Hero_of_the_Day
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Random question, about how long of a game is Bravely Default?
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Bravely Default Outsells Lightning Returns FF13 in the US
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Mgrgrgrgrg!!
Funny, I absolutely adore FFV (and X-2's battle system), and Bravely Default was pretty amazing to me. Big props to Bravely Default, I've heard a lot more bad things about XIII-3.
The second half of the game is pretty bleh compared to the first half, but if you spread out all your sidequests evenly over the first half, you can just power through the second half quickly and get to the end. It's better that way.
I skipped all the repeat optional bosses, it's a waste of time and makes the game drag on more. Just do the crystals over and over.
-MD-
Member
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I'd say so. I spent over 30 hours and didn't even finish the game. (Once I got to the second half I dropped that shit like it was hot). Maybe someday I'll finish it. someday.
Basileus777
Member
No. It's a 40-50 hour game including sidequests. I did everything worthwhile in 43 hours. Anyone spending 70+ hours on this is messing around.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
This:
Is my exact reaction every time I go to that site. I never know how accurate they are.
"Everything worthwhile" isn't really what howlongtobeat covers.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
haahaha
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Your playing the version that included a bunch of quality of life improvements, the original game I wouldn't doubt was that long.
Basileus777
Member
I did everything except some sidequests
in the later chapters that are completely identical to one I already did.
Ok, without turbo mode and other improvements yes it would longer. But the western version of the game is nowhere near 83 hours to complete.
Too bad the opposite is going to happen though.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/02/21/bravely-second-will-focus-story-rather-exploration/
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Im at 75 hours and im stuck on a boss in the last chapter, the last "half" of the game slowly drained any affection i had for the game out of me, and i would have told you it was a great JRPG in the first half of the game.
djplaeskool
Member
Both are good games, though I'll say I enjoyed LR more.
A major contributing factor is that LR got better as I kept playing, while Bravely Default did the opposite.
RIP
A major contributing factor is that LR got better as I kept playing, while Bravely Default did the opposite.
RIP
Storm Chamber
Banned
I'm on Chapter 3 of BD
guys pls
guys pls
They're all notably buffed at that point so they tend to be pretty lengthy fights.
toddhunter
Member
A redo most of chapter 2 and 3 also wouldn't hurt
Go to the airship and go back to the ship on the sea. Go into the tavern and talk to the man at the right of the leftmost table. Travel to Caldisla. Go into the inn. Travel to Hartschild. Go into the Goodman Residence. Go back to Caldisla. Enter the palace. Now go back to the ship.
Go into the tavern, then go to the market area. Go up to enter the next area. Travel back to Caldisla and go to the inn. Go back to the ship. Go to the Bridge area (north of the market), then inspect the engine.
Go into the tavern, then go to the market area. Go up to enter the next area. Travel back to Caldisla and go to the inn. Go back to the ship. Go to the Bridge area (north of the market), then inspect the engine.
How about no.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Good.
I hope SE understands that people want FF games from them with that old FF magic and quality. And don't decide instead that they need to make FFXIII-4 on handhelds, or a new Bravely Default on consoles helmed by Toriyama.
I hope SE understands that people want FF games from them with that old FF magic and quality. And don't decide instead that they need to make FFXIII-4 on handhelds, or a new Bravely Default on consoles helmed by Toriyama.
Twin Tails
Member
I love lightning more lightning
theprodigy
Member
speedrun topic?
both games combined can be beaten in under 6 hours
#themoreyouknow
both games combined can be beaten in under 6 hours
#themoreyouknow
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's a recurring theme in that game.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I did everything in the game and it took me around 76 hours, I think you can easily finish it in around 50.
So let's examine this rationally with what we know:
1. LR outsells BD at retail.
2. BD outsells LR due to digital sales.
3. No reported difference but based on NPD, it cannot be more than 50k.
Therefore, the data supports that SE fans wanted a new quality JRPG just a little bit more than the third game in a divisive series and it had to be portable to help this. I am glad BD sold well and will hopefully encourage the sequel to come over but let's not make the difference significant when there is no indication that is the case.
Basileus777
Member
It's a 3DS RPG, those are good numbers for that market.
That1BlackGuy
Member
I share this opinion though I wouldn't say that I outright disliked Bravely Default as I simply found the game lackluster, weighing positives and negatives it did nothing for me. Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy: 4 Heroes of Light were vastly superior IMO.
As for the thread: Can't say that I am surprised. No matter how Lightning Returns would've came out as a title (speaking in terms of quality), negative pre-release word of mouth and perception was going to screw this game out of the gate sales wise. Speaking on presumed budgets, SE at the very least had to see some respectable ROI on these releases even with the numbers being nothing to write home about. They'd be smart to look at smaller, more sustainable budgets for their franchises going forward.
In short...
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I don't see why it wouldn't be. The success of JRPGs are heavily skewed by how well Pokemon does and how well FF used to do. I mean, consider that Fire Emblem: Awakening was unanimously declared a success when it came out last year, and it did a bit worse than Bravely Default has done. It's always been a matter of properly managed expectations, especially for a genre where the gap between the mega-successes and what these games normally do is so wide.
Unknown One
Member
I need to have their shirts.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Fire emblem sold a million I think ww, If BD manages that (which I personally kinda doubt), then it would be a pretty large success.
plutoknight
Member
That's....awesome. As much as I'm enjoying Lightning Returns (it has its warts!), I haven't touched Bravely Default yet. but I'm glad it's doing well anyway!
ULTROS!
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Hear hear.
BD:FF seems highly overrated, and LR:FFXIII is obviously mediocre and it's already obvious.
and BDFF has no trophies.
*runs*
*runs*
BD is amazing. Sure the last chapters hurt it, but it's the best turn based JRPG system I've played.
It's just fun.
theprodigy
Member
well, to be fair:
1. Fire Emblem never had a game break 1 million WW before, so expectations were obviously low
2. Bravely Default probably won't have the legs that Awakening did, as it should be around 1.5 million WW by now
also Bravely Default sucked in Europe, Fire Emblem did well there
'MURICA FTW, we have better taste in FF games
Kappa
Kappa
Yeah, it seems like its performance in Europe will put a stop to that, but I would say it will have done incredibly well if it gets to 750k WW, which shouldn't be an issue at all.
Please do a simultaneous worldwide release for Bravely Second
By worldwide you mean US and Japan right?
plutoknight
Member
oh my god. Between that and FFX HD metacritic being substantially higher than LR...how...will we ever see him again?!
And, imo, that is the market SE should be targeting with jrpgs. If they pump another $75 million into XV, they are crazy. Much safer to have a few $1 million dollar portable jrpgs on mobile.
I just don't think there are 5 million + japanese dungeon crawler fans willing to buy @ full retail, which is kinda what is needed now for an elite console game to be profitable.
Those are good numbers for a JRPG on any system. Ni No Kuni and Tales of Xillia sold similarly first month on PS3 and both were hailed as big successes.
It might already be 750k ww. USA plus Japan alone is now 560k+.
Why are we leaving out PAL Land? I feel for those guys.
bu but if you add sales of all regions err um something something it comes to 2m, TWO MILLION world wide!!! somehow.. I'm sure it was PROFITABLE.