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[VincentMatts]

Have they said whats going to happen for the Pro? Hopefully next patch is soon.

 

[The Last Wizard]

Have they said whats going to happen for the Pro? Hopefully next patch is soon.

They won't say anything, the contract with MS prevents them.

 

[nowifenolife]

The only time I've noticed worse IQ is the Victory screen at the end of a round. The res seems to drop really low there.

this is the only time i noticed it too. i used to look forward to that bit pre patch 1.04 so i could buzz of the sharpness and detail of the soldier and ground.

now it just blurs, maybe they have done that bit on purpose?

 

[cooldawn]

Have they said whats going to happen for the Pro? Hopefully next patch is soon.

I've been playing this after a tiny break and the frame-rate is all over the place on PS4 Pro.

It's horrid.

EDIT: Playing Conquest.

 

[AgentOtaku]

They also change the brightness(?) when moving and stopping again. Like getting brighter, then darker again, back to brighter, and so on.
Could this be related to the "improved TAA"?
https://youtu.be/zYcOxiNnfEk

So glad i'm not the only one who noticed this

Bought it today during BlackFriday sale and yeah, the brightness levels immediately looked off

 

[Risk Breaker]

They also change the brightness(?) when moving and stopping again. Like getting brighter, then darker again, back to brighter, and so on.
Could this be related to the "improved TAA"?
https://youtu.be/zYcOxiNnfEk[/url[/...in many other games). It's always been there.

 

[AgentOtaku]

That's just the adaptive brightness/HDR (not the TV HDR, but lightning engine HDR, present in many other games). It's always been there.

Can you turn it off?

it's REALLY distracting

EDIT: Interesting... I see that the "brightness" is set to 50 percent on XB1, but it's 0 on PS4Pro

 

[madmackem]

I've been playing this after a tiny break and the frame-rate is all over the place on PS4 Pro.

It's horrid.

EDIT: Playing Conquest.

Not for me and I've been playing non stop.

 

[madmackem]

Can you turn it off?

it's REALLY distracting

I doubt it most games use a form of it now it's to simulate how your eyes adjust to light.

 

[Bucca]

Visuals and performance still fucked?

Just got this from Walmart for $27, but I have a PS4Pro.

Haven't popped it in yet so no idea what performance is like.

 

[kriskrosbbk]

If you are interested how this is moving,follow https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/31848/battlefield-1-on-ps4-pro
We have a developer there who asked for comparison videos/pics.They are looking into a fix.

 

[VincentMatts]

Visuals and performance still fucked?

Just got this from Walmart for $27, but I have a PS4Pro.

Haven't popped it in yet so no idea what performance is like.

Its far from fucked. Its just slighty worse than it was.

 

[Lifejumper]

Fix incoming:

Hi all,

We found an issue that explains a lot of the issues mentioned in this thread, e.g. FPS drops and blurry textures. The issue relates to the dynamic resolution where the minimum was too high.

We have a fix for this for all platforms (except PC that does not use dynamic resolution) and it will be included in the next patch.

Nils

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-u...d-1-on-ps4-pro-edit-1-04-patch-downgrade/p106

Looks like fixing the minimum resolution in the previous patch caused this issue.

 

[BigTnaples]

Fix incoming:



https://forums.battlefield.com/en-u...d-1-on-ps4-pro-edit-1-04-patch-downgrade/p106

Looks like fixing the minimum resolution in the previous patch caused this issue.

Nice!

 

[GodParticle]

So we weren't crazy after all

 

[Lifejumper]

So we weren't crazy after all

Yeah i honestly started believing the placebo theories, thought I was going crazy.

 

[The Dude]

Great to hear, the game just didn't feel right after that patch. Glad to hear they are admitting the problem and plan to fix. Thank you Dice

 

[-griffy-]

Wait, how would the minimum resolution being set too high result in blurrier textures? Do the textures change based on performance too or something? Also, it sounds like the fix will result in a lower resolution?

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Wait, how would the minimum resolution being set too high result in blurrier textures? Do the textures change based on performance too or something? Also, it sounds like the fix will result in a lower resolution?

Definitely sounds like they are going to lower the minimum res.

 

[PaNaMa]

So... they found an issue that relates to the game's dynamic resolution "minumum" set "too high"

I'm inferring here, obviously, but I take his meaning to be the game wasn't downscaling resolution (to 900p for example) as often as it should in busy situations. That it was holding 1080p in situations where the dynamic resolution scaler should have reduced image quality.

In other words, the problem they found was the image quality was staying "too good" (thus impacting FPS). I thought the general complaint was that image quality got *worse* since the patch? Not that it had become "too crisp" due to maintaining higher resolution at the expense of frames.. I'm confused

 

[The Dude]

Yea good point, after re reading what they're saying I'm confused to.

The game looked and ran better, that first day with the pro it popped more graphically and it ran a hell of a lot smoother on pro, it's amazing how it has to get fucked. Because it was damn near perfect, as can be expected for a console and was definitely a step up from original ps4

 

[PeterLegend]

Great news time to hop back into BF1

 

[Lifejumper]

DICE clarified:

Hi,

I need to clarify a few things. Before the patch (i.e. version 1.02) there was no minimum at all. In 1.04 we added a minimum but due to a bug that got calculated the wrong way and was set way too high. In the next patch we are going to have minimum but it will be properly set.

The quality of the textures are, since launch, untouched.

 

[BigTnaples]

DICE clarified:

Sounds good.

 

[Always-honest]

Didn't it already look and run better on the Pro?
Weird to see this old thread back again.
But good that they're improving even more.

 

[Afrikan]

DICE clarified:

"way too high"

I don't know why I got a lulz out of that... I wonder how high it actually was.

 

[thelastword]

So we weren't crazy after all

Gamers who actually play the game are always the best judges of these things, you know when IQ got worse, you know when framerate got worse. For people who don't play the game to say "oh it's the same"...it's all placebo etc...are just persons who are normally pro corporation and hate complaints about anything at all....

I remember there was a time this game had a resolution drop of 160 x 90p on the consoles, so something weird happens with their dynamic resolution sometimes. I'm glad they have nailed the root cause of all these discrepancies.

 

[-hadouken]

Fantastic news. With a dynamic game like BF1, this was not something that would necessarily be picked up by the likes of Digital Foundry, as like for like footage simply doesn't exist.

Hopefully performance is on par with 1.02, tho it could still be better in 64P modes. As for the IQ, I'd argue that the TAA added to all consoles with 1.04 makes the game look blurrier than necessary on PS4Pro (1080P displays). One size fits all is the problem here.

 

[-griffy-]

Gamers who actually play the game are always the best judges of these things, you know when IQ got worse, you know when framerate got worse. For people who don't play the game to say "oh it's the same"...it's all placebo etc...are just persons who are normally pro corporation and hate complaints about anything at all....

Yeah, that's exactly what happened, it wasn't that there was all kinds of contradictory information, screenshot comparisons, and video analyses from people playing the game coming out in the days after the patch, befuddling everything.

 

[CloudyTuba]

"way too high"

I don't know why I got a lulz out of that... I wonder how high it actually was.

The one problem with our previous patch was that it was almost too good.

More seriously, having a proper minimum set normally will be nice. Performance will be good but that strange shit from launch wont happen either. I thought it was very strange at launch that they actually allowed the game to run as low as it wanted, making the picture randomly twitch to the quality of a JPG from 1998.

 

[black070]

Yeah, that's exactly what happened, it wasn't that there was all kinds of contradictory information, screenshot comparisons, and video analyses from people playing the game coming out in the days after the patch, befuddling everything.

This - the "us real gamers" stance is dumbfounded. Especially so when Dice are reaffirming that the texture quality has remained untouched.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Gamers who actually play the game are always the best judges of these things, you know when IQ got worse, you know when framerate got worse. For people who don't play the game to say "oh it's the same"...it's all placebo etc...are just persons who are normally pro corporation and hate complaints about anything at all....

I remember there was a time this game had a resolution drop of 160 x 90p on the consoles, so something weird happens with their dynamic resolution sometimes. I'm glad they have nailed the root cause of all these discrepancies.

Idk I put atleast 20+ hours on bf1 on the pro. It doesn't look different to me. Overall I have 70ish hours on bf1 for PS4.