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Byron Smith convicted of premeditated murder of two teens during home break-in
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Macmanus
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I have family in Little Falls and I'm from Mpls myself. I just want to correct this little bit that I keep reading over and over in articles:
There really wasn't a lot of debate on this issue. Maybe for the first minute, but that quickly faded. To the community he's viewed as a fucking lunatic that murdered their children. The main reason bail wasn't posted was assumed reprisal, which was a pretty sound assumption.
Byron Smith absolutely knew these two people and their parents before he executed them.
There really wasn't a lot of debate on this issue. Maybe for the first minute, but that quickly faded. To the community he's viewed as a fucking lunatic that murdered their children. The main reason bail wasn't posted was assumed reprisal, which was a pretty sound assumption.
Byron Smith absolutely knew these two people and their parents before he executed them.
OrangeJulius
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I think it's pretty safe to assume this guy suffers from some sort of mental illness or psychopathy. The world is full of them. Lock him up and throw away the key.
RPGCrazied
Member
Disgusting. Time to lock him up for the rest of his life.
It's unfortunate that he was pushed to his limits and frustrated by the ineffectiveness of the police in the years leading up to the murders. It doesn't excuse his actions in any way but this man is clearly mentally unstable considering he crafted this elaborate ruse to carry out his own twisted, murderous version of justice. He should have gotten help before any of this turned into a problem but now he's basically thrown his life away and taken the lives of two teenagers who deserve to be behind bars instead of in coffins.
CharminUltra
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He sure taught them a lesson, though, didn't he?
Come the fuck on....read the OP.
Pai Pai Master
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For the uninformed, Byron Smith was a guy who got convicted of premeditated murder of two teens during home break-in.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
People saying "only because of double tap" and "...but premeditated?" is the reason why I can't tell if people on GAF just love to troll (which I can appreciate at times) or if people are bat-shit insane!
Carnby
Member
It makes me very happy that this piece of shit will never live another day of his life as a free man.
Every thing he spent his life working for is gone. His home, his friends, his family, his retirement, his everything is gone. He will spend his last days of his life rotting in a small cage, shitting next to his bed, and reading Reader's Digest to pass the times. Waiting for the day they cart his dead unloved ass out and bury it in a cheap pine box at a funeral no one will attend. I'm grinning ear to ear. This isn't rehabilitation, this is justice.
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Every thing he spent his life working for is gone. His home, his friends, his family, his retirement, his everything is gone. He will spend his last days of his life rotting in a small cage, shitting next to his bed, and reading Reader's Digest to pass the times. Waiting for the day they cart his dead unloved ass out and bury it in a cheap pine box at a funeral no one will attend. I'm grinning ear to ear. This isn't rehabilitation, this is justice.
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Jesus, that recording is horrifying.
Mammoth Jones
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There's a huge difference between self defense and premeditated murder. This was the latter.
This was a case of "I wish a motherfucker would..." gone horrifically wrong. His house got broken into a few times. That sucks. But you don't then try to set up a trap to "deal" with the problem. This isn't the Walking Dead where you can just shoot a person that's trying to steal from you any way you want. There's rules to this shit.
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This was a case of "I wish a motherfucker would..." gone horrifically wrong. His house got broken into a few times. That sucks. But you don't then try to set up a trap to "deal" with the problem. This isn't the Walking Dead where you can just shoot a person that's trying to steal from you any way you want. There's rules to this shit.
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This.
The One and Done
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This shit is fucking terrifying real talk. The audio is fucking bone chilling.
ShadowkillXNA
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I work with people who love guns and always talk about blowing away burglars and such.
Guarantee if this is on the breakroom tv tomorrow I'll hear "this country's really fucked up now - man cant even defend his own house anymore".
Mammoth Jones
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Then tell them to read their State/County/City laws on reasonable use of force/deadly force/self-defense.
There's rules to this shit. As law abiding citizens they should fucking know this. We can't have it both ways in the gun community. We can't say we obey the law then scoff when someone gets held to account for breaking it.
He can defend himself and his home. He can't lay a trap to entice a burglar to enter intentionally so he can kill him premeditatively.
Glad the jury came to the right decision.
This was fully premeditated. I mean he set it up even if he hadn't shot again multiple times that they could not call for help via the jammer or anything so he would have likely just left them to bleed out. Afterall he had the tarps laid out to minimize the mess
This is a sick individual.
Oh come on. He claims to have been robbed multiple times yet only called the cops once. This is not some ineffectiveness of the police.
This was fully premeditated. I mean he set it up even if he hadn't shot again multiple times that they could not call for help via the jammer or anything so he would have likely just left them to bleed out. Afterall he had the tarps laid out to minimize the mess
This is a sick individual.
Oh come on. He claims to have been robbed multiple times yet only called the cops once. This is not some ineffectiveness of the police.
The Lamonster
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What a fucking psycho. Protip do not listen to that audio, fuck.
It starts with what I am assuming is his call to the neighbor to come on by the next day. It is the next day when a neighbor reports the killings. Then he calls a lawyers office saying he is going to need to come in.
All clearly showing premeditation
I'm fairly certain those conversations are imaginary.
Edit - it does sound like he talks on the phone once or twice, but most of what he is saying is hushed garbage to himself.
Tallshortman
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Good, self defense applies when you can reasonably feel danger to yourself in most states and to stop an intruder you think is committing a crime. It doesn't let you summarily execute someone who clearly poses no danger and no reasonable person would think so.
Risible
Member
I think we're arguing semantics. I'm not speaking in a legal or justice system sense, I'm speaking in a colloquial or poetic sense. You're home is literally being invaded by other people. Hence, from that angle I think it is a perfect description of what is occuring.
Carnby
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I like Brian and Aku's opinions. A lot.
Trolling?
Anton Sugar
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Pardon me for having sympathy for two teenagers who were executed by a (convicted) murderer. No one is saying they weren't criminals, but I sure as hell don't think they deserved to be murdered the way they were.
Also, hero? Oh, you must be trolling! Got me!
Eh?
jim-jam bongs
Member
That's fine and dandy, as long as we're not discussing the legitimacy of maiming or killing another human being. My beef is that the phrasing encourages the notion that all incursions into one's territory are equally violating, which in turn suggests that any and all courses of action in retaliation are necessary or even justified. That is something I can't get behind.
Hale-XF11
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Welp. Good luck with aaaaaaaall that.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Wow. I shouldn't have listened to the audio. Her screaming and just hearing him unload, and then calling her a bitch once she was dead... What a fucking psycho.
The way he just kind of goes back to the conversation he was having with his imaginary friend after killing them is pretty crazy. The whole "I left my house at about 11:30, they were both dead by 1" I assume is him referring to parking his car some blocks away to make it look like he wasn't at home?
Damn, and the part where he starts his "if they're found guilty they might spend 6 months in jail..." spiel. Yeah, he clearly planned to lure them in to kill them.
Clearly.
The way he just kind of goes back to the conversation he was having with his imaginary friend after killing them is pretty crazy. The whole "I left my house at about 11:30, they were both dead by 1" I assume is him referring to parking his car some blocks away to make it look like he wasn't at home?
Damn, and the part where he starts his "if they're found guilty they might spend 6 months in jail..." spiel. Yeah, he clearly planned to lure them in to kill them.
Clearly.
Epsilon-delta
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Those people are disturbed. It's like they want someone to break into their home so they can fulfill their sick twisted fantasy of blowing people away.
No, all the crazies will hold their tongues now that he's been convicted. Too bad they still think he was in the right.
Sho_Nuff82
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You know, I'm glad he's in jail and all, but I don't really feel bad for the criminals. No one "wins" here, just an awful situation brought about by awful people clashing head to head.
Did you not hear the audio? What the fuck.
There is no material possession worth someone's life. I think the fact that they only came in because they thought he was gone would demonstrate they were interested in stealing, not attacking the owner.
I'm not excusing their robbery, but I can't take the logical step of "they wanted to take a TV without paying for one, therefore they deserved to die".
This is the problem with the death penalty. When you have one, people with guns start to think it's okay to mete it out on their own as a valid punishment.
Fox Mulder
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The guy is a psycho, but I've had my house broken into and it's a horrible violation of your privacy and security. I have no sympathy for pieces of shit that choose that route in life.
The death penalty has a slew of problems but this isn't one of them. This really has nothing to do with the death penalty.
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