They will pick up the new model unless there is a huge difference in price.
I wouldn't be surprised if the old model gets discontinued shorty after release of the new model.
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Giant Bomb: PS4.5 / PS4K is codenamed NEO, more info
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They will pick up the new model unless there is a huge difference in price.
I wouldn't be surprised if the old model gets discontinued shorty after release of the new model.
Netherscourge
Banned
So, what product will Trinity be?
MrCunningham
Member
I figured as much for 4K screens. This machine isn't going to push native 4K for the majority of its retail library with specs like that. And as for VR, that seems a little head scratching to me. It seems like this would be the machine you would want to own for a better VR experience.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Sony are mandating fps above 30fps. I'd say it's a definite 1080p/60fps situation.
Go on.....
Well fam. What else do you know?
Fredrik
Member
Like any other multiplat released on a superior and inferior platform. Great version - not so great version. And the OG PS4 owners just got punked, the definitive console VR experience will be elsewhere or yet another $399 investment needs to be made.
johnnydrama
Banned
I am very excited for the inevitable Uncharted 4 Neo port.
Lol at those of you thinking the normal PS4 will become the new PS3.
It was easier than I thought
gigantor21
Member
No way in hell. I doubt the PS5 will be able to do that either.
PCs with graphics cards more expensive than the PS4 still struggle on that front, and they don't have to worry about the low power draw and small size of a console.
grtkbrandon
Neo Member
Games will definitely not run at 4K and especially not at 60 fps. The GPU specs leave a lot to the imagination, so it's hard to really judge, but it doesn't seem to be a huge increase in performance. These people saying the base PS4 is dead are getting ahead of themselves. As a PC gamer, this thread has been fun to watch so far.
I missed the part about no Neo exclusives. I remain skeptical though. What's the motivation to develop beyond the base specs? New 3DS already shows there's not much incentive to add extra content that only part of the audience will be able to experience.
They'd be cannibalizing their own sales. I fully expect the old PS4 to disappear rather than be discounted.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
PS4 was Mark Cerny's baby.
PS4 NEO, we all know whos idea this was.
PS4 NEO, we all know whos idea this was.
Hard to say without knowing the full details, but I don't expect this to run a whole lot of native 4K games. We'll definitely see a good number at 1440p and other intermediate resolutions, maybe a few that could be patched from 1080p30 to 60 if they were GPU rather than limited before. Total amount of memory could still be an issue, since going from 1080p to 4K can be easily mean a 50% increase in VRAM usage on PC.
I guess this is the middle scenario laid out by Digital Foundry: A moderate incremental upgrade that improves high res and VR support but mostly stays in the same footprint. I'd call it a PS4.3 or 4.4.
I guess this is the middle scenario laid out by Digital Foundry: A moderate incremental upgrade that improves high res and VR support but mostly stays in the same footprint. I'd call it a PS4.3 or 4.4.
Yep. That is why I've always been a console gamer, it's simple. I know I could get a better experience on PC, but the ease-of-use of consoles just outweighs that. This was the first console generation in which I had the financial ability to go all-in and feel at peace knowing I'm solid for about 8 years. Before this I only owned a single console each gen and often a good 4-5 years after it came out. But now here I am with everything for the first time and what happens? The Wii-U got crap support, with the next Nintendo console coming only 4-5 years later. The Xbox One has only a handful of solid exclusives and Microsoft is throwing things to the wall to see what sticks in regards to their video game future, and the PS4 is now getting a better version 3 years after it came out for the same price as I bought the "regular" for.
It's my fault, guys. Things kinda went to shit after acquiring all the current-gen consoles, I take full responsibility.
AuthenticM
Member
Fucking yes. I am all for this.
GIVE IT TO ME
GIVE IT TO ME
RickyRozay
Member
I'm not extremely tech savy but I'm sure this is a no.
King Gilga
Member
Yup, I'm done with console gaming.
Yeah seriously. These platforms with regular upgrades to CPU and GPU are for the birds.
Isn't that for VR only?
KawabataSan
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MissDeviling
Member
FFXV peeps:
Awesome shit.
Awesome shit.
You people downplaying the upgrades being serious here?
The jump in GPU is about 100%~ and CPU looks like it was clocked straight up by about 30%~.
For reference Intel has been squeezing us with 5% improvements for like the last 5 years and I don't think the GTX 980 Ti is even 100% faster than the GTX 780 Ti.
The jump in GPU is about 100%~ and CPU looks like it was clocked straight up by about 30%~.
For reference Intel has been squeezing us with 5% improvements for like the last 5 years and I don't think the GTX 980 Ti is even 100% faster than the GTX 780 Ti.
SerTapTap
Member
1440p is around double the pixel count of 1080p. I really doubt this thing would push that on a game that's running 1080p now with better framerate to boot.
Surely the CPU being a moderate improvement helps them to reel in developer's ambitions for the console. GPU improvements directly increase framerate and resolution possibilities, huge CPU increases fundamentally alters the possible types of games we could see on the device which would be impossible to achieve well on the base PS4. I think it's a clever push toward better performance but without altering the "deal" too much and keep the games able to run well on both but with effectively higher settings a la PC games.
After chewing on this a bit more, this is kind of where I stand right now. I understand that they player base has to stay unified and Sony's decision to require the "Base" version of each is probably the right one for this situation, but I'm still confused at why this thing exists. I suppose "because people will buy it" is an acceptable answer, but the extent of that remains to be seen.
My main question is that if developers and publishers were asking for more power, doesn't the "Base" version inherently limit what they can do with the upgraded specs of the NEO? No matter how good the specs of the NEO are, that "Base" version will always be lingering. Anybody have further insight on this?
Zombie James
Banned
I was wondering why the other thread was moving so slowly, ha.
Anyways, sounds like a solid upgrade to me. Timing and price is going to be key.
Anyways, sounds like a solid upgrade to me. Timing and price is going to be key.
grtkbrandon
Neo Member
I don't think you know how any of this works.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Definitive ? No, the "definitive" VR experience will come with the PSVR2, in 2019. So the Neo_PS4 owners will got punched.
or maybe with PSVR2.5 and PS5. I don't know.
mugurumakensei
Member
Bloodbourne is probably a yes. Witcher 3 is almost certainly a no unless they further reduce the NPC count.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
What I don't understand about this rumor is, why would they double the number of CUs (and bump the clock speed) on the GCU more than doubling it's performance, but leave the RAM almost the same and barely improve the CPU? Feels mismatched, something like 28CUs might have been a better fit and cheaper.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Oh, me too. My uncle works at Sony.
If the article is correct in that the requirement is for the NEO version to have the same or higher frame-rate as the base model, then I can almost guarantee you that developers will shoot for 4K resolution rather than shooting for 60fps, if the base version runs at 30fps.
Yes, probably. But some games like Infamous Second Son, for example, could run at 60fps on PS4K.
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