LordRaptor
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I find it hard to believe FFXVs performance critically or commercially is closer to "Satisfied" than "Disappointed"
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FFXV is already being discounted in Japan
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I find it hard to believe FFXVs performance critically or commercially is closer to "Satisfied" than "Disappointed"
PshycoNinja
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I didn't know having the best week one sales of any PS4 game in Japan is a commercial failure.
If that's the case, every game in Japan has been failing. Japan should just pack up and go home.
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DrROBschiz
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Well this is just Japan
SE is much more a global presence than ever before at this point
Will it be that bad in the big picture if all their mobile and DQ properties cash in at the homeland while everything else does well overseas?
Square Enix has had failure after failure on consoles. Pretty much everything has bombed this year.
This "Everything is fine" narrative is just as silly as "Omg FF/Japan/Square Enix is doomed!".
It's still topics like this, and all this sudden vitriol for FF 15 (after a very positive review thread) that have been disgusting to say the least.
It's a terrible number when the last comparable entry did 1.5m first week.
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Ōkami;226188963 said:
FFXIII released 7 years ago. Market is much different now.
vincenth69
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People should stop quoting numbers from FFXIII when XIII-2 and Lightning Returns are officialy the latest out, and those numbers are far less impressive too.
1st Course
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Good thing the world doesn't revolve around Japan.
Well, based on shipment estimates, only around 20% that 5M shipped + digital number came from Japan.
Japan hasn't had more than a ~40% share of the worldwide total since FFIX though. I think they ended up accounting for about 30% of FFXIII. Less with the PC version.
DrROBschiz
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Want?
No one wanted this. We are in reaction mode dude its not some weird witch hunt
People are playing the game and taking it in
ethomaz
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Retail can return unsold stock to retail... that already happened even with hardware.
Yeah, I also don't buy that people aren't categorizing comments on one corner or the other honestly. So it's a pretty unfortunate situation to discuss these sales and what they mean for the market.
ethomaz
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So why from the bigs only FFXV had 56% drop???
Market excuse was already debunked in the other thread.
DarkLordMalik
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It released on a failed platform in Japan. Should have made it for PS3 as well, just like Persona 5.
Is that a good answer for you?
ArkhamFantasy
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You havent been paying attention.
Yes Xbox version sell at 30 even prior launch
Man-is-Obsolete
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Not to surprising considering the prices were at a premium level the first week. The were cut to abnormal price range.
It'd be like Call of Duty coming out the first week for $100 and the following week the price was cut to $60.
It'd be like Call of Duty coming out the first week for $100 and the following week the price was cut to $60.
Roxkis_ii
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Fixed that for you.
All joking aside, can relate to this sentiment. I feel some kind of way when people make the negative street fighter V threads.
But with that said (or typed) I wish final fantasy would go back to how they used to be, with turned based battles, pre rendered backgrounds, and good stories, but I know that will never happen again most likely, so I can only enjoy crapping on their current releases that don't appeal to me while I pine for the past.
I wish square the worse of luck.
just wait for RE7 release.
Glass Rebel
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It's a game.
DarkLordMalik
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Looks guys, let me save you the trouble and tell you that any game that will be released on PS4 only will suffer a big drop going forward in Japan. Yakuza 6 is the next one to see similar drop in sales and Dragon Quest XI along with Kingdom Hearts 3 might follow in its steps.
This will be a brutal drop. Ouch!
The PS4 is ahead of where the PS3 was at this point, this excuse does not hold up and it is 100% due to the game and decline of the series.
Coin Return
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Kind of hilarious. FF needs some radical reorganization from top to bottom.
StereoVsn
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Yes, FF underperformed (it's less the 50% drop since XIII didn't have digital but probably close enough). At the same time FF as a brand has lower status and this game took a long time to release.
All that said, 20% price drop is rather normal. I bought FFXV for $48 and that also gave me $10 BestBuy voucher. Total failure in US then, right?
All that said, 20% price drop is rather normal. I bought FFXV for $48 and that also gave me $10 BestBuy voucher. Total failure in US then, right?
oneofthose
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This is pretty much happens to every game in japan monster hunter, dq included.
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And yet 1/5 PS4 owners in the region bought a copy... but that's bad eh /s
Another thing to factor in (albeit small, in all likelihood) is that this was a worldwide launch, not 3 months ahead of every other territory like XIII, so its not like there is any sort of export market interest here.
DrROBschiz
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Yeah that appears to be the case
Man...
Im not sure what they can do here. The Japanese audience is in a very different place and maybe even worldwide too..
I know what kind of games I would like to see them make and they are going all over the place
This is way SF5 will never do well in the gaming market. Stop shitting on other games and maybe others will do the same to SF5.
styl3s
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This is with tax or without? Because with Best Buy/Amazon 20% off + my 9.25% tax this is the same price for every new $59.99 game. It's $52.43
Maybe it's because i am spoiled because i have Prime and Best Buy GCU but 20% off never feels like a discount to me because i get every new game for 20% off.
Roxkis_ii
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Because people make sells thread about Final Fantasy, Street fighter V will never do well?
Okay.
Oh I know but still, it's an embarrassing part of the gaming culture.
No, I'm specifically just pointing out what you said regarding not wanting to have SF5 crapped on, but then you wanting to crap on another game. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
Mushroomer25
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While I can accept that this sort of discount is standard in Japan (and thus this is a non-story), I'm having trouble following why. Is every game overstocked in that territory, thus unable to sell at full MSRP? Is the resale market already cutting into new sale copies?
Or is this literally just a retailer matching Amazon's Prime discount?
Regardless, I think this at least feeds the narrative of "FFXV is not a smash hit". It is not turning the tides, either for the franchise or Japan's console gaming market.
Or is this literally just a retailer matching Amazon's Prime discount?
Regardless, I think this at least feeds the narrative of "FFXV is not a smash hit". It is not turning the tides, either for the franchise or Japan's console gaming market.
Who knows.
20 years ago there weren't twitter, fb, etc. Negative news on social media could have an affect on sales.
But nobody cares about Yakuza.
If Yakuza 0 bombs in western I'll lose faith in humanity
By the way I remember reading FFXIII dropped to 500yen a few months after release, I wonder if FFXV will be as bad?
Roxkis_ii
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Just because I like a game doesn't mean it doesn't have faults or that people that have a problem with it aren't valid in their views.
Final Fantasy is 30 years old. It's already gone through a couple rounds of "As an adult with kids...."
Japan is going through a pretty radical change in taste/gaming habits, and the Final Fantasy brand has been diluted in the past decade.
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