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I found a vagina in Watch Dogs 2 and Sony suspended me (Update: Ban lifted)

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Vexidus

Member
I don't get the fuss here. Anyone who uses a PS4, computer, phone or even a family system like the Wii can just open up the browser and search for vaginas and see anything imaginable. The access kids have to porn these days is incredible. Why would anyone get excited over a low-res ham wallet texture in a video game?
 

Tovarisc

Member
the suspension is pretty shitty considering this is part of the game's content with nudity found in many places

I would like to read the ESRB ratings

Rated M.

Content Descriptors: Blood, Intense Violence, Nudity, Sexual Themes, Strong Language, Use of Drugs

Other: Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB (Windows PC, PlayStation 4, Xbox One)

Rating Summary: This is an action-adventure game in which players assume the role of a man (Marcus Holloway) who joins forces with a hacker group intent on exposing corruption in the San Francisco Bay Area.

As players explore the open-world environment, they can complete mission-based objectives, interact with characters, and engage in combat with criminals and rival gangs. Players use machine guns, shotguns, assault rifles, and explosives to kill enemy thugs and/or civilians; killing civilians, however, may negatively affect their progress.

Fire fights are often accompanied by realistic gunfire, large explosions, and blood-splatter effects. Some sequences contain additional acts of violence: a man bleeding out and dying from a stab wound; a man shot and killed by an officer.

The game contains some sexual material: a man selling child pornography over the phone (no sexual acts or nudity depicted); a strip club depicting pole dancers and topless women; brief instances of male and female full-frontal nudity (e.g., a woman in body paint; a man standing with a woman outdoors).

During the course of the game, characters are depicted smoking marijuana and using needles to inject themselves with drugs; in one sequence, the player's screen warps and blurs after consuming mushrooms laced with acid. The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” are heard in the dialogue.
https://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.aspx?from=home&titleOrPublisher=watch dogs
 
Thanks for the info. In that case, the ban makes sense. Is there any way to disable that and just share directly on Twitter etc.?

Its somewhat "funny" that a game itself is perfectly fine, but sharing pictures from it is not. Its not like that the images are user generated content that were created either, its content that the developers themself made.
I still don't see where the ban makes sense. It's a game for adults, with adult content. How can Sony punish someone for sharing game content that they allowed on the system, with tools they provided? If anything they should have made the nudity unable to be recorded; I bet they probably think the OP did this on his own, with photoshop or whatever, and have no clue that this stuff is in game.
 

Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
Thanks for the info. In that case, the ban makes sense. Is there any way to disable that and just share directly on Twitter etc.?

Its somewhat "funny" that a game itself is perfectly fine, but sharing pictures from it is not. Its not like that the images are user generated content that were created either, its content that the developers themself made.
Yes but doing so also removes all your other automatic PSN feed posts such as what game you just purchased, trophies just earned, recent new friends, etc....

The option is given to you when you first sign in on the console and you can change it any time by going to your PSN settings and editing your privacy options to not share your activities.
 

Zaru

Member
I love that in a game that allows someone to murder hundreds of people but be "the good guy", people are more upset about genital textures.

We live in fucked up times.

Being okay with mass murder but not anything remotely sexual or even accurately anatomical is pretty much the essence of the USA (as perceived by Europeans)
 

Ricky_R

Member
The issue is that you shared it. It clearly says in the Terms and Conditions that the vagina was soley for your enjoyment.
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Here's Sony's guidelines for sharing that mentions sexual content


If this content is deemed "sexually offensive" then why are you allowing developers to put it on your platform?
Someone on your friendslist must have found it offensive otherwise it'd have gone unnoticed.

You choose what you play and what you share on your PSN social feed. Others don't get to choose what they see from your social feed. That's common sense.
 

Justinh

Member
Seems strange that they'd ban you for using their features in a game sold on their network, but I guess it makes sense. People can't just go throwing screenshots of vaginas around like they were some... (I thought I had something. I lost it...something about the rose petals in Coming to America (the movie)). Sucks you got banned, at least it's not too harsh. Still feels weird to me that you were banned.

Now Ubisoft can add 'iconic vagina' to their Watch Dogs franchise buzzword repertoire.
It's the next game's preorder bonus.
Are you saying this is gonna be huge? I should go back to that show, I haven't seen it in years and never saw it all.
Now that's what I call box art
Pfffffffffttt...

I still don't see where the ban makes sense. It's a game for adults, with adult content. How can Sony punish someone for sharing game content that they allowed on the system, with tools they provided? If anything they should have made the nudity unable to be recorded; I bet they probably think the OP did this on his own, with photoshop or whatever, and have no clue that this stuff is in game.

Yeah, but I guess people who weren't going to play the game because of things that would've gotten it that rating could still see the screen shot. Is shared content age-gated somehow?

Really though, I just wanted to quote you because of your username.
 

spannicus

Member
I see no problem with this honestly. I remember in college when we had to sketch nudes. Some of the girls didnt want to see the male models penis lmao.
 

RevenWolf

Member
I fail to see why this is an issue. Sure, if you were to see the vagina of one character, and it was visible whilst everything else was covered, then you have an issue. However, the fact you can see the vagina, penis, and breasts of multiple characters in the city make is an non issue.

Ubisoft have decided that nudity, regardless of gender, is not taboo for their game, and believe it should not be feared whilst gore and profanity are glorified.

The childish reaction of some in this thread to viewing the images are a much bigger issues than the content itself.

I agree with this. It seems like an intentional decision, and the fact both genders are naked is a good thing.

I feel it would be more of an issue if only woman's giblets were visible, but having both seems like a fair compromise. The game is rated M and the human body isn't some evil creation.
 

Alebrije

Member
Did not know Watchdogs was so explicit/violent , thought was just a game where you wandered haking stuff but it looks more like GTA plus the hacking stuff.

The game looks fun but not really a fan of GTA violent approach
 
Did not know Watchdogs was so explicit/violent , thought was just a game where you wandered haking stuff but it looks more like GTA plus the hacking stuff.

The game looks fun but not really a fan of GTA violent approach
Did you miss the videos where it showed the main character pulling out an AK-47 and shooting while hacking?
 

RionaaM

Unconfirmed Member
Someone on your friendslist must have found it offensive otherwise it'd have gone unnoticed.

You choose what you play and what you share on your PSN social feed. Others don't get to choose what they see from your social feed. That's common sense.
Don't they get to choose who they want to follow? I'd rather stop following someone than get them banned for posting screenshots I don't like.
 

Xyber

Member
I still don't get why a naked body is worse than showing a clip of you killing half the city, which would be completely fine and not get you suspended.

The game is rated M, I don't see any problems with it showing some nude people or having a prostitute "dressed for work" :p.
 

Aenima

Member
I still don't see where the ban makes sense. It's a game for adults, with adult content. How can Sony punish someone for sharing game content that they allowed on the system, with tools they provided? If anything they should have made the nudity unable to be recorded; I bet they probably think the OP did this on his own, with photoshop or whatever, and have no clue that this stuff is in game.
Because the tool they provide for sharing has aown set of rulles that ppl may follow. The game is rated for mature audience, now if u share a mature image or video on PSN that dont allow that type of content you risk a suspension. Is not that hard to understand.
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Don't they get to choose who they follow? I'd rather stop following someone than get them banned for posting screenshots I don't like.
How do you know someone you innocently added to your friendslist is going to post vag on their PSN feed in the future?

I would probably report them and then remove them from my friendslist.
 

Catdaddy

Member
Someone on your friendslist must have found it offensive otherwise it'd have gone unnoticed.

You choose what you play and what you share on your PSN social feed. Others don't get to choose what they see from your social feed. That's common sense.

Or got picked up with the hashtag ps4share
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Did not know Watchdogs was so explicit/violent , thought was just a game where you wandered haking stuff but it looks more like GTA plus the hacking stuff.

The game looks fun but not really a fan of GTA violent approach
You can beat the game without killing anyone, first weapon you get is a stun gun with unlimited ammo.
 
Do you disagree? What other games can you name that show the female anatomy in such detail?

Why does it need to have happened before to be okay going forward? Maybe the way it is presented in the Tweet makes it seem bad, but a virtual presentation of genitals of either genre in a game is not intrinsically bad. If the player chooses to zoom in that is their own prerogative. They are making that choice.

If Ubi had a collection of badly directed cutscenes focusing on them, then that may be an issues. However, there is no evidence of that yet, and as far as I know such cutscenes do not exist. They appear in the game, and Ubi thinks it is an okay thing to do. It might be taboo, but Ubi chose to break that barrier. I am not saying they should be applauded for doing so, but they in no way should not be ostracized.
 
Why is extreme violence okay but nudity is not?
We can kill a shit load of people in the most graphic ways possible but not show any skin?
It's not like there are any sex acts occurring, they're just nude.
So the nude human body is inherently sexual?
What a dumb fucking policy, it's in the fucking game.

This is exactly how I feel. People are weird. It's a vagina; about half the population has one.
 
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