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Joystiq will not be reviewing Nier
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Foxtastical
Member
This is why we can review games without beating them.
Stop thinking in the past. You don't need to beat a game to review it.
Stop thinking in the past. You don't need to beat a game to review it.
Kobun Heat
Member
- There's no post-review embargo, Square Enix just sat on review copies until the game was out in a transparent attempt to, well, not have any reviews appear for a long time. Accomplished.
- Editors are not "paid to review games," they're paid to make high-level decisions about what content gets produced for a particular outlet. In this case, he's making the decision that this is the extent of the coverage he will give to it.
- Editors are not "paid to review games," they're paid to make high-level decisions about what content gets produced for a particular outlet. In this case, he's making the decision that this is the extent of the coverage he will give to it.
NinjaFromTheFuture
Member
How so? There are tons of games out there with mini-games that you are forced to do at least once in order to progress further into the game. As someone already mentioned, even Twilight Princess forces you to fish early on in the game too. In fact, I think almost every Zelda game has some point like this.~Kinggi~ said:
I think the New York Times blogs are shitty, and you might think Joystiq is, as well. But whining like brats that it isn't "professional" is the most obnoxious thing in the fucking world. Do any of you really want to read AP-styled articles? There's a reason the blog format is so popular. It's professional because it's Joystiq's profession to cater to and entertain its readers, as well as inform them.Gravijah said:
John Rabbit
Banned
i found it deeply disturbing; a grown man on the verge of tears because of a videogame.Feep said:
sad.
(shrug) That's fine. The story might very well be stupid. (He seems to think the fishing part is mandatory, people here are saying it's optional?) But the professionalism thing annoys me greatly. It isn't Joystiq's job to be "professional" in the way many people here seem to think is necessary. If they did so, they would be far less entertaining, and their business would suffer.Gravijah said:
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
BlazingDarkness said:
Here's a video review I found on That Guy With the Glasses from The Sage at Blistered Thumbs on neir. He left out the fishing mechanic. Maybe it doesn't play such a big role as the Joystiq guy warrants. Or maybe he just had more time on his hands to just go roll with the punches.
Either way, it looks like this game is safe to pass over for most.
Edit: It helps if I put a link to the review...
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/the-sage/sage-review/21100-nier
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
EvaPlusMinus said:
But it has hermaphrodites.
Azure Dream
Member
Meet your nightmare...
Baloonatic
Member
Feep said:
I think the first time is mandatory. You get the quest and there is a beach RIGHT NEXT TO where you get it from. Literally less than 10 feet away. Why you would go anywhere else is beyond me. It took me barely any time to complete as the fish you need only takes 5 seconds to reel in.
John Rabbit
Banned
why? because i don't find a grown man acting like this to be entertaining? please enlighten me as to why i should find it funny that a supposedly matured adult would be reduced to acting like a child because of a virtual world?EvaPlusMinus said:
stupid response. your turn.
Baloonatic
Member
Kyoufu said:
Yeah, this frustrates me as well. People believe anything they read and will just think that the game is completely broken. The truth is that it's a tiny part of the game that you will get through in less than 2 minutes.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Theres no injustice here. The people who actually want to give Nier a chance will buy it/play it. This isn't a mass market game and its certainly not a game for everyone. And its hardly the best jrpg this generation.
Theres a reason impressions seem so positive on this game. The crowd that goes for this game are of course buying it. They are able to put up with these flaws because its part of a genre they understand and like. Put this in front of the typical people who maybe just play FF but venture little past that and you will get a lot more negative impressions.
Theres a reason impressions seem so positive on this game. The crowd that goes for this game are of course buying it. They are able to put up with these flaws because its part of a genre they understand and like. Put this in front of the typical people who maybe just play FF but venture little past that and you will get a lot more negative impressions.
Majmun
Member
Their loss. The game is great.
Got the Ps3 version since last friday. The shaman fish mission went perfect.
The dude is doing something wrong. You're also supposed to pull the left analog stick back to reduce the HP. He's clearly not doing that because the fish HP depletes way too slow in this game.
It takes me less than 15 seconds to catch a shaman fish. But the other (optional) fishing is pretty hard to do...
Got the Ps3 version since last friday. The shaman fish mission went perfect.
The dude is doing something wrong. You're also supposed to pull the left analog stick back to reduce the HP. He's clearly not doing that because the fish HP depletes way too slow in this game.
It takes me less than 15 seconds to catch a shaman fish. But the other (optional) fishing is pretty hard to do...
It's not his job to review the game, it's his job to generate clicks. He is for sure going to generate a lot more clicks with this then he would with a review, so he should probably get a bonus. Obviously, if he did this with every review, the fun would wear off quick.
I do think he should have talked to other people to see if this was such a problem, apparently he was doing it wrong. I'm not sure his concerns are actually valid, kind of like that guy who played and criticized Mass Effect without ever leveling up, his criticisms of the game were not valid imho.
Edit: I did think the video was very funny. My gf who was laying on the couch next to me was just hearing him talking and she laughed too, so good on him.
I do think he should have talked to other people to see if this was such a problem, apparently he was doing it wrong. I'm not sure his concerns are actually valid, kind of like that guy who played and criticized Mass Effect without ever leveling up, his criticisms of the game were not valid imho.
Edit: I did think the video was very funny. My gf who was laying on the couch next to me was just hearing him talking and she laughed too, so good on him.
itsnervedamage
Member
Has anyone mentioned that this happened because he didn't know how to read the X on the map?
Seriously, that's the funny part to me.
Seriously, that's the funny part to me.
Baloonatic
Member
Hmm, I just had a pretty good idea. I think that video games should come with little paper booklets that explain these things. In-game tutorials aren't enough for people I guess.
Wait, what's this inside my case for NieR?!
Wait, what's this inside my case for NieR?!
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I am, it's hot. :lolJWong said:
John Rabbit
Banned
uh huh.EvaPlusMinus said:
EvaPlusMinus said:
Check out the official thread. Don't think there is a single negative impression from anyone in the thread.
In fact, people who were down on the game went out and bought it, played it and changed their tone.
Its a great game. Under-rated but thats because it doesn't have FFXIII levels of visuals and polish. Too bad that its far more fun and exciting to play than it and any other JRPG this gen.
BlazingDarkness
Member
EvaPlusMinus said:
read some impressions from gaf
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Seriously, Metacritic's your source for good games?EvaPlusMinus said:
HamPster PamPster
Member
We all have our Carnival Night Zone Act 2 Barrel's and this guy just found his
Still tempted by the kmart deal
Still tempted by the kmart deal
sonic 3 SUCKS!!! as so does that part in FFIX where you need to use the shitty card game
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I honestly expected the Nier thread on GAF to be full of self-deprecating humor surrounding their masochistic gaming tendencies.
I was floored to find everyone was loving it. Then I picked it up and played it. Now I get why they enjoy it.
I was floored to find everyone was loving it. Then I picked it up and played it. Now I get why they enjoy it.
Baloonatic
Member
itsnervedamage said:
Yeah it's pretty amazing that he couldn't figure out how to follow a quest marker.
Net_Wrecker
Member
YagizY said:
That was HILARIOUS :lol :lol