PC as me has it and reports it runs fine for him, even with Gameworks on and unlocked FPS, yet I've seen some posts on here with the same specs and it doesn't... strange.
His specs are:
i7 4790k
GTX 970 G1
8gb Ram
Windows 8.1
Installed game on SSD and only has SSD's in his machine so page file is on SSD too.
I have exactly the same except I have an ASUS strix 970.
Glad they've taken the option for me to buy it away, I'll go back to the Witcher.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
This is similar what I was getting. Not really much stutter, and when using the car it was going down to 20 sometimes, but not those crazy stops other people are getting. I have it all as high as I could with all gameworks on (off didnt make adifference for me) and the game locked to 30.
i7 4970K at 4GHz with 970 (not overclocked), also didnt install it on the ssd (didnt have enough space becuase of the witcher). Windows 7 and 8gb. The whole PC is only a few weeks old, dont know if that makes any difference on performance.
Still fuck that type of performance and not having "no blur" options in game, and all those missing effects when I can run the witcher 3 at 80fps on ultra.
Going to wait for them to fix it before even getting near it.
EDIT:
Nearly exactly the same rig as the friend of the poster above, and works similar to him. mmmm...
Jeff Stephen
Member
Just got wind of this, unfortunately PayPal has a policy with refunds past 60 days. Store credit it is then.
Are you running normal textures? I get stuttering with normal (didn't mess with the ini), and low run smooth on my end because it would use less than 2gig vram, but running on normal will cause stuttering, just as they said on their forum about 3gig card being minimum or else it will run like shit.
Low texture really look like ass though but I can indeed play it until the performance degrade for no reason after 20minutes or whatever.
RipperGrim
Member
They are actually stopping sales? What a fuck up this has been. The fact that they allowed it to be sold in the first place is just telling. Tried to get away with it and hoping people wouldn't backlash too hard.
I hate how the consumer has to be outraged first before they actually fix any of the problems instead of them looking at the game before release and fixing them, it's becoming too common an occurrence.
I hate how the consumer has to be outraged first before they actually fix any of the problems instead of them looking at the game before release and fixing them, it's becoming too common an occurrence.
Dear god this is gonna take awhile isn't it?
I think this could be months, rather than weeks.
RipperGrim
Member
I do too, once the money started to leave them they leaped into action. It's the only explanation as to why decided to stop selling now instead of actually fixing the game before release. Case in point, Mortal Kombat X
Let me think, the very large corporation or the small developer?
How does a GMG refund work if you have activated the game on steam, an independent system, and installed it? I havent played a second of the game, just wondering how they could prevent someone from activating/installing, asking for a refund and still having the game in their library?
I would assume they'll give Valve a list of keys to deactivate or something as I can't see them refunding AND letting people keep their copies. I could be wrong though.
[Edit] Confirmed
Barrow Roll
Member
Your key will be deactivated after you get a refund. First comment on the GMG blog post:
http://blog.playfire.com/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-pc-pulled-from-sale-refunds.html
So, when they put this game back up for sale, will it have a new store page? I ask because it occurred to me that they might have stopped selling it as a way to wipe all of those negative reviews so that once they put up an actual working version, it won't be bogged down with a sub 30% rating. I'm sure that's not the only reason, but I guarantee that their marketing department is looking for any way they can to reset that score.
phant0m
Member
Unless you're low on disk space, probably makes more sense to just wait and install the patch, yeah?
ShadowNate
Member
They most likely won't.
They could do this, but no one will appreciate another dick move from them, and they are well aware of that by now. And if they did, they would probably be forced to auto-upgrade anyone that would still own the vanilla version to the new one, so if they screw that one up too, they'll have to deal with a similar situation, if not way more angry gamers.
For the record, afaik Steam allows users to revise their reviews of a game, so if they somehow manage to sort out the mess that the game is, there is some hope (for them) that a few gamers will go back and change their review scores.
Aztechnology
Member
Just submitted my refund request for the premium edition. It's really sad that the game is In the state it's in. It's going to severely impact it's success on the PC for both the base game and DLC. AFAIK PC sales in the Arkham series have been extremely high, they accounted for nearly half of all AC sales right? The decisions WB made seem incredibly foolish.
i got this far before a hard crash to desktop
Lucky one, eh?
I couldn't even download it without it corrupting my install and redownloading. Went through that three times before I gave up and put in for a refund.
If that's the case then they damaged the game beyond repair. Not a lot of people are going to bother to update their review.
Serves them right.
Robobandit
Member
Refund request sent.
Schweinehund
Member
This is really irritating as it occurred to me that by the time I can actually play this game I'll probably be spoiled the Arkham Knight's identity and other story plot beats. This game is permanently fucking ruined :/.
In addition even if I do get a refund and decide to get the ps4 version I'll be paying full price and won't get preorder dlc. Fuck that. WB needs to do more.
In addition even if I do get a refund and decide to get the ps4 version I'll be paying full price and won't get preorder dlc. Fuck that. WB needs to do more.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
So yeah, the "crash on evening the odds aka batmobile of boot to desktop" somehow resolved itself and I've been able to play more. I installed the latest Nvidia drivers, tweaked the cache limits, and unlocked 60fps cap. And basically I get 40 - 60 fps with little to no stuttering. Only certain events really tank the framerate, like detailed vistas pushing the draw distance, or burnouts rendering the GameWorks smoke effect. But I can more or less fly or drive around the city (very early in the game though before other parts open up) with fewer stuttering and data streaming issues than both City and Origins. Hell if I'm walking around the streets or casually driving I'm getting 50 - 60 fps.
That being said:
- As with everyone, no rain effect on surfaces
- And no ambient occlusions, which would be assisting performance in this case
- Texture quality streaming isn't terrible, but noticeable on some objects (UE3 is notorious for this though)
- Crash error every time I quit the game because...reasons?
That being said:
- As with everyone, no rain effect on surfaces
- And no ambient occlusions, which would be assisting performance in this case
- Texture quality streaming isn't terrible, but noticeable on some objects (UE3 is notorious for this though)
- Crash error every time I quit the game because...reasons?
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
The game clearly doesnt want you to quit lol
Batman Arkham Knight |OT| Not The Game Gotham Deserves
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The story can't possibly be the sole reason why you find enjoyment in these Arkham games, well maybe it is... I would feel terrible if that was the case for me.
Schweinehund
Member
The sole reason? No.
I'd say it's a even bigger reason now considering they removed challenge rooms.
Schnozberry
Member
I'm in the same boat, except mine seems to exit gracefully. One thing that is alarming though is that I have 16GB of RAM and after hours of play the game was taking up well over 7GB. I don't know about VRAM usage since I don't have any utilities installed at the moment, but I'm guessing on machines with 8GB of RAM or less the game is puking all over itself due to garbage collection issues or something causing a memory leak. The lack of Ambient Occusion is sort of bizarre, because all the UE3 engine flags to turn it on are present in the engine and game ini files, unless there is some kind of override in place somewhere else that I didn't notice. I have a 5820k and 980ti running at stock clocks, if anybody cares.
If anyone is having problems with frequent hard crashes and use Nvidia: Try disabling Gameworks Fog + Gameworks Interactive Debris.
I was getting frequent hard crashes, soon as I disabled both those features no more crashes and I played for 5+ hours straight.
If they're already disabled, well.. It was pulled for a reason.
I was getting frequent hard crashes, soon as I disabled both those features no more crashes and I played for 5+ hours straight.
If they're already disabled, well.. It was pulled for a reason.
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