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How a Lying Youtuber(Sargon) Ruined MTV's attempt to explain BLM

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Slayven

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]BLM probably could have avoided a lot of "explaining" had they chosen a name that wasn't going to be blatantly divisive and anger a bunch of dickheads who now are using the name as a method of creating further division, misinformation, and hate.[/B]

If the goal of BLM is specifically to stop police violence, then the name should reflect that.

Granted, these same dickheads are going to make a stink regardless, but why give them a freebie?

I'm not sure how BLM even got it's name to begin with. Who decided that? Did it just come out of some stupid social media slogan from Twitter?

I don't have a problem with the BLM protestors, I agree with them and think our police forces need to review their hiring and training practices and be demilitarized. For the most part BLM protests have been pretty peaceful and well done.

But I guess it's too late to apply hindsight.
Any title would have been shitted on, might as well go all in.

It isn't divisive because of the name, it is divisive because it involves black people standing up.


Why should folks bend over to try not to offend those that will never understand, not because they can't, but because they don't want to.
 

Harmen

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BLM probably could have avoided a lot of "explaining" had they chosen a name that wasn't going to be blatantly divisive and anger a bunch of dickheads who now are using the name as a method of creating further division, misinformation, and hate.

How are you supossed to call a movement that adresses the violence against black people? Nothing about the name BLM indicates it meaning "only black lives matter" or "white lives matter less". If all people see is a division when the name of a movement has "black" in it, I think those people weren't going to be supportive in the first place.
 
BLM probably could have avoided a lot of "explaining" had they chosen a name that wasn't going to be blatantly divisive and anger a bunch of dickheads who now are using the name as a method of creating further division, misinformation, and hate.

If the goal of BLM is specifically to stop police violence, then the name should reflect that.

Granted, these same dickheads are going to make a stink regardless, but why give them a freebie?

I'm not sure how BLM even got it's name to begin with. Who decided that? Did it just come out of some stupid social media slogan from Twitter?

I don't have a problem with the BLM protestors, I agree with them and think our police forces need to review their hiring and training practices and be demilitarized. For the most part BLM protests have been pretty peaceful and well done.

But I guess it's too late to apply hindsight.

The name isn't the problem. People hate because they wanna hate. They don't think the complaints of BLM or minorities communities distaste of police conduct is valid. The name is just something they latch on too but they will criticize it for anything and everyhing they can.
 

Gattsu25

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This: https://www.insidehighered.com/news...ers-attack-digital-games-research-association

If you're into academic articles, read this and this

But you wouldn't need much more confirmation that this dude is a bigot, since this thread is about how he's campaigning against BLM and something as great as Franchesca Ramsey's Decoded show.
Yeah, Sargon has always been one of the intellectual leaders of GamerGate. It's... odd... seeing someone classify him as not-GG in this thread.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
BLM could have been called, Lets All Get Along and Be Happy and people would still be calling them a terrorist group inciting hate because its black people speaking up for themselves.
 

Audioboxer

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Not too sure how it is ruined. Youtube likes and dislikes are pointless.

The arguments/points made stand on their own, and listening to them is how you judge content.

If MTV/Franchesca cared they could just disable votes/comments. Youtube comments are always a mistake, on everything. Vile nonsense.
 

AntChum

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BLM probably could have avoided a lot of "explaining" had they chosen a name that wasn't going to be blatantly divisive and anger a bunch of dickheads who now are using the name as a method of creating further division, misinformation, and hate.

If the goal of BLM is specifically to stop police violence, then the name should reflect that.
It was patently obvious what Black Lives Matter means from day one. To still question the implied 'too' at this stage in the game (I'm not saying you are doing that) only goes to show one's own willful ignorance and prejudice.

To paraphrase a pair of modern philosophers, 'Fucking being literate, how does that work?'
 

sphagnum

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when it comes to race alt right and alt left sounds scarily the same.


Alt Right:" Shut up"

Alt Left:" Shut up, we will call you when we need warm bodies"

I'm assuming you're referring to BernieBros and "brocialists", in which case at least we're working on that. If there's an "alt left" it's far more diverse than the alt right is and we have constant fights between those who believe in intersectionality and those who still cling to class before anything else, while the alt right by definition is entirely regressive and reactionary.
 

Trojan X

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Yeah, Sargon has always been one of the intellectual leaders of GamerGate. It's... odd... seeing someone classify him as not-GG in this thread.

Nothing odd about it. It's called lack of info. If I followed him thoroughly and I came up with the conclusion that he isn't pro-GG then that would be a problem.


This: https://www.insidehighered.com/news...ers-attack-digital-games-research-association

If you're into academic articles, read this and this

But you wouldn't need much more confirmation that this dude is a bigot, since this thread is about how he's campaigning against BLM and something as great as Franchesca Ramsey's Decoded show.

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a read.
 
I'm assuming you're referring to BernieBros and "brocialists", in which case at least we're working on that. If there's an "alt left" it's far more diverse than the alt right is and we have constant fights between those who believe in intersectionality and those who still cling to class before anything else, while the alt right by definition is entirely regressive and reactionary.

I'm pretty sure we're talking about white liberals who don't happen to be very liberal when it comes to race, and not about singling you out. Young whites not being very different to old whites on races, compared to young blacks.

Yet many millennials subscribe to this view, with an MTV/ David Binder poll finding only 39 percent of white millennials believe “white people have more opportunities today than racial minority groups.” By contrast, 65 percent of people of color feel that whites have differential access to jobs and other opportunities. Further, 70 percent of all millennials say “it’s never fair to give preferential treatment to one race over another, regardless of historical inequalities.”

In a 2009 study using American National Election Studies—a survey of Americans before and after each presidential election—Vincent Hutchings finds, “younger cohorts of Whites are no more racially liberal in 2008 than they were in 1988.” My own analysis of the most recent data reveals a similar pattern: Gaps between young whites and old whites on support for programs that aim to further racial equality are very small compared to the gaps between young whites and young blacks.

And even though the gaps within the millennial generation are wide, as with the Pew data, there is also evidence that young blacks are more racially conservative than their parents, as they are less likely to support government aid to blacks.

Spencer Piston, professor at the Campbell Institute at Syracuse University, used ANES data and found a similar pattern on issues relating to economic inequality. He examined a tax on millionaires, affirmative action, a limit to campaign contributions and a battery of questions that measure egalitarianism. He says, “the racial divide (in particular the black/white divide) dwarfs other divides in policy opinion. Age differences in public opinion are small in comparison to racial differences.” This finding is, he adds, “consistent with a long-standing finding in political science.” Piston finds that young whites have the same level of racial stereotypes as their parents.​

That discrimination affects whites as much as other minorities...

A 2012 Public Religion Research Institute poll found that 58 percent of white millennials say discrimination affects whites as much as it affects people of color. Only 39 percent of Hispanic millennials and 24 percent of African-American millennials agree.

The kind of liberals who argue protests should be quiet and not clashing with an opposite group. The kind who concern troll that BLM activists shouldn't interrupt events, that they should be calm and respectable even when black people are still discriminated/murdered/incarcerated at disproportionate levels.
 
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