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[Mihael Mello Keehl]

They're setting up to give Mario Odyssey a 10

 

[EmiPrime]

Sonic Mania: 7

Ouch. Looks like it's not the return to form people expected...

That's the opposite of what the review text says.

 

[Toxi]

That's the opposite of what the review text says.

You expect them to actually read reviews?

 

[Squire]

That's a great quote about LL. It's a great game and it really trims the fat.

 

[EmiPrime]

You expect them to actually read reviews?

Even a one sentence excerpt is too much for some it seems!

 

[FiveSide]

Ouch, that's a pretty damning score for Matterfall. Shame.

It's amazing how well Mario + Rabbids is reviewing. I'm not sure what's the bigger miracle, the fact that the game even exists, or that it's apparently a legitimately good game.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Sonic Mania: 7

Ouch. Looks like it's not the return to form people expected...

Quit.
You were never ahead.

 

[Rellik]

I don't care about pointless review scores, but I did get the mag a few days ago and wanted to say that Assassin's Creed cover is beautiful.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Excellent scores for Mario/Rabbids, Lawbreakers, and Uncharted.

Such a shame Lawbreakers is in such a bad spot.

 

[Oblivion]

That's the opposite of what the review text says.

You expect them to actually read reviews?

Even a one sentence excerpt is too much for some it seems!

Quit.
You were never ahead.

That's all really funny and all, but a 7 is a 7.

And I took their explanation to mean that it was a return to doing things the genesis games did (such as getting rid of the all the shitty friends) but not an overall return to form.

edit: and wait

You expect them to actually read reviews?

What do you mean "them"? Are you suggesting I have some agenda against this game?

 

[Gitaroo]

Thought knack 2 was great, easily 8.5 for me.

 

[Realeza]

A Rabbids game is better than your favorite game. Let that sink for a second.

 

[nelo_inc]

Tremendous score for Mario + Rabbids, a really surprise for me the reviews on this one.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

A Rabbids game is better than your favorite game. Let that sink for a second.

It's not better than Resident Evil 4, Bloodborne, or Breath of the Wild

Spoiler

but it's damn good

 

[Primethius]

A Rabbids game is better than your favorite game. Let that sink for a second.

I believed since the concept was leaked. Ubisoft served so much crow.

 

[Lingitiz]

Sonic Mania: 7

Ouch. Looks like it's not the return to form people expected...

I mean there a ton of reviews and impressions out there with people saying the opposite. One middling score from a respected publication doesn't automatically invalidate the general sentiment that it is indeed a great game and return to form.

 

[Trojita]

EDGE reviews have been kind of shit for the past few months. I don't agree with a lot of their recent reviews and scores.

 

[JayCB]

Lawbreakers: 8 "It's proof, among other things, that veteran design talent really does mean something - and that the shooters of the late '90s still have something to teach the modern games industry"

Oh, whoops, they put the player count where the score is supposed to go by mistake.

edit - dang it, Curufinwe pretty much beat me to it.

 

[Toxi]

edit: and wait

What do you mean "them"? Are you suggesting I have some agenda against this game?

No, I'm suggesting you're one of many people who thinks we need a hot take based purely on the number at the end of a written review.

 

[Oblivion]

No, I'm suggesting you're one of many people who thinks we need a hot take based purely on the number at the end of a written review.

But numbers have meaning.

 

[CharminUltra]

Oh, whoops, they put the player count where the score is supposed to go by mistake.

edit - dang it, Curufinwe pretty much beat me to it.

That's actually the average total playtime in minutes.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

But numbers have meaning.

Selectively just Edge's.
Bad try.
You're just not good at this.

 

[brad-t]

But numbers have meaning.

Sure, but it's not an objective meaning. For one thing, a 7 from one outlet isn't the same as a 7 from another. I think it's a respectable score coming from EDGE, who seem to use more of the numerical scale than other outlets. More importantly, what one outlet says about a game is hardly definitive.

 

[Oblivion]

Selectively just Edge's.
Bad try.
You're just not good at this.

This is an Edge specific thread, and lots of people (myself included) hold value in their scores. I don't know what you're trying to get at here?

 

[kinggroin]

This is an Edge specific thread, and lots of people (myself included) hold value in their scores. I don't know what you're trying to get at here?

The only score that matters then? Yes or no.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Knack 2 a 5 and Agents of Mayhem a 4? Ok.

I mean yeah? Pretty mediocre games.

Matterfall, Knack 2 and Sonic Mania are all atleast 2 points too low.

No clue on Matterfall, would give Sonic an 8, and Knack is right where it belongs.

I don't, but Knack 2 isn't a 5 for any human being with common sense.

How isn't it? Meh controls, a cliche ridden story with equally cliche ridden dialogue and derpy characters. Combat consists of what, 4 or 5 moves max?

It looks neat i guess.

Don't have the issue yet, but it wouldn't at all surprise me if the Sonic Mania review complained about the difficulty ("trial and error," "blind hazards"). The outlet seems ill-equipped right now to judge skill-based platforming (Ori is very difficult, apparently). I expect Cuphead to suffer a similar fate.

Blind hazards have nothing to do with difficulty though. When learning a level inside out to not run in these things is the only way circumventing them I'd harly call that skill based platforming.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

This is an Edge specific thread, and lots of people (myself included) hold value in their scores. I don't know what you're trying to get at here?

Everyone knows what you are though.

 

[Oblivion]

The only score that matters then? Yes or no.

Of course not. But it's also one to take into account, no?

Everyone knows what you are though.

Whatever you say, brosef.

edit:

Sure, but it's not an objective meaning. For one thing, a 7 from one outlet isn't the same as a 7 from another. I think it's a respectable score coming from EDGE, who seem to use more of the numerical scale than other outlets. More importantly, what one outlet says about a game is hardly definitive.

Okay, this is fair.

 

[EmiPrime]

Everyone knows what you are though.

Yeah not worth the aggro of having to explain that someone can think a game is good (7) but not be as into it as fans of the old games and their design (who might give it a 8 or 9) over and over. It's tedious and it should have been obvious from the excerpt.

 

[kinggroin]

Of course not. But it's also one to take into account, no?

Following this ONE score, you said, and I'm paraphrasing, "Guess it's not a return to form"

 

[Oblivion]

Following this ONE score, you said, and I'm paraphrasing, "Guess it's not a return to form"

Because again, we're in an Edge specific thread and there's no other scores posted here to compare it to?

 

[Arkeband]

I'd agree with a 7 for Mania - just because it's the best Sonic game since Knuckles doesn't mean that it's overly long levels, terrible last level, subpar music and poorly explained unlock system shouldn't be held against it. It's still a great game, although firing up S3&K after it reminds one what perfection actually is.

 

[kinggroin]

Because again, we're in an Edge specific thread and there's no other scores posted here to compare it to?

No. It means your conclusion is fucking stupid and inflammatory.


Maybe next time try, "Guess Edge doesn't think as highly of it as everyone else"

Edit: fwiw, I agree with the 7

 

[Dead End Irony]

I'd agree with a 7 for Mania - just because it's the best Sonic game since Knuckles doesn't mean that it's overly long levels, terrible last level, subpar music and poorly explained unlock system shouldn't be held against it. It's still a great game, although firing up S3&K after it reminds one what perfection actually is.

Oh dear god!

EDIT: And it's funny that people feel the levels were too long. I feel Mania's biggest flaw is that some of the levels were criminally short.

 

[Messofanego]

EDGE reviews have been kind of shit for the past few months. I don't agree with a lot of their recent reviews and scores.

You can disagree but how have they been shit reviews? Elaborate.

 

[PaulloDEC]

How isn't it? Meh controls, a cliche ridden story with equally cliche ridden dialogue and derpy characters. Combat consists of what, 4 or 5 moves max?

It looks neat i guess.

Pretty much everyone I've seen talking about the game (with the exception being Jim Sterling) has had good things to say about the controls.

Moves include

Spoiler

punch, kick, multi-punch, charge-punch, jump-kick, bicycle-kick, body slam, hookshot, stun boomerang, charge-dash, dash-punch and dash-kick modifiers and more. In your Sunstone-overloaded form, there's also Sunstone swords, a shockwave body-slam and relic tornado attacks. Probably more I've not seen, too. Finally, different elemental Knacks (Ice, Iron, Metal) have different basic and charge attacks of their own.

 

[Trojita]

You can disagree but how have they been shit reviews? Elaborate.

They're shit to me. It's subjective.

 

[bomma_man]

They're shit to me. It's subjective.

So you don't have an issue with the quality of the writing or analysis, just that they don't line up with your opinions?

 

[Arkeband]

Oh dear god!

EDIT: And it's funny that people feel the levels were too long. I feel Mania's biggest flaw is that some of the levels were criminally short.

Go back and play Chemical Plant Zone in Sonic 2, it's at least half as long, without some of the more sour sections. (one where you get stuck in a room with bouncy liquid and only one small non-obvious exit comes to mind).

Anyone who feels they were "criminally short" must really misremember the length of classic Sonic zones.

The best music in Mania is its remixed/reused tracks from S3&K, by a long shot.

 

[Toxi]

The best music in Mania is its remixed/reused tracks from S3&K, by a long shot.

No way. Studiopolis acts 1 and 2, Mirage Saloon Act 2, and Press Garden Act 2 are wonderful.

 

[neojubei]

Didn't expect much from Agents of Mayhem. it looks like a game to buy if its a 20 and under sale or steam summer sale for 5 bucks,

 

[Usobuko]

Yeah, buying Rabbids here.

 

[dlauv]

The best music in Mania is its remixed/reused tracks from S3&K, by a long shot.

Which ones?

I liked MMZ act 1 and 2 the most.

 

[Dead End Irony]

Go back and play Chemical Plant Zone in Sonic 2, it's at least half as long, without some of the more sour sections. (one where you get stuck in a room with bouncy liquid and only one small non-obvious exit comes to mind).

Anyone who feels they were "criminally short" must really misremember the length of classic Sonic zones.

The best music in Mania is its remixed/reused tracks from S3&K, by a long shot.

Funny you say that. I replayed S3&K (my top 5 game off all time) before Mania's release and I was ready for half of those stages to end as soon as they began, so I felt they dragged on way longer than Mania's. Enjoyment has a lot to do with it and Mania is overall the best classic Sonic experience to me.

Different strokes though. I don't care what anyone says, Press Garden and Mirage Saloon Act 2 were way too short lol.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

EDGE reviews have been kind of shit for the past few months. I don't agree with a lot of their recent reviews and scores.

A 9 for Arms and a 6 for Tekken 7 is just a head scratcher

 

[Dash Kappei]

I hope they score Sonic Forces higher than Sonic Mania for the lulz. Like, a 7.5-ish.

That will never happen.

 

[F0rneus]

Go back and play Chemical Plant Zone in Sonic 2, it's at least half as long, without some of the more sour sections. (one where you get stuck in a room with bouncy liquid and only one small non-obvious exit comes to mind).

Anyone who feels they were "criminally short" must really misremember the length of classic Sonic zones.

The best music in Mania is its remixed/reused tracks from S3&K, by a long shot.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

I'd agree with a 7 for Mania - just because it's the best Sonic game since Knuckles doesn't mean that it's overly long levels, terrible last level, subpar music and poorly explained unlock system shouldn't be held against it. It's still a great game, although firing up S3&K after it reminds one what perfection actually is.

You complain about overly long levels and then say S3&K is perfect?

That's a headscratcher of a statement if I ever saw one.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Sonic Mania: 7

Ouch. Looks like it's not the return to form people expected...

This can't possibly be a serious post.

There's no way.

 

[remz]

I'd agree with a 7 for Mania - just because it's the best Sonic game since Knuckles doesn't mean that it's overly long levels, terrible last level, subpar music and poorly explained unlock system shouldn't be held against it. It's still a great game, although firing up S3&K after it reminds one what perfection actually is.

Your posts are making me grind my teeth so fucking bad dude and I can't even put my finger on why