Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I find it ironic that a game also for last gen systems is considered a "marquee" title considering the complaints against Zelda and Mario Kart are that they are "ports".
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Jefferies Equity Analyst: Mario Kart 8D a "mega-hit on a different scale altogether"
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I find it ironic that a game also for last gen systems is considered a "marquee" title considering the complaints against Zelda and Mario Kart are that they are "ports".
For fucking real, people could also just opt to buy the game on other system. This "starving fan will buy anything made a game success" made little sense to me. If that's how it works Alien Vs Predator on Atari Jaguar would have joined the rank of best selling games of all time.
A good sale is a good sale.
edit: nevermind.
A good sale is a good sale.
edit: nevermind.
sixteen-bit
Member
Congrats on the success
Suppaaaaa Sumashuuuu Brazzassss
KodeAndGame
Member
It's been made clear that some people prefer a bad AAA (Knack at PS4 launch) to a good indie
MisterHero
Super Member
It was just a little thought I had back then, but MKDS had blown up already. MKWii outselling GTAIV still surprises me a little.
But Rockstar has GTAV/Online and sold 75 million. How will Mario Kart respond!!?!?
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Note my first line of text. Mario Kart was going to sell well no matter what since it's Nintendo's biggest-selling franchise. The dearth of Switch content means that it doesn't have a whole lot of competition and thus magnifies it's selling status. Other factors include good marketing and Switch fever still running high.
...no, most people bought the console to play Zelda. Mario Kart just happens to be the next big first party release.
Why does everyone seem to think I'm somehow attacking the Switch when I state obvious facts? lol
Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
LegendofLex
Member
It's going to be Smash Bros.
The funniest thing about Switch launch is seeing how many people try to say it has a bad launch library.
You know what the tell for a good launch library is?
Sales.
phoenix296
Member
I have MK8 on WiiU but had to get it on switch. Love to kart on the go.
Zelmardonpoktendo
Banned
Love these posts because then every post after it's a battle between "Nintendo is amazing and Nintendo is doomed posts" lol
Did you forget Splatoon comes out in a few months my man?
Fast Forward
Member
Yep.
Other than Pokemon, Mario Kart is Nintendo's most successful franchise. More so than Zelda, Mario, or SSB. MK8D was always going to be a big hit.
2008 GAF was a fanboy mess. Way worse than it is now. Some people were crazy delusional.
Keep in mind, that this was at the height of insane Wii sales in the US. Wii sold just under 715k in April 2008. It sold about the same in March 2008 as well. PS3 and 360 were selling in the 175-250k range in those months.
I don't know if anyone said that MK was actually sent to die, but people expected GTA IV to magically turn things around.
thesolidshark
Member
Laughing way harder than I should at that, but can't help it. How hilarious and terrifying to imagine that kind of Mario & Luigi.
As far as MK8, well-deserved for its Switch success. Hope it continues to do well.
Milly Osworth
Member
Mario Kart 8 on Switch is fooking good. So much better than on shitty wiiu.
If enough people try this it will become huuuuuge.
Its the perfect Mario Kart and MK is one of the best casual games = 💰💰💰
If enough people try this it will become huuuuuge.
Its the perfect Mario Kart and MK is one of the best casual games = 💰💰💰
WordAssassin
Member
No it doesn't. It's a mascot kart racing game.
I brought this up in another thread and nobody seemed able to answer, but saying "game X is only doing well because console Y is starved for games" is implying that people who would otherwise never have bought the game in the first place are buying it purely to have a game to play. I'm pretty sure reality doesn't work that way (correct me if I'm wrong, though!). People who don't like racing games aren't buying Mario Kart just because they have some burning itch to spend $60.
This doesn't apply to just Mario Kart either. It applies to anyone who tries to use the "oh of course it's selling, duh, there's nothing else to play" excuse to try and diminish any game's sales no matter the system. It also doesn't even make sense for Switch because there's actually a ton of shit available on it already, I and many others on GAF have posted about being shocked at just how many more games we've bought on Switch during launch than during any other system launch before it. The only thing it's missing right now is an FPS, it has adventure/platformer/racer/kart racer/rpg/fighting/etc etc etc. There's a little something for everyone. People aren't just buying Mario Kart to buy something, give the game and team a little more credit than that.
Fast Forward
Member
With Hyrule Warriors Complete and Super Mario Maker Extra.
Yeah I was gonna say Smash 4 too. Nintendo about to pick up all the money they left on the proverbial Wii U table.
Isn't that a sequel, or so people like to insist?
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
That's not how it works but ok.
So I just got this nagging feeling,, kept me up all night and felt worse and worse. Browsed my Switch catalogue, looking for an oasis of games to find in this drought. There was a light.. a shimmer or glimmer of hope.. and finally it came to me
You are now the new proud owner of Vroom in the Night Sky
Man I was so starved I just had to buy that, already have 21 friends on friendlist playing as well!
You are now the new proud owner of Vroom in the Night Sky
Man I was so starved I just had to buy that, already have 21 friends on friendlist playing as well!
LegendofLex
Member
If this is how it worked, then Mario Kart 8 would have been the fastest-selling Mario Kart back on Wii U, too, since it was selling to a bigger install base during an even worse game drought for Wii U owners.
Obviously, this isn't how it works. Switch owners are buying Switch because they want the games.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
IT'S SELLING WELL BECAUSE IT'S MARIO KART.
Mario Kart 8 managed 8 million units sold on a userbase that barely broke 11 million. If there's a safe bet for a game selling well, it's Mario Kart for sure.
The next one's gonna be Minecraft. Minecraft's gonna sell like goddamn crack cocaine because it's Minecraft. It'll be bolstered by Switch mania as well.
There's a lot of folks buying Switch software just because they have the Switch and they're loving filling it up with games to play. All those Neo Geo ports are getting a lot more exposure because they're not being dropped in the middle of a bunch of other games. They likely don't sell as well on other platforms because customers already have a ridiculous amount of content to sift through but on the Switch they stand out when there's less 50 games on the eShop to begin with.
This isn't some sort of slight against the Switch because I fucking love mine, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is in this perfect storm situation where it's a Mario Kart game on a new platform that's selling well and getting a ton of exposure. It'd be more surprising if it didn't sell well.
ghostwritingduck
Member
Are you assuming that most Switch owners don't own other consoles? This year has been filled with incredible AAA games and the game still sold very well.
freethoughtbubble
Member
LIES
Tut
Can confirm one sale here. I don't even like kart racers like at all but MK8D is the first game to release in such a long time on the switch that I just had to buy it so I could have something to play. I was so starved for a game I didn't even buy something else for PC or something cause I didn't wanna risk spoiling my appetite.
Probably no 3DW for at least a year so they can give Odyssey some breathing room.
People deluding themselves into thinking another entry in a series that consistently sells multi-millions is only selling well because of an apparent lack of games or questioning whether it would be selling well if it had "AAA" competition is my new favourite thing here on GAF. Goddamn salt mine.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Well nothing I said is factually incorrect, so either you didn't research very well or didn't grasp it.
Maybe if you came to me with your questions you'd know what you were talking about.
Alebrije
Member
MK is a beast.
Zelda returned to be a beast.
Smash will come and will be a beast
Splatoon is a new kind of beast
Xenoblade 2 will be a beast
And the old beasts just waiting :
Mario
Metroid
DK
But for me the most important signal will be the sales of Skyrim.
If Bethesda feels fine about them this could mean Fallout 4 on Switch or Dishonored 2 ports. Skyrim could be the flagship for the return of AAA games from external developers.
Meanwhile good numbers for MK, and glad the Switch has had a good beginning
Zelda returned to be a beast.
Smash will come and will be a beast
Splatoon is a new kind of beast
Xenoblade 2 will be a beast
And the old beasts just waiting :
Mario
Metroid
DK
But for me the most important signal will be the sales of Skyrim.
If Bethesda feels fine about them this could mean Fallout 4 on Switch or Dishonored 2 ports. Skyrim could be the flagship for the return of AAA games from external developers.
Meanwhile good numbers for MK, and glad the Switch has had a good beginning
WordAssassin
Member
So what you are saying to me, by shouting that it's selling purely based off the fact that it's a Mario Kart game, is that people who own a Switch and have absolutely no interest in racing games of any kind are buying it anyway, because it's Mario Kart. Is that right?
And the next success being Minecraft, will only be successful because it's Minecraft? So again people who have no interest in Minecraft whatsoever (and there are a fucking ton of those, believe me) will be buying it just because either "it's Minecraft" or "there's nothing else to play"?
If I'm misunderstanding you please correct me, it's been a trying week and I could very well be missing something very obvious ):
Edit: Caught your update and to an extent I see what you mean and can agree with you, but at the same time, Minecraft has released on systems late in their lives with enormous game libraries and still sold well, so I don't think the "game drought" excuse will work there and again, I'm pretty sure that people who own a PS4 don't just buy Minecraft "because it's Minecraft". Anecdotal I know but I know a ton of people who have PS4s who won't touch Minecraft with a 10 foot pole. And others still that play on their PCs but won't touch the console versions because of the controls or crafting table changes.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
It's really baffling how in a matter of 9 months Nintendo went from the company nobody cared about, claimed was doomed, and should go third party to the hot shit that everyone is suddenly rooting for.
As someone who's always been rooting for 'em, took you guys long enough.
As someone who's always been rooting for 'em, took you guys long enough.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Atlus will do that themselves I'm sure they're frothing at the opportunity for another cheap port.
MK8D on the go is magical. It should hopefully have pretty strong legs unless MK9 comes out and cuts its life short.
lmao
Suburban Thug
Member
Had no idea the game would be this huge. I have some crow to eat.
I don't know if they will bother with 3D world at all. Mario Odyssey will be them pushing the franchise forward again, and (hopefully) saying goodbye to the general format we have had post Galaxy 2. I really liked 3D land/World, but I am ready for something more expansive again.
The big three will be Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild (sort of), and Smash 4. Splatoon and probably Mario Maker are going the sequel route.
I could maybe see Xenoblade Chronicles X getting a remaster at some point after XB2 launches.
Phatosaurus
Member
I stood up in queue for 10 hours to a buy a PS4, can confirm nothing came close to Mario Kart or BotW.
Just to stay 100% here, I got Killzone SF, Resogun and later Knack.
Killzone was the weakest entry in the series in my opinion, felt really gimmicky at times.
Resogun was a superb game and my most played launch game.
Knack hardlocked up my PS4 multiple times, never finished it.
I later sold my PS4, then bought a second hand one over a year later with Bloodborne.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Super Mario Odyssey is going to be colossal.
For all the heat nintendo receives, it seems like their 2017 strategy will pay great dividends.
Splatoon will sell extremely well. ARMS looks like a fantastic game, from the team behind MK8 no less! Should it receive a marketing push it seems like another game which will most definitely capture both casuals and enthusiasts.
Xenoblade 2 and Mario Oddessey for the end of the year, alongside hypothetical Smash 4 and Pokemon stars will push the console for a while alone.
For all the heat nintendo receives, it seems like their 2017 strategy will pay great dividends.
Splatoon will sell extremely well. ARMS looks like a fantastic game, from the team behind MK8 no less! Should it receive a marketing push it seems like another game which will most definitely capture both casuals and enthusiasts.
Xenoblade 2 and Mario Oddessey for the end of the year, alongside hypothetical Smash 4 and Pokemon stars will push the console for a while alone.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Mario Kart is an established franchise. It's been around for 25 years now. Folks don't see it as a racing game, they see it as Mario Kart, it's almost in a genre to itself. It's practically a party game at this point, bolstered by the Switch's "out of the box" multiplayer functionality.
Tons of people will be buying Minecraft because it's Minecraft. It again will be bolstered by less competition and more word of mouth because it's on that new Switch thing everyone is talking about.
It's literally the Wii/Wii Sports situation all over again where a console is selling well because of it's software and the software is selling well because the console is popular.
Switch users have their new toy and are hyper-aware of software releases because they're looking for new stuff to play. My use of the word "starved" earlier was incorrect...I guess what I mean to say is "Switch users looking for games to play".
I hope so, I would definitely double dip.
Fast Forward
Member
Same.
Before I purchased the Switch in March, I only purchased it for BotW, and the promise of MK8D in April. Now, I have 7 games in my digital collection, and I barely scratched the surface of half of them, because there's so many games to play. Hell, just with Treasure Trove I have a lot of game left before that baby is all said and done.
We'll go back to the nintendoomed cycle eventually.
"Too many positive Switch threads, are we jinxing it?"
Splatoon 2 apparently.
Was Xenoblade a sales hit? Genuinely asking since I don't know.
Metroid is a solid seller but I didn't think it was considered a beast. With 17M series sales it is above Star Fox but below Animal Crossing and Kirby, and given both of those series' immense handheld success I expect them to come soon enough, especially the former since a mobile entry is coming and that would likely be timed to promote a new full game. There are some other mega franchises I'd expect to push HW sales significantly, as well, like Pokémon. But back to Metroid, maybe a new Western-style Metroid entry could be a megahit like BOTW, and it would further legitimize the system for many Western owners.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Smash. Or Pokemon. It's not Wii U but it'll just be a 3DS version of a boost.
LegendofLex
Member
What I find weird about the perception that Switch users are starved for games is that this is the first time in the last five years that I feel like I'm not starved for games on my Nintendo system.
I've got great content coming basically every month for the rest of the year.
I've got great content coming basically every month for the rest of the year.