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Digital Foundry: Nintendo Switch CPU and GPU clock speeds revealed
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It doesn't. The CPU is better, the RAM is better, but the GPU is weaker than Wii U on paper and no more than 10% faster in practice. It's just a Wii U with better hardware that can play Wii U-level games with newer effects (not necessarily better) at 720p on the go and 1080p at home.
This is my biggest question.
Not just Skyrim but some folks saying it wont have a problem running multi platform games, ports.
SinCityAssassin
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I wonder what the other known insiders are gonna say about this one.
Tertullian
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But the money question: if it really is 153 GPU GFlops in portable mode, is it actually weaker than the Wii U? I understand GFlops don't always translate 1-to-1?
(Alternative post: I dunno about your analysis Durante. According to this rumor, sounds like it's just one great big Flop! Oh shit, you see what I did there?)
OrbitalBeard
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No reasonable person thought this. None. And this is still more powerful than a Wii U.
That being said, it is a bit weaker than I was expecting.
Jose92
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Usually in the mobile space they measure the performance of the gpu in the number of operation it can do half precision or FP16. So when converted into full precision the number is halved.
Pancakes R Us
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Very interesting, didn't think about price. What was the Shield price point at? This thing should come in around $200 mark given these specs, hopefully.
Kingpin Rogers
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Being a Nintendo fan is basically the equivalent of being an Arsenal one. Every time a new system is announced I hear how it won't be too far behind and they won't make the same mistakes again, but in the end, it's disappointingly weak and we're forced to accept it. Just like Arsenal, I hear how it's always gonna be our season and then the same mistakes happen again and we're forced to accept it.
Sidewinder
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I'm in the same boat, to me this is the Vita 2 we'll never get with sweet sweet Nintendo games!
WiiU owners and people who don't care about handhelds can be disappointed though.
Crossing my fingers for it to be really unexpensive.
JoshuaJSlone
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So why slower than standard X1, but needing more active cooling?
It actually works out pretty well if the intent is to make games 720p on the portable but 1080p on TV. 2.25x as many pixels, 2.5x the GPU speed.Trago said:
LiquidSolid
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You were expecting anything remotely close to the Scorpio? Forget the PS4, this makes the Xbone look like a beast.
That said, I'm happy with this news. I already have a PS4 and a PC, all I want from this is a cheap device that plays Nintendo (and some niche Japanese) games on a TV and on the go.
Can Crusher
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Dying to see the price. 150$?
Fallout-NL
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You really think it's going to be that cheap?
Skittzo0413
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Yes the article explicitly says they don't know the core count, they're only taking the "leaked" specs as indicative of the core count.
Either way this is all very odd. What do they even gain by clocking it so low if it's a normal 2SM chip? Battery life I guess? Then what is the point of having a fan in the portable at all?
No I wouldn't.
Thing is, it seems to be equal as a Wii U when portable, which sounds acceptable to me.
I won't lie, these specs are lower than I expected though. But at least it's way stronger than a Wii U when docked, so at least if I'm getting 1080p MK8/Zelda when docked, I'll be a happy panda.
I hope it'll be 199$ US though (which will probably translate to 249$ CAD), because anything higher will be disappointing.
outunderthestars
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Tablet and Android TV both come in around $200 with a healthy margin.
That said, I think it will hit at $249
Streaming from what?
Relaxed Muscle
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That will teach us to expect better from Ninty.
Kenzodielocke
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Is handheld mode a must for devs?
Well it seems good for a portable. So it's essentially just an extension and repackaging of what they've been doing.
More different effects too, no? Or did the Wii U GPU ditch fixed functions?
More different effects too, no? Or did the Wii U GPU ditch fixed functions?
USD$199.
Nintendo is well known to overprice their weak hardware.
Look at the Wii, look at the Wii U, look at the 3DS at launch.
PinkyMonkey
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Well this wee will be "industry leading chips" compared to DS.
Huh? That's on Wii U, though. On Switch it seemed pretty smooth
shinobi602
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This is Nintendo so don't get too happy yet.
Lol. Throw in another benjamin.
outunderthestars
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Agreed, but the problem is, as posters have pointed out, Nintendo is marketing it as a home console.
Yeah, like 3DS getting good third party support. Rumor has it Monster Hunter is leaving Nintendo for PS4 and when it's gone there will be nothing else left but Etrian Odyssey and Inazuma Eleven.
Seriously, this sounds like a freaking crisis for Nintendo. I hope they're paying western third party some very good money to keep them there. Otherwise NoA and NoE shutting down will be reality.
kraspkibble
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iPad Pro has a 12.9" screen (2048x2732 resolution/264ppi). the CPU is an A9X which is dual core and runs at 2.26GHz. It's GPU can do between 100 GFLOPS to 1.5 TFLOPS.
Switch has a 6.2" screen (1280x720 resolution/236ppi). cpu runs at 1.02GHz. and it seems in portable mode the GPU should do 150GFLOPS. not sure about docked mode.
This.
If is really underpowered price is key to deliver some success. Anyway if 3rd party ports are compromised because of power, Nintendo ips may be enough to keep it alive, but it won't stand a chance against PS4/XBO
Can't wait to revisit all the posts now!
It's a race to the bottom really, I remember in 2011 when i said that the Project Café to be up to task should at least have reached the 1TF/s mark aaaah what fool i was... not even its successor manages to reach that level of performance (not that was i expecting it since the picture of the hybrid console was made clear).
Never bet on Nintendo... or always bet on their consoles to underperform even the most tragic hypothesis.
If they manage to sell this for like 175€/$ then i could be on board with lowered expectations but again knowing nintendo and the recent pricing failures of WiiU and 3ds i could see them being arrogant as fuck a release this for +250€/$
It's a race to the bottom really, I remember in 2011 when i said that the Project Café to be up to task should at least have reached the 1TF/s mark aaaah what fool i was... not even its successor manages to reach that level of performance (not that was i expecting it since the picture of the hybrid console was made clear).
Never bet on Nintendo... or always bet on their consoles to underperform even the most tragic hypothesis.
If they manage to sell this for like 175€/$ then i could be on board with lowered expectations but again knowing nintendo and the recent pricing failures of WiiU and 3ds i could see them being arrogant as fuck a release this for +250€/$
SinCityAssassin
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The Wii undercut all its competition by more than a hundred bucks.
DOT DASH DOT
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And this why I hate Nintendo, such low powered shite! 3rd party devs will not develop games with this crap in mind, yet again Nintendo are not 'getting' it.
Kssio_Aug
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It still can be. Not a new gen "graphically wise", but Nintendo Switch main selling point seems to be the convenience and portability, the play anywhere feature. if they price it right and people adhere the idea, it could mean a "new gen" in terms of idea, just like Wii meant.
outunderthestars
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I personally don't care as I have no interest in third party Switch games.
PdotMichael
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Disappointing and worse than many people expected.
And was essentially last-gen hardware.
Backfoggen
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At least it won't heat up too much this way.
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