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Just Cause 3 screenshots Leaked [Update: New microtransaction hell screenshots]
- Thread starter Mistah
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More like, Deus Ex: Microtransaction Revolution
...that's exactly my point. These were most likely leaked by a disgruntled person, and if GAF threads are anything to go by (let alone common sense), disgruntled employees do all sorts of shit for all sorts of reasons. Just because Avalanche wasn't ready to show this stuff off doesn't mean that they have some sinister plan that they're holding off on until after you buy the game. Nothing that people are freaking out is even announced, let alone final. Like I said, no one even knows if this game is going to be F2P or not.
In my first post in this thread, I commented that the vast majority of people who own JC2 probably got it for like $3, because it's been on sale so many times over the last couple of years in that price range and has lived through excellent word of mouth. It didn't sell gangbusters at $60. It probably underperformed at that price range. So, who's to say that JC3 won't be F2P with the developers hoping to get a higher average spend per user, and every bit as "free" as highly-lauded F2Ps like LoL, Hearthstone, DOTA, and TF2? No one in here, not off a few screenshots that, by your own reasoning, were likely leaked by someone looking to damage the perception of the game.
But making sweeping proclamations over incomplete information is everyone's right, I guess. Doesn't mean I can't find it funny.
The Shogun
Banned
Thinking about it if the rumors are true and the Deus Ex sequel is a straight up, legit follow up without all these microtransactions I hope the gaming community throws their support behind it and it does fantastic. Show SE that we still want great, self contained, story driven experiences.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Two more leaked screenshots from the AGB Twitter.
https://twitter.com/AllGamesBeta/status/530486355558952960
Yeah fuck off avalanche. Not interested in this shit.
Publishers are going to hit a wall soon enough. Keep pushing these shitty business models and eventually people are just going to give up buying your games full stop.
CitizenCope
Member
Wow I will pass on this so quick even with it being my favorite open world series. The best way to get around a map wasted.
a secret-boss
Banned
fucking Square plaguing even the western devs
backflip10019
Member
Those new screenshots of the micro transactions literally made me feel sick to my stomach. Fucking disgusting.
CurlySaysX
Banned
Will it have Steamos support?
WarMacheen
Member
Not a fan of people losing their jobs, but If this game is what it looks to be, I hope it is DOA and crashes and burns so hard that people who had a hand in it go down with it.
and lets be honest here, $7 isn't micro.
and lets be honest here, $7 isn't micro.
Living Proof
Member
Well, I can't say that it doesn't make sense from Avalanche's (or SE) perspective. I suppose the fact that many people are clearly vehemently opposed to this type of model shown in the leaked screenshots, myself included, hinders in approaching this issue from a more enencompassing standpoint. It's easy enough to ignore or berate a perspective that you disagree with, especially if it makes more sense to the side of the industry many of us aren't intimate with, so I'll continue to keep my eyes open here. That doesn't mean I support the decision, mind you, but it may seem rational to those behind the scenes.
Yeah, if shinobi is correct about the next Deus Ex being a true sequel (I hope that means no micro-transactions also) then us fans need to show our support and catch SE's eye.
I am very sad about this for JC, and I hope it backfires.
how?
WarMacheen
Member
-Pyromaniac-
Member
LOL. I'm glad I was never really into just cause but I feel for those that were. This really sucks. At least it'll most likely flop, so there's that.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Couldnt it just be in-game money?
it's most likely happening tho.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=659601
JC was on that list and DE is also on it.
their western side went downhill a long ago. what they did to Hitman series, TR reboot, Thief also picking awful to publish (Murdered Soul Suspect), Deus Ex: The Fall, Sleeping Dogs awful HD remasters, canceling Montreal hitman and turning the new studio into mobile/f2p. their western side is a mess.
what was their "one step forward?" using UE4?
AusRoachman
Member
That will make 3 franchises i love from the one publisher ruined in a single generation. Unbelievable
- Sleeping Dogs
- Just Cause 3
- Deus Ex (i have no doubt they are pursuing this model as well)
Can probably add hitman to that list but i will just have to wait and see.
- Sleeping Dogs
- Just Cause 3
- Deus Ex (i have no doubt they are pursuing this model as well)
Can probably add hitman to that list but i will just have to wait and see.
SerTapTap
Member
New store pic is absolutely disgusting. Won't even download this crap for free. Refuse to add a number to their stats.
1) That merchant was the WORST part of JC2 as is
2) top new pick confirms Diamonds = money and some absurd F2P "wait" system
1) That merchant was the WORST part of JC2 as is
2) top new pick confirms Diamonds = money and some absurd F2P "wait" system
Muppet of a Man
Member
FryIseewhatyoudidthere.gif
Laughable in that they expect people to pay for this.
LurkerPrime
Member
Two more leaked screenshots from the AGB Twitter.
https://twitter.com/AllGamesBeta/status/530486355558952960
Well this sure is disappointing.
I fully expect the fourth tier of gems to be "11000 gems / $99.99 - BEST DEAL" scumbaggery.
MvmntInGrn
Member
I don't even want this game enough to pay full price, let alone full price + microtransactions. It really seems like a recipe for failure. Do we know that this is full price for sure?
I mean maybe they'd get traction with a more popular franchise but this seems like a death sentence. Makes season passes look attractive (and they are already an abomination).
I mean maybe they'd get traction with a more popular franchise but this seems like a death sentence. Makes season passes look attractive (and they are already an abomination).
Reminds me a lot of MS pre-180 on the whole DRM debacle. It's like it's the ultimate truth and anyone who disagrees is either dumb, naive or uninformed. These microtransaction systems might be in their plans, but as long as this shit persists, they won't see my money. It's that simple. And I loved JC2, but with them trying to pull this kind of shit, I'm out. It's not my fault devs can't project their games in a way that doesn't break the bank, hence making them resort to this kind of bs to stay profitable. JC2 seemed a B tier game and it did fine, what made them want to pursue this avenue of profit is beyond me. Most people I know hate these practices with a passion.
Be more modest with your budget and you won't have to nickel and dime your loyal fans to stay afloat.
dragonbane
Member
Well, there aren't any facts obviously, but our most accurate insider Shinobi has told us a long while ago (before this leak occurred) and now confirmed that the game is not F2P, but won't have a traditional ($60) release either. The recent tweets by Avalanche's CEO seem to support that.
MvmntInGrn
Member
Interesting. I don't know if anything but F2P will work though, I think games media and gamers alike are going to eat this game alive with bad word of mouth. Reaction will be very interesting to watch, and will be watched by companies other than Square.
I hate feeling this way, but my initial reaction is to hope the game does very poorly.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Microtransactions, and it doesn't look like it's Rico?
I'm out.
I'm out.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
LOL at the new screens. They can rot in hell for all I care.
Just like a turd, huh? Devs, please don't turn JC3 into a turd
Portugeezer
Member
[Update: New microtransaction hell screenshots]
*clicks thread*
*clicks thread*
LurkerPrime
Member
That's really the worst part. No Scorpio is unacceptable.
I still haven't seen a grappling hook, either...
NullPointer
Member
Drop timers too? Kill it with fire.
What makes you say that, if, as you say, they chose those screens in particular? If they chose to reveal the microtransactions screens in particular, they obviously wanted to damage the brand. If those screens are correct in any way, then that really, really sucks.
Microtransactions ruin 95% of the games they are in; the remaining 5% are single match based multiplayer games that are competitive based, and as such, are significantly smaller in scope than any single player game because they can only function with the round/match competition based gameplay.
While people may have played a multiplayer, competitive based game for hundreds of hours, that doesn't mean that it has a lot of exciting variety or content; the length completely relies on competition between players; people who want to beat the other player(s), and become more skilled to beat more.
New items or content means very little in these types of games compared to single player games; getting a new weapon or ability is nowhere near as exciting, as the only question is whether or not that item or content allows you to be a better player, and if not, it's essentially worthless. The only items and content that matter are the things that you take with you into each match, and it tends to be the same exact items for all the players or all the classes.
Not that you even would have time to appreciate the graphics beyond a second or two; after that, the only thing that matters is what makes you more efficient at defeating the other player(s).
Not to mention that they don't offer the same type of reward or satisfaction that single player games do; in competitive based games, the satisfaction, obviously, comes from asserting your dominance or that you are a good player, like in any real world sport.
I don't mind this at all if the progression is the same as other games. Look at it from their perspective: later on after the title's out in the marketplace lots of customers purchase the game used possibly under $10. They need to make something from those customers, which I happen to be one of in case anyone accuses me of elitism, and this is the route to success.
If you don't like it then don't buy the game and wait for a Steam/PSN/XBL sale and intentionally screw up their sales projections. This is almost a non issue for me pending an official statement from the developer as well as more information on this title.
Is there a trailer available for this game? For all we know this idea was scrapped and this is old news.
If you don't like it then don't buy the game and wait for a Steam/PSN/XBL sale and intentionally screw up their sales projections. This is almost a non issue for me pending an official statement from the developer as well as more information on this title.
Is there a trailer available for this game? For all we know this idea was scrapped and this is old news.
The problem is the game becomes designed around these transactions from the ground up, harming the game itself from a fundamental design standpoint. It's complete shit, and they have no right making more than the game is worth at any point in time (in case you haven't noticed, the price of DLC doesn't fall alongside the game).