GaviotaGrande
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RTX off/on, in that order.
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Cyberpunk 2077 HypeTrain | Just breathe (No leaks)
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BEATORICHEEEEEE
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What the fuck, that's such a huge difference in atmosphere, I feel like you shouldn't need raytracing to get that cool red coloring.
Sad I don't have an RTX card.
Dampf
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Okay, got it. Then the second pictures look much better as no daylight is entering the scene, so it is only illumunated by the neon lights.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Don’t be too sad; that shit runs at like 10FPS on most cards. Ray Tracing while beautiful is computationally very expensive and many times not worth it. But congrats to those who have multiple 3090’s who can run this at 4k/ultra/RT/60. I’m sure it’s a site to behold
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BEATORICHEEEEEE
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Ivory Blood
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I think it's the other way around, first ones are with RTX enabled - it's labled that way in the original article.
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BEATORICHEEEEEE
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Dampf
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I knew it.
Because daylight is entering the scene from behind the player in the first scene, and next to the vending machine in the second comparison. It looks miles better, as the day light is not even considered to be bouncing light in the rasterized version.
It would be so cool if you could close these doors and the lighting changes to behave more like the second pics, because that is something you could absolutely do with RT.
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vpance
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Still NDA'd I think.
But I'm pretty optimistic about it from what I've seen of streams and direct captures.
BEATORICHEEEEEE
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GaviotaGrande
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You're right, sorry! I'm on my phone and was too lazy to scroll to see the right order... The ones with daylight bouncing off walls is with RTX.
MiguelItUp
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This alone is why I planned to double dip on PS5. I want all the physical stuff, haha.What other dev does this? I love CDPR.
Ivory Blood
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Yeah, for real. It might look more realistic with RTX, but second pics kinda look better to me.Damn you're right, the light is reflected in here:
Jesus christ, i'm relieved.
Dampf
Member
That is because your brain does not know there's a door behind the player where daylight is coming in cuz you are obviously not playing the game. That is exactly why RT should not be judged based on screenshots but it needs to be experienced. If your brain knew this, it would instantly think "why is this scene so dark regardless of the daylight shining behind me into the hallway ?"
That being said, it would be so cool if you could manipulate the light sources in the game with RTX on, like closing doors, shooting lights etc. That would result into an incredible immersive experience that is only able to be fully realized with RTX on.
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MMaRsu
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I really hope CDPR's patch and nvidia drivers will fix most of the issue but when a 3090 with DLSS can't run the game maxed at 60 fps, it really feels bad man. My 2080 is crying right now. Guess I'll have to lock it to 30, plug the controller and just enjoy it on a big screen. Can;'t imagine the state the game was in april.
I guess these were 30 fps requirements.
We already knew that was the 30fps requirements
also, where is the fucking 3070 in that table?
IShowUBasics
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this is just a rigged application of RTX. You could literally do the same lighting without RTX but they make the nonrtx mode worse on purpose because of nvidia marketing. Like why are there white lights in the non rtx version but not in the rtx on version?
Infested Goblin
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so 4k gaming with ray tracing is still a meme unless game has dlss
BEATORICHEEEEEE
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Read the posts above hahah, turns out the "red" screenshot was without RT.
The Cockatrice
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Not with DLSS on we didnt.
IShowUBasics
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then its even worse lmao. looks like the reduced the bright colors to make it possible to see reflections in the RT mode.
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It was mentioned in the Nvidia article.
Cyberpunk 2077 System Requirements Revealed: GeForce RTX 3070 Recommended
Learn which GPUs you will need to enjoy the ultimate Cyberpunk 2077 experience across resolutions, and check out our new behind the scenes RTX ON video featuring the game’s developers at CD PROJEKT RED.
www.nvidia.com
The Cockatrice
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It was mentioned in the Nvidia article.
Cyberpunk 2077 System Requirements Revealed: GeForce RTX 3070 Recommended
Learn which GPUs you will need to enjoy the ultimate Cyberpunk 2077 experience across resolutions, and check out our new behind the scenes RTX ON video featuring the game’s developers at CD PROJEKT RED.www.nvidia.com
Ah didnt see the article. Meh.
Dampf
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Nah this is false. Sure it could be realized with baked lights, but in such a huge open world, that is simply not feasible for the dev team and that development costs are better spent somewhere else. Remember, you have to manually bake that light for every corridor there might be in the game and for every time of day as well.
In games like TLOU2, devs use tons of baked lights that look like the RT image and there it works, but that isn't a dynamic, open world with TOD, so they can get away with baking light and making it look fantastic with a decent budget.
So no, Nvidia butchering raster effect in this game is nothing but a conspiracy theory and is not even worth discussing.
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GaviotaGrande
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No, you're missing the point. I posted these just to show how different a scene can look in both modes. Go to that russian website to see more screenshots. RTX is vastly superior and more natural looking.
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BEATORICHEEEEEE
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GaviotaGrande
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It was posted on the previous page. I also added another example to my post that you just quoted.
MMaRsu
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So whats wrong with DLSS exactly?
Inviusx
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I swore I would wait for next gen to get that 60fps experience but if I can get that via BC on PS5 I'll pick it up in the 10th. Again, these reviews are useless.
Luipadre
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Im waiting for PS5 impressions too. Hows the image quality without CA and film grain, hows the performance etc
TheSamurai
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Jumping in regardless. I would usually wait until a patch fixes most of the issues but I’m really looking forward to it.
I’ll see if the games overall quality will bypass my annoyances with the bugs.
vpance
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60 FPS is in for sure. Will be interesting what is added in quality mode. Like if there's extra traffic and peds there I'm using that instead.
1260p 60 FPS at a minimum. Day 1 patch may improve that.
Luipadre
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CloudNull
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So the 2nd shots are with RTX off? IMO RTX off looks much better.
In this one RTX on looks better. I think I still prefer the atmosphere with RTX off.No, you're missing the point. I posted these just to show how different a scene can look in both modes. Go to that russian website to see more screenshots. RTX is vastly superior and more natural looking.
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MMaRsu
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Real 4k screens from the PC version, from one of our russian reviewers, played on 2080ti, 4k 30fps.
Cyberpunk 2077: 4K-скриншоты с максимальными настройками и заметки на полях о самой игре — Железо на DTF
7 декабря CD Projekt RED сняла запрет на публикацию обзоров Cyberpunk 2077, и наш автор уже поделился своими впечатлениями от полного прохождения игры.dtf.ru
Fuck.. those empty streets on PC are a real bummer. Goddamnit.
GaviotaGrande
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Someone mentioned that already but just because a single frame might appear as more attractive, it doesn't mean that it will be the case once you're playing and you're in that space. There's clearly a daylight beaming from rooms that are not in frame. I'll take realistic lighting over fake and flashy one.
vpance
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1260p? somebody counted it or what?
I counted it
From the official PS5 gameplay trailer they released and also some streams.
Luipadre
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I counted it
From the official PS5 gameplay trailer they released and also some streams.
But PS doesnt have a quality mode right? 1260p as minimum is okay i guess. FIrst thing im gonna do is turning off CA and film grain
GaviotaGrande
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CloudNull
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True. I am just bit salty I dont have RT. I went for an AMD build and I am stoked to see that it looks great with RT off. The car pic you posted looks way better with RT on.
vpance
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I never saw a quality mode available in any of the PS5 streams. But everyone is expecting it to be there after the patch because XSX has it already.
Also have to turn off the lens flares. They put all 3 things to extreme settings by default.
Luipadre
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PS got that patch aswell and still no quality mode. A bit weird but i take 60 fps anyday. Just hope the Image quality is still good
Trogdor1123
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Waiting on NextGen myself. I dont recall them giving a date though.
vpance
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Didn't they do something similar with Witcher 3? PS4 Pro patch didn't come til much later I think.
Image is soft but aliasing isn't bad at all because of that.
Salmon Snake
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Still waiting more info about PS5 improvements.
Heartkiller
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I feel like the smart thing to do would be to wait for some PS4 Pro impressions... but I'll probably jump in regardless. I suffered through Skyrim on the PS3 and I have to imagine that this couldn't be any worse than that. Besides, I'll definitely be playing through this game multiple times.
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