DirgeExtinction
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It's not like it matters which of the two is at the party anyway.
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Meccanical
Member
Especially since they are the same person.
That Dude John
Member
I dunno man, clearly not everything suggests that she's gone. There have been clues that suggest that she's in the game. That main scene you're talking about is concept art, where Luna isn't even wearing the dress designed by Roen that Stella was wearing.
It's not a matter of me believing or not. I don't particularly care either way. There's no reason to believe had she been in the game that it would automatically be better.
If anything, seeing her in the game would be great just because way back in the thread people were calling Tabata a liar for things he said that we have no closure on.
threelights
Member
Literally everything suggests that she's gone...
Also, I don't know why you keep repeating that last line so often, that was never the point me or any other people were ever trying to make.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I just don't believe Tabata to be ballsy enough to pull Kojima-like trolls, when he's been so eager to please the fans at any turn. It seems like he's just too timid to come out and say it.
But hey, I would actually love to be wrong, and for this to be some bigger plot tie-in, but it doesn't seem likely at this point.
Meccanical
Member
Stella is a shadow, the true self.
threelights
Member
I'm down for this.
If your point was that Tabata was lying in his interviews, then I have to shake my head at that. We simply have no closure to be making statements like that. The game isn't even out yet.
Meccanical
Member
I don't know why he's so afraid to say he changed a character's name.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
It's why people are psyching themselves out into thinking there's more to it. It's downright weird how cagey he is about the subject when everything we've seen since 2014 has had "replacement" written on the wall.
YankeeDonB
Member
One of the primary reasons I still think Luna hasn't replaced Stella. If so, why not just say it?
We've seen nothing to rule out the possibility of Royal siblings, both with their own unique relationship with Noctis and role in the story.
Of course, it could be a Garnett/Dagger thing too.
If he is indeed afraid that people are going to be outraged at the name change, then why change it to begin with?
JuanLatino
Member
this.
I can understand if you change the character design over the years....But the name? Why should he do that without a good reason.
When JpGames asked Tabata about Stella, he laughed and said he can't say anything, but after the demo we will get more infos about the story,
Stereogatari
Banned
As long as this happens I'll be happy:
As long as this happens I'll be happy:
Is this supposed to be the same city (Lucis) as in the recently shown concept art?
Yeah.
Night_Knight
Unconfirmed Member
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Stereogatari
Banned
I wonder how the city will be in the game. Fully alive with cars and NPCs? All of the footage over the years has only ever shown a desolate city.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Standing under the moon...As long as this happens I'll be happy:
Moon = Luna
Stella has been Luna all along!
TheGreatDirector
Banned
I'm just wondering how big it'll be. The concept art and Versus footage we've seen makes it look gigantic. How much will they little exploration considering the open world design of gameplay they're trying emphasize?
The occupation by Niflheim and the war is a good enough story reason for the developers to justify it being not very explorable, and it not having as many cars/NPCs that it normally should.
Stereogatari
Banned
Stella = Star, Luna = Moon. That makes me think both characters exist, whether it's different manifestations of the same person or not. If there are two of them then the love triangle metaphor would work nicely; the star and moon fighting to be in the night (Noctis) sky. If they are the same person then perhaps her moon form is her hiding her true self or w/e (expanding on the Persona analogy from above lol).
That story nugget is making me think the city will only feature briefly at the start and the crux of the game will happen elsewhere, like Midgar in FFVII and the Tanker in MGS2.
Because it's irrelevant, unless the name is somehow apart of the story.
Does it really matter if a character name is change especially if they act and do what they are planned to do?
Stereogatari
Banned
It's less about the name and more about the character's design. People prefer Stella's look to the Disney Princess vibe of Luna.
Well blame Nomura for changing her design multiple times (hell Stella last design wasn't even complete if I remember right), not Tabata.
We still don't know if Stella is gone, Tabata could just teasing fans with not saying anything about her.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
I liked her look in the recent artwork.
Although we will have to wait and see how she looks in the final game. Hopefully in this vein.
Yes that's correct.
Stereogatari
Banned
I liked her look in the recent artwork.
Although we will have to wait and see how she looks in the final game. Hopefully in this vein.
Oh is that her? I just assumed it was some random character.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Probably, white dress and the dialogue mentioned her too.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
It's not confirmed.
Btw Insomnia looks fucked up in that picture. I wouldn't be surprised if Niflheim unleashed a Archean.
MultiJhonny
Banned
Looks like a statue.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
The main city area seen in all the previous trailers is actually in the distance.
I don't at all expect the outskirts/suburbs to be playable. Just that main section.
But it looks like it's holding a blade.
Stereogatari
Banned
But what about the dream of the whole World being a massive free roaming environment?
Seven Force
Banned
I can understand people being put off by character designs/concepts being changed.
But I've always found it kinda funny that people have gotten so attached to a character we've only sporadically seen in game trailers and magazine scans spread out over the course of 8 or so years.
MultiJhonny
Banned
Blades can be part of a statue lol
I get that part, but what I don't is when people say Stella > Luna, I get confused.
Maybe they just mean from a design prospective, but if not I find it funny when we know nothing about either. Like somehow Stella is just inherently better...just because.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
It wouldn't be feasible and also be uneccessary to have a city that large given the nature of FF narratives.
That statue looks bigger than building though.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Unless this narrative emphasizes the exploration aspect of it too a large degree.
Midgar was narratively constructed where you could only access specific parts of it at a given time due to your party being wanted figures. Maybe in the beginning all of Insomnia will be open to explore given your royalty status and later in the game you have to sneak in, first through the suburbs and then into the main city.
JuanLatino
Member
Its not like i really care for the name of the girl - Still there has to be a reason for changing her name.
Well i hope the Story Trailer at the E3 will shed some light on this mistery
YankeeDonB
Member
I actually thought Stella when I saw this. But that's clearly a blue dress.
chozen
Member
I'm pretty sure it's a summon they didn't want to fully reveal but if you notice the sword that slashed the road Luna is standing on you will realize it was done by a huge creature presumably by the one in the background.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
I think it is supposed to be her.
At the demo's end, at that point it mentioned two characters Noctis and someone with a really long name. The long name one had a Stella in it. I think.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret.
She was stated as being killed in the invasion of Lucius( as was Noctis). I wouldn't be surprised if someone who happened to look a lot like her really did die. A character like that is one you probably wouldn't want to cover too heavily in your marketing.
Death Penalty
Member
It definitely seems to be a statue, you can see its base. The sword doesn't look like it's being held either, but rather like it's fallen there in a similar fashion to the sword cleaving the road. I'm guessing this is the aftermath of the struggle, and the summon is gone and/or defeated by the invaders.
Quite possibly Knights of the Round given the hints and the multiple swords.