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First GTX 1070 benchmarks
- Thread starter DieH@rd
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RickyRozay
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I was honestly thinking of getting the 2600K model for cheap and overclocking the hell out it, maybe around 4.5-5.0.l so I wouldn't have to also update my motherboard.
If it costs practically the same, why would people ever buy the 1070 over the 1080?
That makes literally no sense. Even less sense than reference cards being priced at a $100 premium over potentially cheaper AIB alternatives.
holygeesus
Banned
The prices certainly won't be that close here in the UK (which is still, just part of Europe) and the 1080 isn't as expensive as feared, though still steep. The 1070 is looking like being at least £150 cheaper.
They don't cost even nearly the same in Europe. RRP for FE versions are 499€ and 799€. In fact the price difference is much greater than in North America. 1070 is 62.5% of 1080 price in Europe, in US it's 75%.
Partner/custom cards can be bought for less than that but it goes both ways, you can't just compare custom 1080 price to FE 1070.
PHOENIXZERO
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It won't, if OC'd 2500Ks were mostly fine with the 980Ti an OC'd 2600K is going to be more than fine with a 1070 unless you're aiming for 120+FPS at 1080p or you're playing a CPU heavy game.
Yep, they definitely don't want the 1070 being as good as a value proposition as the 970.
black_vegeta
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Cool, I'm a 1080p/60fps type of guy. Thanks for the reply!
jim2point0
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Is there some reward for "calling it" or is he just trying to feel important?
Yep, but they'll put a Titan X in there as well for good measure.
ToastyBanana
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-pascal-gamers.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
The all-seeing google eye still has them.
demigod
Member
Too bad he didnt call OnLive going bankrupt.
It is specially stupid when we have just one set of, may I say, very questionable benchmarks.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Holy shit, these GPUs are monsters. Not only they have an insane performance, their performance/watt ratio is the highest too. Goddamn. Good job, nVidia.
Backfoggen
Banned
The 970 was slightly slower than a 780 Ti.
The 1070 beats the 980 Ti AND Titan X.
Not as good as a value proposition??
jim2point0
Banned
Yeeeeah. What's up with The Division?
He has a history of nonsense posts. He felt the need to even take it all the way to the B/S/T thread.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Bwaha what?! They're fast but I'd hardly call it 'insane performance!'. Non-reference 1080 Ti's might approach that though.
TheSaddestSort
Member
If I can convince myself I may jump on one of these in the fall. Certainly would be a boost over my 760, but since I game at 1080 the card has been performing pretty well.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Cool now the wait begins, I hope I can make a good AMD Zen + GTX1070 builld in august. I'll wait for that.
If the new AMD Zen turns out to be as promising it seems, I can go the extra mile and avoid getting a Polaris 10 GPU, seems they won't bring the performance I was hoing to get.
If the new AMD Zen turns out to be as promising it seems, I can go the extra mile and avoid getting a Polaris 10 GPU, seems they won't bring the performance I was hoing to get.
drotahorror
Member
Vulkan save us.
demigod
Member
What happened to the 50% improvement with dx12?
Those were always potential gains. Anybody that believed 50% better performance would magic itself into existence by the mere usage of dx12 was fooling themselves.
There are specific instances where dx12 can provide gains, but It won't be without a lot of work and I doubt it would be 50% better.
michaelius
Banned
That was cpu limited scenarios with weak cpu and top gpu.
Also DX12 means developers need to do a lot themselves - who do you think can write more efficient shaders - Nvidia engineers that know cards from top to bottom and can go to writing in assembly when needed or devs who have 5 skus to support.
Lister
Banned
They went the way of coding to the metal that console fanboys were enamored with. File under misunderstood myths.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Ok, for those in the know it might not be that much, but for me it's pretty impressive.
CreepingFear
Member
No. Most people knew the VRAM was a huge hindrance. 980 Ti for 1080p could probably last me a while, but I'll still get the 1080 Ti when it comes out.
Then why are Radeons so far ahead?
shark sandwich
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IMO it's worth the extra cash if you game at 4K. Otherwise 1070 is plenty and it's a much better value.
Because AMD's DX11 driver sucks.
Prophet Steve
Member
Value proposition as in not having the same thing happen with the 970 and 980 where the 970 was a waaaaaaay better value proposition. Now the 1070 is a bit more expensive and there is more of a performance gap.
Shadowheart
Member
Well, looks like the 1070 will be the target for my next GPU. Now I need to save up enough. Upgrading other parts be damned.
That's only ever been related to draw calls. All the demos you keep seeing with 50%+ gains are specifically exploiting that to show off "potential gains", when the reality is that you are not likely to see anywhere near that unless a game is specifically pushing for draw calls where DX11 simply can't compete by comparison. Expect much less in actual games.
The biggest gains are more likely to be from the lower end PCs that are bottlenecked by CPU performance
OmegaDL50
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I currently have a i5 3570k and 8GB of ram in my system.
I originally was going to overhaul my PC completely with a Skylake i7 6700k, and 16GB of DDR4, with a Pascal GPU, but money is a bit tight and the mobo / cpu / ram upgrade will need to come much later on.
Do you think it's feasible that my i5 3570k will hold out another two more years, and I upgrade to 16GB, with a SSD, and get the GTX 1070 all for about $550, since I won't have the $1200 I needed to overhaul my PC.
A ram upgrade and a GPU upgrade should hold me out for 1080p at 60fps for the foreseeable future...I think.
Any opinions?
EDIT - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NNLbtJ
This my current build with the new parts I want to add. Assume the GTX 1070 won't be $380 and add $20 to $30 give or take since I plan to pick up a Aftermarket variant. I think this should be feasible to do this by June or July.
I originally was going to overhaul my PC completely with a Skylake i7 6700k, and 16GB of DDR4, with a Pascal GPU, but money is a bit tight and the mobo / cpu / ram upgrade will need to come much later on.
Do you think it's feasible that my i5 3570k will hold out another two more years, and I upgrade to 16GB, with a SSD, and get the GTX 1070 all for about $550, since I won't have the $1200 I needed to overhaul my PC.
A ram upgrade and a GPU upgrade should hold me out for 1080p at 60fps for the foreseeable future...I think.
Any opinions?
EDIT - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NNLbtJ
This my current build with the new parts I want to add. Assume the GTX 1070 won't be $380 and add $20 to $30 give or take since I plan to pick up a Aftermarket variant. I think this should be feasible to do this by June or July.
I'm banking on that. Right now with 4K DSR my overclocked 980 Ti does pretty acceptable 4K @ 30 fps but next year I hope to see 4K @ 120 Hz G-Sync + 1080 Ti being actually capable of handling 4K @ 60 fps. Despite not getting 120 fps the higher refresh rate still feels smoother and less blurry to me. I use a 1440p 144 Hz display at the moment.
I have both a 3570K @ 4.5 GHz and a 6600K @ 4.7 GHz rigs here right now. The 3570K went to my girlfriend but I used it with a 980 Ti. I haven't noticed significant improvements with the 6600K in anything except GTA V (and probably other CPU bound games). The difference was that in GTA V with the 3570K running the game at 4K often dropped below 30 fps whereas it runs over 30 fps with the 6600K.
I think you will be fine just upgrading to the 1070 and SSD. Even 8 GB RAM should be fine for now. If you haven't overclocked the shit out of your 3570K then you definitely should. Most should go to about 4.3 - 4.4 GHz without all that big bumps in voltage and temps.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Is your CPU over clocked? If yes then you're going to still be good for 60FPS at 1080p for a while.
OmegaDL50
Member
I bumped the base clock of my i5 3570k from 3.4 to 4Ghz, it's been stable at these clocks for as long as I can remember.
This will probably be a direct swap for my 960 in my system. The 1070 and 960 have similar power draws, no?
Then again, I'll probably keep both in my system since I do renders...
Hands of Stone
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Once I upgrade my monitor, the 1070 will be my other (big) PC purchase of '16.
560ti----->970-->1070. Still can't believe I used my old card for so long lol.
560ti----->970-->1070. Still can't believe I used my old card for so long lol.
FF Seraphim
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For only $200 more I think I will get the 1080... Of course that means I will not be buying another card for like 3-5 more years...
Well in % terms you are paying around 57% more for +20% performance. I think it's better to go 1070 and upgrade sooner than 5 years.