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[jm89]

I don't believe that. If this is just because of confusion, then why did Bethesda explicitly say to Eurogamer that they can't review the game and only Digital Foundry can play the game?

Metro UK are also claiming they were in contact with bethesda for weeks and told they would get one. I don't know if they got one now with all this out in the public, legitimate comms issues seems laughable.

 

[mitchman]

So you’re openly supporting publishers fucking around with free and open journalism because they’ve published something you don’t like?

THIS^^. Many people in this thread doesn't understand how bad this can be. If publishers only sent review copies to publications that gave them favorable reviews, it would force publications to give more favorable reviews than they normally would, or end up on the blacklist. We'd end up with reviews that didn't reflect the real quality of games. Is this what you people want?

 

[Hudo]

So you’re openly supporting publishers fucking around with free and open journalism because they’ve published something you don’t like?

I agree with your sentiment but please let's not call gaming blogs and streamers journalists. All of them have shown that they aren't interested journalistic methodology.

 

[Hudo]

But that's my point: it can't be an error.

They explicitly mentioned that DF can play the game, but EG cannot. Then they also didn't supply EG their own review copy. It means it was a properly planned and conscious decision.

EG has gotten a copy now, but only after this news blew up after their article. That also shows that Microsoft/Bethesda could have provided them a copy but chose not to. When it started blowing up on social media, they quickly provided EG a copy in less than 60 minutes.

Based on this, I don't think it was a communication error in Microsoft. I think they curated a list of outlets that they wanted to review the game on launch day and only provided copies to them.

Metro UK are also claiming they were in contact with bethesda for weeks and told they would get one. I don't know if they got one now with all this out in the public, legitimate comms issues seems laughable.

Well, then it is what it is. Not the best light Microsoft present themselves in.

 

[Shut0wen]

Sounds like they can wait for the 1/10 and let the rest fall into place first.

Honestly bethesda giving them the game late already takes 2 out of 5 stars, they already did it to 2 other games

 

[adamsapple]

More than dead... The information about videogames is in the hands of people like that.
Reviews before playing a Game ... LOL


The truth is that I do not understand such a lack of neurons and that this does not imply a penalty but the opposite... I do not understand how someone who sees these things can later take seriously the opinions, evaluations and content about video games (or about anything) of people like that.

I haven't played the game but I have feelings

 

[PanzerCute]

They shit all over Kingdom Come: Deliverance and the game's rep really tanked because of this

Oh yeah I remember these assholes complaining about 15th century Poland not being diverse enough.

What a bunch of dangerous and retarded people.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

More than dead... The information about videogames is in the hands of people like that.
Reviews before playing a Game ... LOL


The truth is that I do not understand such a lack of neurons and that this does not imply a penalty but the opposite... I do not understand how someone who sees these things can later take seriously the opinions, evaluations and content about video games (or about anything) of people like that.

Fucking clowns like this are why Metacritic is a worthless metric.

Garbage in, garbage out.

 

[Fabieter]

More than dead... The information about videogames is in the hands of people like that.
Reviews before playing a Game ... LOL


The truth is that I do not understand such a lack of neurons and that this does not imply a penalty but the opposite... I do not understand how someone who sees these things can later take seriously the opinions, evaluations and content about video games (or about anything) of people like that.

People always make up their mind before they hit release. Look at stuff like days gone or forspoken. Not saying those games didn't have issues but damn was the hate big even before release. Imo reviewers jump on hate almost the same way the do on hype.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I haven't played the game but I have feelings

Fucking clowns like this are why Metacritic is a worthless metric.

Garbage in, garbage out.

I cant believe this is real lol!

 

[Interfectum]

More than dead... The information about videogames is in the hands of people like that.
Reviews before playing a Game ... LOL


The truth is that I do not understand such a lack of neurons and that this does not imply a penalty but the opposite... I do not understand how someone who sees these things can later take seriously the opinions, evaluations and content about video games (or about anything) of people like that.

Wow this is truly next level "what the fuck"

 

[KingT731]

People always make up their mind before they hit release. Look at stuff like days gone or forspoken. Not saying those games didn't have issues but damn was the hate big even before release. Imo reviewers jump on hate almost the same way the do on hype.

But that particular instance was just observations based on what Bethesda has decided to show folks....You can't fault people for that.

 

[ReBurn]

I dont care for eurogamer but are we cool now with publisher and platformholder blacklisting outlets? Iam just asking for future references.

I'm completely fine with publishers blacklisting activist media and ideologue journalists.

 

[balls of snow]

Jesus...imagine putting so much emphasis on ethnicity in a fictional world in a damn game review. The game creator can make the whole cast blue lizardmen for all I care its his game and its not like they purposely put in offensive or bigoted content. Normally eurogamer was a great review site from my past recollection, Im hoping this is a rare instance from a single reviewer?

Lol they damned the witcher 3 for the exact same reason. Not enough 'variety' of skin colour. Still remember to this day.

 

[Interfectum]

 

[King Dazzar]

If you have confidence in your product surely you give it to everybody you possibly can for review?

 

[Fabieter]

I'm completely fine with publishers blacklisting activist media and ideologue journalists.

So you tell me that all those reviewers deserve to be blacklisted? We don't just talk about eurogamer.

 

[Interfectum]

So you tell me that all those reviewers deserve to be blacklisted? We don't just talk about eurogamer.

Most of them don't deserve to get paid for the bullshit they put out. We don't need ChatGPT reviews from pinked haired idiots... just wait for Steam reviews, GAF impressions, etc.

 

[Fabieter]

Most of them don't deserve to get paid for the bullshit they put out. We don't need ChatGPT reviews from pinked haired idiots... just wait for Steam reviews, GAF impressions, etc.

So just don't give any reviews before release. We also don't need shills doing reviews.

 

[ReBurn]

So you tell me that all those reviewers deserve to be blacklisted? We don't just talk about eurogamer.

I'm not sure there's any evidence that all of those outlets have been blacklisted. They just didn't get review code for one game.

 

[NickFire]

I can't fault MS on this after the way the outlet treated Hogwarts. If they don't take themselves seriously enough to provide meaningful coverage for a GOTY candidate with massive sales, then why should a publisher who invested this much into their game take them seriously?

 

[Games of Today]

Still waiting for Hogwarts Legacy review...

Shit, at least Starfield will be better than that shit. Hogwarts looks alright though pretty washed out in certain places and there are basrely any game mechanics besides killing copy and pasted enemies and selling loot at the shop in Hogsmeade.

 

[Banjo64]

I can't fault MS on this after the way the outlet treated Hogwarts. If they don't take themselves seriously enough to provide meaningful coverage for a GOTY candidate with massive sales, then why should a publisher who invested this much into their game take them seriously?

Let’s be honest, this isn’t a case of having high standards or credibility - otherwise dolt eastwood and the xboi crew wouldn’t be getting codes.

 

[Del_X]

Yeah I don't care if it's Sony or Microsoft or some indie publisher. I'd snub them too if they already gave me the impression they hated the foundations the game is built on before release.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah I don't care if it's Sony or Microsoft or some indie publisher. I'd snub them too if they already gave me the impression they hated the foundations the game is built on before release.

"Influencers" are the culture these corporations are influencing and curating themselves, tho.

Reap what you sow.

 

[Del_X]

"Influencers" are the culture these corporations are influencing and curating themselves, tho.

Reap what you sow.

Yeah and they can be "influenced" by getting nothing. It's the publisher's call, so tough shit.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah and they can be "influenced" by getting nothing. It's the publisher's call, so tough shit.

I'm not losing sleep over it. Eurogamer, Edge, etc, are trashcunt.

 

[MMaRsu]

Two people who call themselves journalists.

No wonder this shithole of a website didnt get a code.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

I can't wait to see the reception the public will give the game, I don't watch reviews to decide which game to buy, it's more to see how good or broken the game is at launch, and to watch a bit of the gameplay to see if it seems like something I would like to play. Microsoft needs this game to be huge. And I need to see if my rig can rock it at 60fps... Or at least 36~40~48fps to take advantage of the Gsync.

 

[Harlock]

The cry is strong in the "journalism".

 

[themonk]

People always make up their mind before they hit release. Look at stuff like days gone or forspoken. Not saying those games didn't have issues but damn was the hate big even before release. Imo reviewers jump on hate almost the same way the do on hype.

I know it’s crazy how you can have an opinion of something just from looking at it… No one ever judges things from seeing it… I’ve never been able to tell if I think a game is going to be bad just from looking at it…. It just isn’t possible. The nerve of someone having an opinion of something in the way that I want them to have that opinion.

 

[Dolomite]

unless you are xbox (redfall - incredible fun) era of course

yeah after their article, and making sure review wont fall on day1

Not sure what Red fall has to do with the price of rice in Taiwan...but no outlet is "entitled" a early access to any product.

Making a bitter article reminding readers that they've been neglected is as funny as it is embarrassing

 

[Fabieter]

I know it’s crazy how you can have an opinion of something just from looking at it… No one ever judges things from seeing it… I’ve never been able to tell if I think a game is going to be bad just from looking at it…. It just isn’t possible. The nerve of someone having an opinion of something in the way that I want them to have that opinion.

It's one thing to have an opinion on something, it's something else to give some games pure hate before even playing it or before you have the whole picture. I know it's a strange multi layered concept but some games are hard to show off and you need access to the full game for all the system to make sense together. If you can judge a game from a bad trailer that's on you, iam more of an open minded guy. Cheers.

 

[Disco Dave]

 

[Interfectum]

https://twitter.com/ParallaxStella

Protected account now. lol

Says stupid shit, now is the victim. Round and round we go.

 

[jm89]

https://twitter.com/ParallaxStella

Protected account now. lol

Says stupid shit, now is the victim. Round and round we go.

She works for IGN. Not farfetched she would have heard the impressions from whoever was reviewing it.

Obviously she could be competley talking out of her ass, but her impressions seems like she actually knew more.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I think being selective with the review codes could bite MS in the ass later. Sure, the few initial reviewers who were handpicked by MS to review their game will be positive obviously, but the other review sites that were left out may score the game lower than it deserves out of spite as a protest for equal treatment.

MS should tread carefully.

‘Give us our free code or we’ll give you a protest bad score’ … the hallmark of journalistic integrity in gaming.

 

[Interfectum]

She works for IGN. Not farfetched she would have heard the impressions from whoever was reviewing it.

Obviously she could be competley talking out of her ass, but her impressions seems like she actually knew more.

Sorry there was never going to be a good response to "I haven't played this unreleased, much hyped, platform exclusive game but here is my negative opinion on it." Be it Starfield, Zelda, Spiderman 2 or whatever. It was for attention, she got it, just too much of it.

 

[mckmas8808]

Yeah and they can be "influenced" by getting nothing. It's the publisher's call, so tough shit.

There will be some small gamer push back to this though.

 

[ManaByte]

THIS^^. Many people in this thread doesn't understand how bad this can be. If publishers only sent review copies to publications that gave them favorable reviews, it would force publications to give more favorable reviews than they normally would, or end up on the blacklist. We'd end up with reviews that didn't reflect the real quality of games. Is this what you people want?

This is how the industry has worked for decades. Rockstar will literally call a publication and try to string arm a 9.7 to a 10 under threat of being blacklisted.

 

[prinz_valium]

29 hours and 30 minutes

 

[adamsapple]

https://twitter.com/ParallaxStella

Protected account now. lol

Says stupid shit, now is the victim. Round and round we go.

 

[Interfectum]

So you tell me that all those reviewers deserve to be blacklisted? We don't just talk about eurogamer.

Metro's take on HiFi Rush:

 

[Topher]

Metro's take on HiFi Rush:

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Interfectum]

That doesn't make any sense.

Run a random ChatGPT request with the right prompts, I just wrote a Metro review:

"Hi-Fi RUSH, the latest offering from Tango Gameworks, attempts to bring rhythm-based combat to the forefront of gaming. However, its exclusivity to the Xbox platform, which has been starved for standout exclusives in recent times, feels less like a strategic move and more like a desperate bid for relevance. While the game boasts an intriguing premise of a world syncing to music, it's overshadowed by the platform's broader struggle to secure compelling exclusive titles, making it hard to see past the larger narrative of Xbox's exclusivity drought."

 

[Fabieter]

Metro's take on HiFi Rush:

That's weird but alot of these outlets do weird things like a lot. I doubt that most reviewers even finish the games they judge

 

[Mozzarella]

Not a fan of Eurogamer tbh, i dont like their articles, and their tastes while some are pretty good, it also has a lot of pretentious shit.

 

[mitchman]

This is how the industry has worked for decades. Rockstar will literally call a publication and try to string arm a 9.7 to a 10 under threat of being blacklisted.

Source?

 

[TransTrender]

Source?

I think James Stephanie Sterling did a few videos on these scenarios.

 

[MMaRsu]

Who are twitter users also. Like you Said.

If your going to justify it by saying content creator, well that applies to those clickbaity websites aswell.

And yes those content creators you mentioned are clickbaiters aswell.

Content creators on Twitter and Youtube are inherently clickbaity.

Journalism is supposed to be above that. And they clearly arent.