Every PSVR game so far was played by both journalists and regular people on base PS4s. And the games look great regardless.
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Driveclub VR gameplay.
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Every PSVR game so far was played by both journalists and regular people on base PS4s. And the games look great regardless.
Regular of course. Neo gameplay won't be shown until after the actual Sony announcement.
60fps is the bare minimum requirement if you're trying to make any PSVR game, therefore, yes.
Always-honest
Banned
That looks really good for VR...
That's a shame about assetto corsa, guess GT might do for a more sim experience but I hope it comes to assetto corsa eventually.
Still I am looking forward to this game, I think DC is damn good as is.
It would automatically be 200% more appealing if Sony did that, but we damn well know Sony ain't gonna make any official PC drivers. Our best bet is custom homebrew PC drivers for the PSVR. Here's hoping for that at least.
Reallink
Member
Thank you, I'm aware, just wanted to keep it easy for everyone to understand in using what they're familiar with. I do of course mean the referenced titles are likely rendering below 960x1080. Barring that, it's also possible most other games are super sampled while the criticized offenders are not. Regardless, there does seem to be significant resolution discrepancies. Even Rift and Vive have this problem on infinitely more powerful hardware, certainly an OG PS4 is not going to have resolution parity across every title.
AngelOFDeath
Member
This looks pretty cool. To get the full experience I am going to have to sell a kidney
n0razi
Member
Its still not good enough IMHO due to lack of G-Forces when cornering. I instantly get nausea through the corners even with the Rift CV1.
Let me know when these are affordable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFCRh-anfRg
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
What you are seeing in YouTube looks a hell of a lot better than what the person with the VR headset has on is seeing.
Screen door effect and the pixelation of viewing the screen that close will destroy the image quality.
The Rift is a more premium headset and the difference between the outside screen and the VR experience was shocking. I can only imagine the differences here will be just as stark if not more.
Screen door effect and the pixelation of viewing the screen that close will destroy the image quality.
The Rift is a more premium headset and the difference between the outside screen and the VR experience was shocking. I can only imagine the differences here will be just as stark if not more.
No, not a hell lot better. Social screen feed that is created on the fly by that small processing unit is a cropped image of the one eye that is transformed back from fisheye to flat view. Resolution of that end image is not great.
User inside headset has much larger FOV, lower latency and higher framerate.
I haven't used Rift nor Vive yet. Will do the latter in 2 weeks or so. But anyway, PS VR has more subpixels which helps offset it to some extent. the screen door effect is there, but it's barely present. I stopped noticing it after a few seconds when I played the heist demo.
I assume he's talking about IQ, not framerate, latency or actual FOV. Which is lower inside the headset because of the resolution and SDE. But it usually doesn't matter all that much because that's not the attractive part of VR. At least, not yet.
Even with all this said, Driveclub VR will still be an incredible VR driving experience. There is not a single doubt about this and that is where the excitement comes into play.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I've owned a Rift and used a Vive and yes; it is a hell of a different experience between the external display and the VR headset.
Unless the PSVR has some secret sauce that lets it be more clear at lower resolutions then the competition it must still be applicable.
Just because you don't notice the pixelation after moving for 5 minutes doesn't mean the image quality improves to that of the external display.
Just trying to encourage those with no VR experience to temper their expectations.
Yautja_Warrior
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Looks great, can't wait to play this. I'm not seeing any massive downgrades either, from the TV screen, which is pretty impressive with it running at 60fps, any downgrades are hidden very well.
fastest finger
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Everyone is welcome their own opinion, of course. But having tried an early version of PSVR, I'm happy none of that means a thing once I'm dropped into that virtual world.
People can count pixels all they want. For me, presence trumps resolution every time. Bring it on.
Everyone should try this thing and make their own decision.
DemonCleaner
Member
he's freaked out
HYPE
HYPE
diablos991, by now most of us here have had actual hands on with the PSVR demo kiosks in Best Buy and Vive at MS store. I think most know what's to be expected yet there is still a ton of excitement. But I thank you for trying to encourage those with no VR experience to temper expectations...
Oh sorry, I agreed with you. Was unclear there.
I was just replying to the "I can only imagine the differences here will be just as stark if not more." part. Saying that it's probably not much different than going from offscreen to headset for rift or ps vr. Of course, IQ is going to be lower on ps vr than rift because of a ps4 is outmatched by a pc, but that %age difference is probably close to the same because of the additional subpixels (versus more actual pixels on the others).
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I do agree with that. VR is something that is difficult to review or convey in words. People really need to try the headsets (ideally before buying). VR impacts people in many different ways.
I look forward to trying PSVR in hopes if doesn't give me the sickness the Rift and Vive did. To me the sickness and bad IQ are game killers at the moment.
John Wick
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Yeah it's kinda ridiculous that before everyone used to say they'd take framerate above resolution and gameplay above graphics. Now all of a sudden the graphics are the most important thing. Statements like they look like shit or PS3 etc. The gameplay and immersion and chiefly fun should be the important metrics???
People just want reasons to complain.
Kinda offtopic but the contrast in narrative from last generation to this generation is quite hilarious in terms of what you just described. Sad part is the "games journalists" that fed into this shit nonstop last generation suddenly shift in direction/narrative/focus this generation. I do find it amusing to say the least lol.
fastest finger
Member
Yep.
When we progressed from 16-bit to 32-bit consoles, I always felt graphics and performance took a backwards step in some ways.
But the shift to 3D gaming worlds and the possibilities they created made it a worthwhile sacrifice.
Hardware and software makers are facing a steep learning curve right now, but the potential benefits for the future are very exciting. I'm a gamer happy to be a part of it.
Zepp Twofist
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Framerate objectively is the most important thing in vr tho. Going below target is literally unplayable.
mckmas8808
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YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
eyeball_kid
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I've been thinking about cancelling my PSVR preorder, but between this and Rez I might stay in. I'm wondering what the experience would be like without a wheel though? I'm not sure I'm of the age anymore where I feel like setting up a driving wheel in my living room. I don't play DC with a wheel now, but I've heard using a DS4 can be confusing for the brain in PSVR games where you control movement.
sidenote: I really like the PS Access UK people. I always enjoy their coverage much more than most of the gaming "media personalities" people on GAF seem to love.
sidenote: I really like the PS Access UK people. I always enjoy their coverage much more than most of the gaming "media personalities" people on GAF seem to love.
UpUpDownDown
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I can whole heartedly reccomend the ts150 as a great low cost option for ps4/PC.
It's essentially the guts if the ts350 in a cheaper case. Very much occupying the spot the driving force GT occupied last gen.
Patrick S.
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DangerMouse
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Man, this looks great.
Aint gonna do no makeshift shit.
Patrick S.
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NullPointer
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That looked fun as hell. Much better visuals than I expected from the transition to VR too.
Its the first thing I've seen that made me interested in VR so far, honestly. But I also know all of those tracks so damn well by now in the normal 2D version - and I don't know if that would hurt or help the experience.
Its the first thing I've seen that made me interested in VR so far, honestly. But I also know all of those tracks so damn well by now in the normal 2D version - and I don't know if that would hurt or help the experience.
vitalogy11
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I don't think most have. Even those trying to correct others who on commenting it looks great on the split out video are way off.
I describe it as taking your monitor and wrapping it around your head (if it was bendable).Then zooming the image out so that it appears in 3d and you can see clearly.
No matter how great the game looks and is made for 3d, you will still see the screen/pixles and even feel that the monitor is right on your nose. Text and things will be blurry and dim. That's not the game, that's just the Vr Tech and the side effect of having a screen that close to your eyes.
After a while you don't notice it because you are playing a game and the 3d/360 immersion overrides your brain.
Patrick S.
Banned
I imagine it must feel like looking through binoculars?
Yeah, the subpixel count is really important.
For people wondering what, comparison for pentile (what rift/vive are using) vs rgb (what psvr is using) running at the same resolution:
Now PSVR is going to be running at a lower resolution (the rift and the vive have 1.25 times the number of pixels psvr has), but as you can see from the image above though, RGB that PSVR is using looks better than pentile does at the same resolution. So honestly, in the end, the quality the PSVR headset is capable of displaying is not going to be that far off from the rift or the vive headsets on the market right now even though it is lower res. I think the bluriness that some people are reporting is a mix of badly adjusted headsets, and the games themselves being rendered at a lower resolution than the display is capable of rather than being due to the actual quality/capability of the headset itself.
Interesting. I'll give this a look, as my PC is hooked up to the same TV as my consoles. Thanks.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Racing in VR is so freaking cool. I grinned from ear to ear my entire first play session of Live For Speed with my G20 and Oculus DK2. Project Cars on CV1 is even beyond that. But yea like the guy says in the video, naturally being able to use your mirrors and just look around at opponents cars to judge distance while racing is downright amazing the first time it happens to you. Because you will just do it without even thinking and then a moment later you're like "HOLY SHIT I just did that and it worked!" Really excited for you PSVR guys to get your first impressions.