DF always has odd comments that invite unnecessary platform comparisons. I kind of get the idea but in the end I don't think dragging a 1080p exclusive from another console into the evaluation is at all helpful.
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Digital Foundry hands-on Quantum Break (XB1)
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At this point, I have my fingers crossed for UC4. I don't think anyone outside of ND has a chance at dethroning that beast.
I remember thoroughly enjoying Skyrim on PS3 and being bombarded with reasons why I shouldn't. these cited reasons were 99% DF articles. But the console war keeps the clicks coming I guess.
digoutyoursoul
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GHG
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Vsync issues are mentioned in DF's article and as for IQ it's something that I'd only be able to judge if I got the game playing on my TV (or some uncompressed direct footage videos).
To be honest if the game is running at 720p I wouldn't even bother with it. But that's just me, I'm quite sensitive when it comes to IQ, hence I play pretty much all of my PC games downsampled on my PC. Games running below 1080p on my consoles is a big no-no for me.
GeordieMark
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I think ND will have a tough job outdoing The Order because they tend to create bigger, open environments, and they give the player more freedom. If ND were to make a game as linear as The Order I reckon they could top it.
The Janitor
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The bullet tracers in this game look pretty ugly, it's just a thick yellow line
Order 1886 isn't up scaled. It's at a native resolution with black bars. Most people's problem with lower resolutions is the blur caused by upscaling.
The Order isn't 900p...
Glorified G
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You would think a 720p game in 2016 would be at least 60fps, but this game is actually getting dips at 30fps. That says less about the hardware and more about Remedy.
Never encountered 'em, pretty crap if that happens but I still don't like how people use DF to invalidate games, or the fact that DF themself seems to dip in to that console war mentality.
However I thoroughly appreciate the extensive research that DF does when searching their games, they absolutely do know what theyre talking about a lot of the time.
plagiarize
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And like this, still one of the best looking games on the system despite that.
It's still certainly a negative on both games that they render so much at a lower frame buffer (because again, Alan Wake's final output was 720p and Remedy said something very similar about that as they have about Quantum Break's final output resolution and again it was right but very misunderstood)... but that doesn't mean there are never cases where that tradeoff is worth making.
In Alan Wake it was a trade off to do crazy draw distances with alpha textures and arguably the best real time lighting at the time. In Quantum Break... well I'm not sure. I'm purposefully avoiding footage of the game to try and go in relatively cold.
Think about it, if lighting had to give to get 720p on Alan Wake... yeah. No thanks. I'll take the version we got (well I'll take the PC version where you don't have to make any trade off at all, but still).
DeadOnions
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The drops and tearing are more worrying than the resolution for me. Still getting the game but I'm a bit concerned about immersion being broken.
IcyRhythms
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More comments on 720p than "Man, I can't wait to play this game"
lol
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Enter the Dragon Punch
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Game was native 1080p, not 900p.
Close, but not quite. It rendered at 1920x800. Nothing rendered under the black bars.
Novum_Veritas
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The only way to know for sure is, testing it yourself, or wait for reviews at the beginning of April.
I hope the V sync issues have been fixed in the final game, or at least with a day one patch. (Xbox One version)
I hope the V sync issues have been fixed in the final game, or at least with a day one patch. (Xbox One version)
900p
Chobel
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I can't find it, no matter what I googled. So I'll just have to admit I was wrong about that.
Night Angel
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Huh. I wonder if maybe, just maybe, it's because this is a tech thread specifically about the resolution/framerate/performance of the game and not how hype we all are.
plagiarize
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I don't think that argument ever really got settled.
Because technically it is 900p, in the same way that when you only do horizontal scaling but have 1080 lines, it's still 1080p even though it isn't 1 pixel to 1 pixel.
900p means 900 horizontal lines. The Order is 1920 x 900. That's simultaneously 1 pixel to 1 pixel on your display and 900p.
But to just call it 900p I've always felt was misleading, while correct on a technicality.
edit: I guess 800 lines perhaps.
Glorified G
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I know, crazy that there is more discussions around the technical aspects in a Digital Foundry thread.
LostDonkey
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If you've played Battlefield on XB1, you'll know why.
digoutyoursoul
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Game was native 1080p, not 900p.
Ok
Watch Dogs & Star Wars Battlefront
1080p or GTFO
Buys the game
Some bullshitters on here
plagiarize
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Take a clearly positive technical write up of the game. Pick the one bad aspect of the game and talk about nothing else. Win?
Hopefully they implement a free cam on PC again, so we can see just how big the world is outside the fenced off area the player finds themselves in. Alan Wake was *always* using the full single landscape for it's mountains and hills and forests. It just selectively loads in the roads, rivers and buildings required in each chapter, but on PC you can detach the camera and fly across the whole area and it's pretty massive. This is using the same engine... so I wonder...
Yeah people need to take that 720p shit to the tech analysis thread.
Yeah, my PC should be able to handle this at 1080p as well.
Cue additional 'Xbone 1.5 to the rescue' joke lol
It's actually really interesting, I didn't suspect Alan Wake to be SubHD but then again I was blown away by how stable it was performing despite all that it was rendering.
Feel free to call me blind or dumb, but for some reason it never occurred to me it was sub-HD while playing it.
I think what you mean is "More comments that are 720p flame fodder than any other positive/negative remarks"
A DF thread is mainly technical
Emm no.
900p is an standard resolution.
The Order 1886 is 1080p with 2.40:1 aspect ratio.
Your Blu-Ray movies with this ratio are 1080p, not 900p.
Also 1920*800 > 1600*900
timmyp53
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Make sure you look the door on your way out... of a freaking digital foundry thread.
digoutyoursoul
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So why is there a big deal over resolution when obviously frame rate is king?
"Ubisoft"
Yet people still bought the game
Next? Don't try that disingenuous shit with me mate
LostDonkey
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I'm stealing this lol
Make sure you look the door on your way out... of a freaking digital foundry thread.
lukeskymac
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"Smooth cinematic experience"
*Framerate drops to 23 for a second*
That's mean, DF.
*Framerate drops to 23 for a second*
That's mean, DF.
Fortunately one game has nothing to do with the other.
Tons of effects and animations means this isn't likely to improve pre- or post-release. Comparing it to other games that demand so much less really isn't fair. This was probably another reason Microsoft agreed to put the title on personal computer.
You're arguing against a point nobody is arguing for. People bought Watch Dogs & Star Wars Battlefront? Ok? Nobody is saying people won't buy Quantum Break.
Buy the game. Nobody gives a shit. People are discussing the technical aspects of Quantum Break. It's 720p/30fps, which isn't a prestigious 'kingly' frame rate, btw.
Also I wasn't being disingenuous. I was overtly pointing out that you're talking rubbish.