Leyasu
Banned
Yep. Bungie can say whatever the fuck they want. Once you have paid for the game, and spent money in what is sure to be microtransaction infested . They won't even bother lowering themselves to respond.
No buy for me
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Destiny 2's PS4 Exclusive Content will Arrive on PC and Xbox One in 2018
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Yep. Bungie can say whatever the fuck they want. Once you have paid for the game, and spent money in what is sure to be microtransaction infested . They won't even bother lowering themselves to respond.
No buy for me
Damn so its the wild west out here now?
Every gamer for themselves.. we aint changed
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
First, a caveat, I love Destiny. Secondly, yeah. It's set in stone, and Bungie deserves the lost respect and criticism regarding every single Destiny game with this exclusive content. Bungie and Activision (and Sony) have brought this shadow over the Destiny franchise and they deserve all the criticism that comes with it. They can't have it both ways and not expect criticism and PR messes regarding this.
Hockeymac18
Member
Will the price reflect the lack of/addition of exclusive content between the platforms?
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
It didn't for Destiny, so there's your answer.
I don't that's true. It actually benefits us all.
I for one want Bungie to be making mutli-gazillion $ Destiny games for many years to come and for that I need them to continue to make even more gazillions in profit.
This is just part of that process.
just typical Hunter behaviour
NullPointer
Member
Even by that strained logic it certainly does not benefit Xbox players.
And the only value offered to PS4 players is in Xbox players not getting access to content for a long while, which is just kinda gross.
And there's Bungie, between their two (ehh... three now) playerbases, pitching one against the other.
Fuck Bungie, fuck Activision, fuck anyone who supports this shit
I wouldn't even mind if it meant that players on PC and Xbox got a discount. Then in a year have the option to buy the exlusive content
But you can bet your arse we'll be paying the same amount for less content. They did this shit with Destiny 1. Fool me once.
I wouldn't even mind if it meant that players on PC and Xbox got a discount. Then in a year have the option to buy the exlusive content
But you can bet your arse we'll be paying the same amount for less content. They did this shit with Destiny 1. Fool me once.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Good thing those PS4 players will be able to play nightfall versions of the exclusive strikes... oh, wait..
Honestly, PS4 players are technically missing out of content because of its exclusivity too.
Yearsoflurking
Member
xbox and pc versions should be 10 dollars off
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
And Bungie, Activision, and Sony will continue to be criticized until 2024 unless Anthem eats their lunch. =P
Came here to say this, still waiting for my Jade Rabbit.
No you're missing my point. What I mean is that these types of deals, regardless of the bad taste they leave in the mouth, facilitate the existence of the games on any platform.
A game of the size and scale of Destiny represents a phenomenal financial investment and an enormous risk for those who finance it. As long as deals like this are profitable they'll be a reality of the business. You can't really blame Activision/Bungie for trying to squeeze every penny they can from process, and so long as that means they keep churning out games of this kind of quality I really can't say I particularly mind.
Oh that settles it. You can't blame Bungie for screwing over consumers guys. They're just trying to make a profit
Jesus, the corporate shilling
So can I take it then that everyone here is also going to boycott PS4 Spiderman on the same moral grounds?
I mean, Sony have clearly given Insomniac a hell of a lot of money to make a game exclusively for their platform, denying XB and PC players 100% of the content when they could easily have not accepted the money and made a cute little 2D platformer that everyone could enjoy instead?
It's the same thing people! Business is business and it's thanks to this same business that we've got any of these games to play in the first place!
I mean, Sony have clearly given Insomniac a hell of a lot of money to make a game exclusively for their platform, denying XB and PC players 100% of the content when they could easily have not accepted the money and made a cute little 2D platformer that everyone could enjoy instead?
It's the same thing people! Business is business and it's thanks to this same business that we've got any of these games to play in the first place!
I mean bungie is putting out a solid version of destiny 2 on pc so i cant really complain.. with uncapped framerates, fov slider, 4k support, 21:9 support.. and its not a shitty console port but instead was built from the ground up.. id take that over a map / strike / weapon any day.. especially since we'll be getting those regardless
dragonflys545
Member
Critizing won't stop them from making money. Pretty sure all those who says they will skip the game will buy it anyway just like those who petition to stop buying call of duty games.
fluffydelusions
Member
Lol don't be silly
I agree 100% this practice is dumb but I feel this stance isn't the best way to go about it. What would be the measuring stick for this discount be? Development cost? Average gameplay time? I mean I can't help but feel the discount under any measurement would be less than a dollar. I could be absolutely wrong.
rokkerkory
Member
This sucks a year! Hopefully this practice will stop.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I kind of agree, but tell that to us when you've played the strikes/pvp for hundreds of hours. 1 more map, 1 more strike, out there but unavailable. What you don't know...don't, hurt...you? (snaps)
edit: oh god, me doing that reminded me of the Flo Progressive commercial...I now hate myself.
Hockeymac18
Member
Sure - valid question. But it does seem wrong to charge people on all platforms the same price, but not deliver the same content.
That part bothers me more than the exclusivity aspect of it.
I 100% agree with you. You will go no argument out of me on that.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Did I say it would? If Bungie is just annoyed at responding constantly to this PR mess they are in, then that's better than them facing no criticism at all. They deserve any and all criticism coming their way.
Microsoft got criticized for 1 year exclusivity for Tomb Raider, and I guarantee that Disney/Marvel had the money to make Spider-Man as it is on all platforms, so yes. Sony probably should be criticized for that. Spider-Man PS4 looks like a QTE fest so there's other reasons right now not to get that game, personally. The E3 demo wasn't impressive to me, but that's neither here nor there.
Do you hold their shares or what?
I certainly hope so, at least the trailer looks much more interesting than destiny.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
With Drew K. writing, it'll certainly have a better story (well, it'll have a story so it'll be better by default).
plip.plop
Member
If this really bothers the Xbox base, why not hold off on buying Destiny until the exclusive content is released for the Xbox?
This should also apply to Sony players that have to wait for exclusive content locked behind an MS deal.
If we as a gaming community really hate this idea, then the only way to stop this practice is to hit them in the pocketbooks. When it no longer become profitable companies tend to drop those ideas.
This should also apply to Sony players that have to wait for exclusive content locked behind an MS deal.
If we as a gaming community really hate this idea, then the only way to stop this practice is to hit them in the pocketbooks. When it no longer become profitable companies tend to drop those ideas.
Monocle
Member
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So can I take it then that everyone here is also going to boycott PS4 Spiderman on the same moral grounds?
I mean, Sony have clearly given Insomniac a hell of a lot of money to make a game exclusively for their platform, denying XB and PC players 100% of the content when they could easily have not accepted the money and made a cute little 2D platformer that everyone could enjoy instead?
It's the same thing people! Business is business and it's thanks to this same business that we've got any of these games to play in the first place!
It's not the same thing because Destiny 2 costs $60 on all three platforms but one platform gets more content for the same price. For a year, anyway.
I will say that Xbox did this shit all the time ALL LAST GEN but now Sony is the asshole?
Mr Moose
Member
Did they get criticized for all those years of Fifa exclusive content? I don't remember seeing threads about it, though I don't really care about football so I guess I could've missed it.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Why is this worse than a full game being exclusive for a year?
Why is nobody complaining as much about that as much as this meaningless DLC?
Remember when everyone was against DLC? What we all of a sudden like it now?
Why is nobody complaining as much about that as much as this meaningless DLC?
Remember when everyone was against DLC? What we all of a sudden like it now?
As I said above, the difference is charging the same price for less content.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Not to jump off track, but I really hope this is the case, I have my doubts though. The problem is that Destiny is finally learning the loot game, and that's a terribly difficult yet important thing to implement in this new arpg genre. I imagine loot wise Anthem won't be nearly as varied as a game like Destiny, although I hope I'm wrong.
They also probably won't have PvP which is a huge draw in Destiny for a lot of people including myself. Destiny is one of the first games to implement satisfying PvP combat with a loot-system co-mingling with the campaign. The balance was often fucked the first go round, but it would be quite a feat for them to get it too much closer (except the supers, get rid of the 1hk supers in PvP if you want a competitive PvP multiplayer, Bungie).
Hockeymac18
Member
It's not worse. They're both shitty, and the game being locked away entirely is probably way worse. But we're not debating that here...
I will say the biggest issue with this specific Destiny thing, to me anyway, is price. One version gets more content for the same price. While it sucks not to have a game for a year, you are not charged more up front for content you can't play for a year.
Of course (!), we'd all rather have the game than to not play the game at all - but it doesn't make this issue go away.
IndoAssassin
Banned
But you still have to pay for the DLC whether you pay for it right away or a year later.
Just like you have to pay full price for the game a year after everyone else has played it.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Probably? I'm not into Fifa either, but Microsoft got criticized for one month exclusive CoD content so...
IndoAssassin
Banned
This logic makes absolutely no sense.
Game is $60 on both and you get the same game for $60.
The difference is one consumer gets to pay $20 for more DLC. So they spend $80 on the game. The other consumer just doesn't have that option.
How is the value any different?
Both consumers are spending the same amount for the same game.
Not that I can remember, to be honest. And do people really expect the other versions to cost less? Sony is likely paying for the extra content, Activision in turn isn't going to lower the price on the other versions negating to a degree the money made from the Sony deal.
I honestly do not care.
1 exotic sniper rifle, 1 strike, 1 crucible map, and some armor. I'll get it eventually, hell I didn't even get a drop on the Monte Carlo (previously PS4 exclusive gun) on my XB1 character until earlier this year and I still don't care. Some folks are blowing this waaaaaay out of proportion.
1 exotic sniper rifle, 1 strike, 1 crucible map, and some armor. I'll get it eventually, hell I didn't even get a drop on the Monte Carlo (previously PS4 exclusive gun) on my XB1 character until earlier this year and I still don't care. Some folks are blowing this waaaaaay out of proportion.
Hockeymac18
Member
My experience with those kind of games is they come either at a reduced price or with far more content than the game launched with (e.g. all DLC, definitive editions).
That doesn't justify it, but it's not always how you describe it. And if a company DOES do what you describe, that is double shitty. No way around it. I personally wouldn't support a company that did that.
If you don't like it don't buy the other versions. When the lost sales cause Sony to have to pay far too much they will stop doing it. The only way this stops is if gamers use their wallets. I just bought the PS4 version even though I'd prefer it on PC. I already have a feeling the PC will be full of hacks and bugs. I'd rather stay on the primary dev console given bunnies lack of experience with the PC crowd.