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CBOAT's latest update
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Nightengale
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CBOAT doesn't leak everything, you know.
CBOAT knew that the launch list of countries was cut down from 21-to-13, and you know what? He didn't leak it.
He only let it out when the news got out from a separate website, and that was when he said "yeah, this is true."
I think it's helpful to remember how badly Sony fucked up the PS3 when thinking about why they seemingly have gotten so much right about the PS4. They started the PS4 design a *long* time ago because they kinda had to, the mistakes and problems of the PS3 hardware development (price, manufacturing complexity, misreading the way tech was evolving leading to crapping a GPU in last minute which led to tremendous problems for devs etc) were so obvious and bad they simply couldn't ignore it.
Then they made some good decisions a couple of years ago that set them down a solid path with some options - like the ability to upgrade to 8 gigs of RAM if GDDR5 fabrication came together late in the process. Just as importantly, they had the mindset that would let them make a change that big if it made sense, I bet it would have been so much easier to just lock it down at 4gb in 2012 and keep on that path.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
They originally wanted to release it in 2014? That's 9 years after the XBox 360 came out. 8 years is already too long imo. Seems odd they were blindsided by Sony coming out with the PS4 7 years after the PS3 came out. Especially when the PS2 came out 6 years after the original Playstation and the PS3 came out 6 years after the PS2.
SEGAvangelist
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That's probably due more to self-publishing existing earlier on PS4 than ease of development.
Games announcements, different region and multi account policies etc.
Where? Can you link me to this? I know he mentioned yield issues, but I don't remember hearing him saying anything about the upclock until today.
Just remember .. Bish is the one who knocks.
You can absolutely leak good news, it's probably just that bad right now at Microsoft concerning Xbox One.
Ahhhh yes. I think it wasn't outright said Platinum, right? Just big Japanese dev? And that it wasn't DR3?
Also I vote Gonff admits who he is and then immediately does a hurricanrana to someone for no reason
I have not been a professional developer long, so if the people contesting me have superior experience, you should take their word over mine.
BronsonLee
Member
Eh, I'm betting Gonff probably used the work email to verify. I doubt it's a big deal.
But ya CBoaT saying anything is surprising. Figured that deal was over until next year.
I really just wanted to see someone try a wrestling move on an unsuspecting person
This is my biggest issue. The Xbox brand is already established as a video game system. It doesn't seem like the new direction is helping either the Xbox brand or the rest of the Windows products.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Im gonna ask this again...
"We are one month away...What is supposed to be happening according to him xbox one's breaking or something?"
"We are one month away...What is supposed to be happening according to him xbox one's breaking or something?"
What if he works for black tusk?!
Nightengale
Member
Game development team or hardware development team?
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I'd say both. Self publishing is huge. Plus the fact that the PS4 is a Unix machine with normal (relatively) x86 architecture parts and of course PCs, should make development much easier than most. If the Vita is based on Unix/Linux (not sure), it should be easy to make as well. Same goes with the Wii U.
My pet theory is the MS gave the approval for the Xbox 720 program late, and only with some serious strings attached.
What we know:
This isn't a game console, it's the culmination of Ballmer's vision for Microsoft:
- We know Microsoft is planning a cookie-alternative to track users across PCs, mobile and notable the Xbox
- Yusuf Mehdi let it slip that the goal is advertising unified across those devices
- This thing is built for apps, really gaming is almost just another app, like TV
- Kinect is mandatory, many of us have speculated that Kinect is the input to control these apps. It may even run modified Windows 8, or Windows Phone apps, using Kinect for controls of course
- On the flip side, Kinect for Business is being pitched as serious commercial product that can do everything from a glorified camera to a complete input device
None of these things require much hardware power, all of them (I am speculating) were forced on the Xbox One before serious design could even begin. It was always hamstrung, and it is the product of some serious horse trading behind the scenes.
- It expands the Windows 8/Windows Phone/Surface ecosystem (probably meant to save the latter two).
- It is an advertising goldmine and execs can't conceal their glee. Microsoft has been watching Google and Apple's advances here with palpable envy. 80M users (or 49M gold) would be a nice advantage.
- It is a new means of interacting with computers, using Kinect everywhere. So of course it is mandatory here. Dat business/consumer synergy. MS seriously believes your next computer might have Kinect as an alternate control scheme.
CAAAAAAAAROOOOOOOOOOL
i'm sorry i don't have any actual input but I had to say it.
Haha nice picture to end the list. Gotta love Always SunnyMy pet theory is the MS gave the approval for the Xbox 720 program late, and only with some serious strings attached.
What we know:
This isn't a game console, it's the culmination of Ballmer's vision for Microsoft:
- We know Microsoft is planning a cookie-alternative to track users across PCs, mobile and notable the Xbox
- Yusuf Mehdi let it slip that the goal is advertising unified across those devices
- This thing is built for apps, really gaming is almost just another app, like TV
- Kinect is mandatory, many of us have speculated that Kinect is the input to control these apps. It may even run modified Windows 8, or Windows Phone apps, using Kinect for controls of course
- On the flip side, Kinect for Business is being pitched as serious commercial product that can do everything from a glorified camera to a complete input device
None of these things require much hardware power, all of them (I am speculating) were forced on the Xbox One before serious design could even begin. It was always hamstrung, and it is the product of some serious horse trading behind the scenes.
- It expands the Windows 8/Windows Phone/Surface ecosystem (probably meant to save the latter two).
- It is an advertising goldmine and execs can't conceal their glee. Microsoft has been watching Google and Apple's advances here with palpable envy. 80M users (or 49M gold) would be a nice advantage.
- It is a new means of interacting with computers, using Kinect everywhere. So of course it is mandatory here. Dat business/consumer synergy. MS seriously believes your next computer might have Kinect as an alternate control scheme.
Zatoichi's Cane
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what would be your explanation for a lack of 1080p games for xbone? (Ryse, KI..)
I know in the wake of E3 one indie developer was saying they where not going to release stuff on Xbone out of principle. I wish i could find the vid, i can't remember the game. I think the game i'm thinking of was the AVGN one.
Ah, so you're cherry-picking.
Nice, a cboat update.
I don't think he dislikes the place, I rather think he is disappointed how the Xbox One project went and now likes to see how those poor decisions are gonna fail. Schadenfreude is just sweet.
There had to be some resistance against the whole DRM story and TV focus internal.
But we can all just guess who he is and where he works.
I don't think he dislikes the place, I rather think he is disappointed how the Xbox One project went and now likes to see how those poor decisions are gonna fail. Schadenfreude is just sweet.
There had to be some resistance against the whole DRM story and TV focus internal.
But we can all just guess who he is and where he works.
BronsonLee
Member
Yup. Also the same guy who's been calling shit correctly since fucking 2005 and the only times he's been wrong are, for the most part...now. And rarely. Because it's next-gen and shit is crazy.
njean777
Member
From what he said he seems to be implying that the upclock they announced seems to be a risky move alluding to the RROD of the past. They did this with the 360 and it bit them hard, so he is implying it may happen again.
This guy got these 3 things wrong, therefore I will discount these 30+ things he got right!
Yes, totally logical!
What indies on Xbox One?
That's one way to interpret it. Seems like he's saying that the up-clocks sounded good to the public, but come at a cost.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Was the 360 upclocked as miniscule as the one?
njean777
Member
It is normal for fanboys to think illogically.
Tbh you would be better off asking somebody else, I didn't follow video games very much back then. Just from history, changing things a few weeks before manufacturing is not a good idea.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
simplythebest
Banned
You need cipher on hand when it comes to that guy. Makes things easier
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Not surprised about the no 1080p. I'd be more worried about the risky upclock, don't want another RROD fiasco.
UnObtainium17
Member
xbone supposed to be out 2014? First time I heard it. Other than the almighty CBOAT, who has said it?
Chezzymann
Member
Can someone post links to the things he's gotten exactly right? I don't care about general ideas that are safe guesses. I mean specific information that isn't very easy to guess.
la flama blanca
Banned
DEM MENTAL GYMNASTICS
VibratingDonkey
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Good luck with the beta testing, "Tier 1"!on the eve of Canadian thanksgiving.
and ..
reptilescorpio
Member
Well insider card, see a mod or ban. But let's carry on anyway:
You can easily show us the math to show that a render target "easily fit's into 32mb" I'll show you my side of our disagreement:
Though this method is becoming less and less used in games development:
Without AA?
If we were to look at Durante's minimum suggested of 16 Bytes per pixel we'd be looking at around 32mb which is about as small as you could go which would be 31.64mb.
This is essentially the MINIMUM you could get away with, Most games would require much higher.
Neither was microsoft pr....your point?
HomerSimpson-Man
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It's always the young gaffers who heavily doubt CBOAT.
You think he just started posting rumors only about XBone?
Dude has been with GAF like a decade, rarely ever posts, but when he does we listen. Why? Because his rumor mill has a very very high accuracy rate.
You think he just started posting rumors only about XBone?
Dude has been with GAF like a decade, rarely ever posts, but when he does we listen. Why? Because his rumor mill has a very very high accuracy rate.
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