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FFXV is already being discounted in Japan
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Are you kidding? Persona was a series that solid roughly 10-20% what FF did from 1996 until now suddenly. P5 and FFXV even being comparable in sales signals a seismic shift for both series.
I know. I'm using it as a post-mortem tribute to the franchise. Soon I'm gonna wear a Noctis avatar because it's the next thing more dead than the one I'm wearing right now.
Dude...
DarkLordMalik
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Use an old Noctis avatar in that case
thekonamicode
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Oh yes, I forgot the Xbox One version exists!
You know, wishing really hard for something doesn't make it true, right?
BlueTsunami
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I'm enjoying 15. Its too bad its getting the sales blowback XIII should have received.
Hopefully this and the whole develolment fiasco will get this company on the right track again.
Hopefully this and the whole develolment fiasco will get this company on the right track again.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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This is of like no surprise to me right now.
That just means XIII was overshipped too. The big difference being XIII's shipment was nearly twice as big.
orthodoxy1095
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Sales expectations and bars for success. How do they work 👐👐👐
Most people aren't saying it's dead anyways. Their worried about FF's trajectory right now.
And_Gignac
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The final fantasy fifteensplaining is strong within this thread.
Next week we will see why retailers are so eager to discount a flagship tittle like FFXV.
People who actually know how the Japanese market functions already understand this (hint: over shipping plus poor sales)
Next week we will see why retailers are so eager to discount a flagship tittle like FFXV.
People who actually know how the Japanese market functions already understand this (hint: over shipping plus poor sales)
With who? The only people I've seen fifteensplaining in this thread are the the ones trying to say Final Fantasy as a brand is finished. Most everyone in this thread is saying we want to see the WW numbers, and we want to see how week 2 goes.
So anecdotal evidence? Given how often people referred to it doing well in the west, I thought we have some actual numbers.
We literally do not have anything other than Japanese sales numbers, would you like us to conjure figures out of the ether for you?
Week 2 will be like an 80-90% drop. The game will be lucky to sell its initial shipment a few months from now after prices are slashed to hell.
friskykillface
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Mobile FFXVI is coming at you
Mobile FFXVI is coming at you
Well we do know it's seen a small decline from XIII in the first week here in the UK. There's a good chance it will be down across the board, it will just be worst in Japan.
And_Gignac
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There are UK numbers and the game did worse than FFXIII.
And it's also second in sales behind Fifa,and the second biggest UK launch in franchise history, all information gleaned from a cursory google.
ethomaz
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Sarcasm?
PS4 sales are are ahead PS3 in Japan... the user base difference between FFXIII and FFXV release is less than 500k and that is why FFXIII release bit later than FFXV into the generation.
Can you show any other example of franchises ~50% going from PS3 to PS4??? If you start to compare the numbers you will see drops at max 20% happened but some games get even boost compared with last gen.
FFXV still dropped over 50%.
And_Gignac
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FFXIII being the biggest launch didn't help much when it came to sell better than 7,8,9 and 10. By the actual reception to the game, I don't see much indication FFXV's case will be any better.
Yep. It's pretty normal for recent games in Japan. Everything is near mint condition no matter where you go for used copies which is amazing (to me).
DeviantBoi
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The demo didn't help.
I was somewhat looking forward to the game... despite not caring for FF13... but the demo completely dissuaded me from buying it.
I was somewhat looking forward to the game... despite not caring for FF13... but the demo completely dissuaded me from buying it.
Considering Square's philosophy for this release seemed to be "Get It Out The Damn Door" more than anything else, maybe it doesn't matter. They made their money from the copies shipped already. Copies sold will make a dent some time later if retailers decide to turn the remainder in for refunds, but by then two more Kingdom Hearts releases will have happened in 2017 and they'll have a ton of cash on hand from that. And it's not like weak sales of FF15 are going to make retailers order fewer copies of FF16.
In the end the result of the game's weak sales will probably just be an FF16 without an open world and with female characters in the main party, possibly as the main protagonist as in FF13.
In this thread people ignore the state of the console gaming market in Japan. Sales of the PS4 nearly tripled with the release of FFXV and we're "sky is falling. . ." That FFXV is likely a million seller in Japan before years end is impressive feat given the market there. This is 2009/PS3. Pegging performance to a reality nearly a decade past is just dishonest.
Xilium
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Pretty sure XIII sold more than IX. Was mentioned in another thread that XIII is the 4th bestselling game in the series.
It's also became the bestselling PS4 game in a week. Seems a little ridiculous to go all in on the doom-and-gloom train given that. It's not doing as good as XIII but it's still a huge accomplishment for the current market there.
I was only joking/trolling btw.
That's the only thing we can go off of until we actually have numbers though.
LordRaptor
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EVO signups though!
Garrett Hawke
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they need to bring back lightning for XVI
real talk though i hope they don't decide to go down the DOA route in terms of pandering waifu fan service like street fighter just because it might be flopping.
real talk though i hope they don't decide to go down the DOA route in terms of pandering waifu fan service like street fighter just because it might be flopping.
DarkLordMalik
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You ready for Yakuza 6, Resident Evil 7, Kingsom Hearts 3, FFVII:Remake and DQXI? These games won't come closer to their predecessor and you can bet on that.
Yakuza 6 is already predicted to have a big decline.
It was heavily discounted in Italy too before the release. Unieuro had the D1 edition pre-order for 40, Comet for 30. Consider the full price of a new game here is 70.
Gamestop has the gam right now bundled with The Last Guardian for 90 (so 45 each).
I think SE knew this and they gave a go to those kind of discounts, hoping to sell as many copies as they could because they knew the game is not so good, but with a low price maybe people would give it a try.
Gamestop has the gam right now bundled with The Last Guardian for 90 (so 45 each).
I think SE knew this and they gave a go to those kind of discounts, hoping to sell as many copies as they could because they knew the game is not so good, but with a low price maybe people would give it a try.
DQXI will come way closer. It has the benefit of also being on two Nintendo handhelds.
I could see Yakuza 6, REVII and KH3 also facing ~50% declines though. FFVIIR is a wild card but I'd expect it to be the best selling FF remake by far. If it isn't something's REALLY wrong.
They're just choking down the crow.
Only the best survive, DQXI.
DarkLordMalik
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We are talking about PS4 releases and I doubt DQXI PS4 manages even 1 million.
Okay, sure. Don't be surprised at the decline and it won't have to do anything with the quality of the game but the state of console gaming in Japan.
ethomaz
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Ok when these games releases we will talk again about that... I don't believe any of them will come close to 30% drop in sales compared to previous entries.
PancakeAlmighty
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Its all fine and good that people want to lump this into there anti ff15 narrative, but its kind of just how Japanese games are now hahaha, anyone remember how fast Project X Zone got discounted?
I mean didn't XIII push PS3 a lot in Japan too iirc, whereas XV isn't pushing PS4 as hard. Think there is something small to spin.
Gotdatmoney
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This happens in Japan all the time. It isnt even news.
Ivory Samoan
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I just wish mobile games weren't on mobile devices.....I hate having hot hands lol.
I have a new3DSXL for my toilet gaming needs, other than that, I don't really mess with mobile; hope FFXVI isn't mobile or it's the new pachinko to me (MGS RIP).
FFXV going Bomba in Japan isn't unexpected, it's a western style FF and it's my favourite since VI easily, but I can see why turn-based lovers there aren't on-board.
I say stick with this new western style FF, if it bombs in Japan but sells >10,000,000 units LTD then it doesn't really matter does it? $ is $, no matter where the buyer base lives.
Why would you just compare the PS4 version of DQXI alone to claim a decline? That's like using just the XBO version of FFXV to compare.
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