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How do we already know the price?
Laura Kate Dale leaked info from a source at UK retailer GAME.
How do we already know the price?
It'd be even stronger with this cool-looking indie RPG I've heard about.
Nintendo Switch should get:
Games developed by Nintendo (now all on one platform)
Games developed by 3DS developers
Games developed by Vita developers
Most big indie games (just look at how many indies the Vita & 3DS got despite being crippled power-wise)
Some games from Western 3rd party AAA developers
Unless the system bombs horribly, it should end up with one of the strongest libraries a Nintendo platform has ever seen.
The DS (still my pick for best gaming system ever) had fantastic third party support, and the GBA was no slouch.
Why do people act like the handheld side (my primary gaming side) doesn't exist?
Little Monser;226856683 said:The delusional haters in this thread telling WINtendo to leave the industry due to weak hardware
WINtendo have it all set with this console. Breath of FRESH AIR will end all, new Mario will trounce the competition, PokeSléy Stars will also blow the competition. Nintendo isn't in a position of worrying, it's the haters who are and they can keep iT. Poor them who cant see the light.
That's all I was ever after to be honest so I'm not upset.The narrative was always this.
3rd party is going to be fine, especially japanese and indies.
That's not how it works. Phones hold different thread priorities and have significantly different loads.
People develop on phones using development tools, like Swift. Switch supports UE4, Unity, etc, just like PS4 and X1. Specs don't really matter as long as the hardware supports the development tools. That's what everyone keeps neglecting to understand, mostly because they see numbers (that they also don't understand) and just make dumb assumptions.
By your comparison, it's disappointing at how terrible the PS4 Pro is compared to a medium specced PC.
People need to stop treating this like a hone console.
For handheld mode it still outperforms Wii U, that alone is awesome.
The GPU not hitting full X1 speeds while docked is pretty lame though, but it's enough to at least push higher resolutions.
People need to stop treating this like a hone console.
Lol joke post? Nintendo is certainly in trouble with those specs when it launches next year.Little Monser;226856683 said:The delusional haters in this thread telling WINtendo to leave the industry due to weak hardware
WINtendo have it all set with this console. Breath of FRESH AIR will end all, new Mario will trounce the competition, PokeSléy Stars will also blow the competition. Nintendo isn't in a position of worrying, it's the haters who are and they can keep iT. Poor them who cant see the light.
We signed up with Nintendo right after the Switch announcement, but we haven't been able to get a dev kit yet. I'm guessing they're not going to provide any Switch devkits for developers that aren't already major partners with Nintendo until after the system comes out.
The thing that has me most excited about Switch and the thing that I think is sort of underrated in terms of its potential success is the fact that Nintendo will be consolidating their development houses behind one platform for the first time in decades. This is what might create the biggest difference between the Switch and the Wii U, GameCube and even the Wii. Anecdotally, it's why I've personally passed on Nintendo the last couple of generations. Their console libraries were not robust enough to merit the cost of the hardware for me, and while the handhelds seemed to get a solid library of first party games, I just could not get passed the horrible, dated tech and shitty displays. It might not be a tech powerhouse and it probably will get shitty third party support, but behind one platform I think Nintendo has the ability to singlehandedly support one successful platform. Does this mean it will sell as much as PS4 or Wii? Probably not, but for the Nintendo of 2016, the Nintendo that is branching out to mobile and theme parks and possibly movies or tv, if probably doesn't have to.
They showed it for what it isThen dont show it as one in your reveal trailer. Show it as a handheld period.
Yeeeup. Wii U games still look gorgeous in the face of PS4/Xbone. Now I get one unified Nintendo library and portable Wii U level graphics? Sign me the hell up.In other words, the games will look great and I will no longer miss all of the titles that used to go exclusively to a handheld and I will also be able to play them on my TV. Sounds pretty good.
With those leaks, are we still sure the portable form is as powerful as the WiiU ?
I read from someone here the docked switch would be 50% more powerful than a WiiU. But the portable is less than half as powerful than the docked switch..
Wouldn't that give us :
_WiiU = 100
_Switch docked = 150
_Switch portable = 75
?
I'm just asking.
It just seems everyone in all those threads always seems so certain about everything, like the third parties, like the way more powerful Switch.. They never let any doubt in their hopes.. It's time to be realistic.
And no, the footage at Fallon didn't show if the game was the same, upgraded OR downgraded from WiiU when portable. We can't say anything.
Then dont show it as one in your reveal trailer. Show it as a handheld period.
100% with you. Hated the idea of a hybrid this whole time. Loved the idea of a singular OS platform and you choose how you want to play your universal game on the platform of your desire.
Yeah my post wasn't that cynical, but it stioll quite funny how some tries to stretch every piece of rumor or intel to fiot their beliefs.It reminds me a lot of the Xbox not being that inferior to the ps4 here.
And wait no one mentionned any secret sauce here (although soime can argue that Nvidia is the secret sauce here).
But all in all it will be less powerful than an OG xbox one even if some here thinks it will be a portable Ps4
Pssst... I'll let you in on a secret.
The people going "I'm out!" because its not a portable thats twice as powerful as a PS4 at half the price?
They weren't actually interested in the first place.
Shocking, I know.
That people would lie on the internet to console warz.
The majority of the reveal was it being played in handheld mode.Then dont show it as one in your reveal trailer. Show it as a handheld period.
This is definitely more of a successor to the 3DS than it is the Wii U.
Kinda feels that in that sense, Nintendo is pseudo-leaving the home console market. Huh.
Do developers want to sell there easy to converted Low-Setting PC-Version of there AAA games (like FIFA or Battlefield) on the console/handheld, which sells millions of the original Pokemon, Mario and Zelda games ? I would say, yes. If Nintendo this times bring the right tools, the 3rd parties will bite.The reality is that the Switch is highly unlikely to sell enough devices for AAA devs who also want to sell on the XB1/PS4, to limit the scope of their games so that they could run on the Switch. The Switch game sales wouldn't make up for the loss of game sales on the XB1/PS4 due to the game not comparing favorably to other games designed to take full advantage of the more powerful consoles.
I don't really care about the HW power too much, but the problem is is that 3rd parties are gonna dry up after launch and we'll be in drought territory soon enough.
I really hope that the Japanese devs view this as a 3DS/Vita successor and start releasing great games for it, but Sony's presence is too strong compared to passive ass Nintendo. It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo loses Japanese 3rd parties as well, even if the Switch sells more than the PS4.
Pssst... I'll let you in on a secret.
The people going "I'm out!" because its not a portable thats twice as powerful as a PS4 at half the price?
They weren't actually interested in the first place.
Shocking, I know.
That people would lie on the internet to console warz.
The thing that has me most excited about Switch and the thing that I think is sort of underrated in terms of its potential success is the fact that Nintendo will be consolidating their development houses behind one platform for the first time in decades. This is what might create the biggest difference between the Switch and the Wii U, GameCube and even the Wii. Anecdotally, it's why I've personally passed on Nintendo the last couple of generations. Their console libraries were not robust enough to merit the cost of the hardware for me, and while the handhelds seemed to get a solid library of first party games, I just could not get passed the horrible, dated tech and shitty displays. It might not be a tech powerhouse and it probably will get shitty third party support, but behind one platform I think Nintendo has the ability to singlehandedly support one successful platform. Does this mean it will sell as much as PS4 or Wii? Probably not, but for the Nintendo of 2016, the Nintendo that is branching out to mobile and theme parks and possibly movies or tv, if probably doesn't have to.
They showed it for what it is
Just because it doesn't fit your thin definition of home console doesn't mean it can't be used as one
Are people seriously expecting this thing to cost $200 at launch? What did the base Wii U cost at launch? $300?
I'd imagine this starts at $300-$350. There's no way Nintendo sells it for a loss, and they have R&D costs to make up.
We do know that the Fallon footage was a rock solid 30fps. Most assessments I've seen thought the game looks better as well with improved draw distances. But any of that is speculation at this point given the offscreen/projector nature of the footage. At the very least the game didn't look to be at all different visual wise, but there certainly was better performance. That much is for sure. Would be kind of weird to downgrade it to run solid on the Switch, but not the Wii U which we've seen at E3 and the VGAs have frame rate issues.
From a purely clock speed perspective handheld mode might be less than that of a Wii U, but architecturally and API wise it could be a lot more modern and efficient, thus preform better despite the low clocks and flops. But I am in no way versed in this kind of stuff, but that's the impression I've gotten from discussions like this.
For handheld mode it still outperforms Wii U, that alone is awesome.
The GPU not hitting full X1 speeds while docked is pretty lame though, but it's enough to at least push higher resolutions.
People need to stop treating this like a hone console.
As if they'd suddenly change, after the DS, Wii, 3DS and Wii U were all hilariously underpowered. What were you guys expecting lolWhat the hell, Nintendo. The specs seems really low...
People like Nintendo?People need to stop treating this like a hone console.
Porting tools matter just as much as specs. While it's unreasonable to expect something like the Wii U to get high end PS4/XBO ports, it didn't even get many PS3/360 ports because it was cumbersome to develop for and the financial investment wasn't worth it.
If Switch sells well and is also easy to develop for, then it will get a share of third party support. Just don't expect those versions to be the best ones, the main incentive for Switch versions will be portability.
It'll be a great console regardless. I was just hoping for the "XBone power" so it would encourage third parties to make ports for it. But I guess if Skyrim Remastered can run as well as Dark Souls 3 maybe it'll still get 3rd party ports.
Have to see what happens. But even after this negative article I'm still excited for the Switch
People need to stop treating this like a home console.
For handheld mode it still outperforms Wii U, that alone is awesome.
The GPU not hitting full X1 speeds while docked is pretty lame though, but it's enough to at least push higher resolutions.
People need to stop treating this like a hone console.
It would be even weaker and have worse battery life if you'd gotten what you wantedMy idea exavtly
To tell the truth i just wanted a dual screen handheld