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F*ck Konami: MGSV FOBs beyond the first must be bought via macrotransactions
- Thread starter Quick Mustard
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"The industry has changed" MGS4 monologue. Someone do it, please.
Purchased copy of mgsv ≠ purchasing micro transactions.
Watch them ask for money for MGO expansions, too...
Yeah, thought as much. It's a scummy practice, but ultimately, hardly a deal breaker.
You get one FOB, so you can. More will cost MB coins which can be bought (real money), but I don't know if we know if MB coins are earnable through the game too.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
To be honest, with the server's down FOB's were/are kind of annoying busywork.
Additional FOB's give you the ability to send more teams out to do jobs, which yield money and rewards. However neither setting teams on tasks nor collecting rewards is automatic! You need to actually go into the menu's and actively click on them.
Its easy to forget that the whole mother base metagame isn't something everyone is going to want to min/max. Just clicking R3 for auto-assigning recruits is most likely far from optimal, but I suspect most people are just going to do it that way because its a whole lot quicker and easier than micro-managing everyone.
MiamiWesker
Member
It is, but you get one for free, so no need to use microtransactions. Just don't build one and you can't be invaded.
Upgrades range from 0 minutes to 2 hours I believe, with 2 hours being for the final upgrades for Mother Base. There might be more timely ones for weapons, someone else would have to answer.
Can't find a copy of the guide locally otherwise I'd pick that up.
Coffee Dog
Banned
You can, because they give you one for free. You just can't get more bases unless you buy.
Its seem this FOB thing is only matter if you want hardcore multiplayer experience, which actually turn the game into something else..
I don't even mad if not getting even one tbh, I just want the base game experience
delving into 100+ hour dark souls like PVP set isn't my expectation for the game, which you can bet the game changed into that if you owning these FOB thing furthermore than just one.
I don't even mad if not getting even one tbh, I just want the base game experience
delving into 100+ hour dark souls like PVP set isn't my expectation for the game, which you can bet the game changed into that if you owning these FOB thing furthermore than just one.
GetDigitized
Member
Seriously? I can say it's not as bad as you all are making it because I've played the frickin game. You think you're talking objectively because you haven't? How can we support a problem that we weren't aware of when we paid for the game. The game is much more than building bases, so yes I can say it's great.
Nobody's saying it's not an issue, but stigmatising people over such a minor part of the game isn't right or correct. This isn't belittling the issue, it's simply stating a fact, the fob system doesn't have a huge impact on the single player game. Locking out characters, weapons, story with day one dlc does, making people pay to win does. This isn't either of those. Honestly I don't understand where you people get your ideologies from, people aren't as simplistic as you think and it's not as simple as' you're either with us or you're not '.
Anyways it's almost 2am where I live and I doubt I can make any more arguments which will me anybody change their mind over what has already been echoed in this thread.
King Tubby
Member
I'm gonna buy it and not buy any MBs or whatever. If it makes me literally worse than Hitler so be it. I don't really care about FOBs.
Do I feel I'm getting value for the $x I'm paying? Yes? Then I'm getting it. It's that simple.
Do I feel I'm getting value for the $x I'm paying? Yes? Then I'm getting it. It's that simple.
Yeah, also a lot of the stuff that is expensive is upgrades of a weapon, so I'll probably skip upgrades for tools that I don't like.
But that's me, I usually play MGS with my tranq gun, sniper and a heavy weapon for going against tanks.
Don't you think you're being a tiny bit dramatic?
Microtransactions affecting SP parts of a game aren't exactly a common practice and even in cases like this when we have them, at worst they're a slight inconvenience.
Do these upgrades happen while in game only? Or can I turn the console off and come back later to the unlocks like the trading minigame in Black Flag?
Marry me. Tranq playthroughs forever. (Boss fights against vehicles or big robots aside.)
I have no problem with the current DLC model, at least in the games for which I buy DLC. Do you have something specific in mind?
Coffee Dog
Banned
In game.
The single player/mother base upgrades happen in game only. Very similar to Peace Walker. The general consensus from people who have the game and reviews is that the timers are reasonably balanced and the game itself has a lot to do within those hours.
FOB upgrades (which can take up to 120 hours) continue outside of the game as FOBs are persistent elements.
Initially, I could get the initial versions of weapons instantly developed. Now, later in the game, in order to get the higher level, upgraded stuff, it's now like 18-30 minutes in real-world time. And you can research multiple items all at once, so every 20-30 minutes I'm getting new items, while starting on other research (if I can actually manage to pull myself away from playing the game to managing research and MB).
And for the combat deployment stuff where you send your teams out on missions, I'm still managing to get resources/rewards every 15-30 minutes, with two teams running at once.
Aenima
Member
Thers already some tweets from konami saying MB Coins are purchased only. So for free you only get one FOB, to have more to acelerate your resorces gathering, you need to pay real money.
Im lazy to look, but they have been posted in this thread.
KeyChainDude
Member
ElTorro said:
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
Just to put this last string of hope out there: Is there another in-game currency you can use to purchase FOB's?
No. There is another currency, but FOBs are MB Coins only.
Thank you for this. Was wondering how people felt who had the game without servers felt about this and I figured as much.
Single player campaign is beatable and not many people mention an issue.
I would assume end game/maxing out everything would be dampened by this though.
Yeah, that needle in the worldwide haystack is sure hurting us all. Get yourself together and quit trying to publicly shame people that are guilty of nothing more than being excited about a game, despite the shitty decisions of the publisher.
Wow.
"My mind is made up and your attempt to reason with me has fallen on deaf ears. Now watch me misrepresent your argument."
Emperor_Uriel
Member
It varies based on the game and what's being modified. I doubt we'll be able to just hack MB coins, but we might be able to use CE to get the resources those coins would be providing.
I hate how this is the stereotype when Shivering Isles, for the exact same game and development cycle, is an example of one of the greatest DLCs ever created.
As for the subject at hand this is disgusting. Such a high price what? Faster research bars? Quicker outer-ops missions? More ops? Whatever? Just because there are vague online implications? For a mode that won't be available until next year?
Man. Fuck Konami for real. Kojima never asked for this.
TheSlySoul
Member
If straight conversion, then one FOB is $15 like I posted in another thread.Prices in Germany:
Danlord
Member
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
Damn
boredandlazy
Member
Can you build a FOB but elect not to partake in the invasion side of things?
Yeah, I'm not going to speak for the people going for 100%, but I don't feel like I've been severely disadvantaged by not having an FOB so far.
I don't think so. It's part of the risk/reward of having an FOB.
MiamiWesker
Member
I don't think so, the entire point is that it's risk reward.
TheSlySoul
Member
Sadly no, you can elect to never go online and not have to deal with it (like reviewers), but going online means invasions.
Serpens007
Member
They should have sold this within collectible figures.
Or they should have said that they planned a 10 year plan of content with MB Coins and FOB.
Jokes aside, this is pretty bullshit, specially with a game this great. Will not buy any MB Coins.
Or they should have said that they planned a 10 year plan of content with MB Coins and FOB.
Jokes aside, this is pretty bullshit, specially with a game this great. Will not buy any MB Coins.
genius move
No, but it means that them putting in microtransactions is a no risk proposition to them. If you buy the game regardless and just don't pay microtransactions, well, ok, worse case scenario for them is no one pays for the MTs. They lose nothing. Why not put them in and maybe get some money? I mean I don't see why in that scenario from their POV they shouldn't put them in, there's no risk to them at all and it could net them more money.
Now if people get offended enough to not buy the game... well, they'll think about whether they want to lose sales by putting those MTs in. Maybe it's not worth the risk that too many people will get offended and they'll lose a chunk of sales.
This is why it's not enough to just not buy the MTs. At least don't fool yourself into thinking that you're helping solve the problem by buying the game but just not buying MTs.
MiamiWesker
Member
Servers are up!!!!!
ArchedThunder
Banned
Of course Konami had to find some way to fuck something up in Kojima's final Metal Gear game.
Diamond Lapdogs
PreFire
Member
Yes! Now let's see what ground zeroes gave me