I do that. Every guy I knows does that. Are they a target for me? Normally I either do nothing, or make small talk. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't. Am I a monster?
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Killer is Dead 'can fuck off into space' - Matt Lees talks about "Gigolo mode"
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velociraptor
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I do agree that this Gigolo mode sounds weird, but honestly Matt? That was a huge fucking overreaction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yzRc33psU
That's Gigolo mode right there. Laughably bad, but if the actual game is good, then I won't take a white knight stance just because the game features a cringeworthy segment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yzRc33psU
That's Gigolo mode right there. Laughably bad, but if the actual game is good, then I won't take a white knight stance just because the game features a cringeworthy segment.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
All the people saying "lol male feminists" are adding nothing to this conversation.
Here's a video of Gigolo mode for those curious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yzRc33psU
This looks so stupid. Her moaning when you focus on her (and press a button?) haha what is this shit. It's like a parody of Gal Gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yzRc33psU
This looks so stupid. Her moaning when you focus on her (and press a button?) haha what is this shit. It's like a parody of Gal Gun.
TaroYamada
Member
Yup, everything should made with as broad of appeal as possible. That's not horrible logic.
Yup, you're a pig. A big fat pig at a titty trough. You pig.
i wouldn't call that video "criticism", tho.
All puzzles essentially. You do stuff to sleep with women and manipulate people into doing what you want.
If somebody thinks this is supposed to mimic real life, well, they shoudl stay away from video games altogether.
Muffdraul
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What's wrong with being sexy?
Black Door
Banned
And your post is Nobel-worthy discourse.
Gun Animal
Member
Took the title as meaning you could literally fuck in space, seeing as how one of the levels does take place on the moon. Already pre-ordered three copies so I could give it as a gift to some friends, this just makes me want to pre-order even more copies.
SolidSnakex
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Several people here that played it at E3 listed it as one of their favorite games of the show and noted that it has by far the best gameplay of any Suda title.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
:/
Lees, I know you post here and you're a cool guy, but I gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed you're writing off the entire game and trying to make others do the same because of one obviously satirical mode that has nothing to do with the main game.
Lees, I know you post here and you're a cool guy, but I gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed you're writing off the entire game and trying to make others do the same because of one obviously satirical mode that has nothing to do with the main game.
fabricated backlash
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I'll let you in on a secret: Women do stare, and imagine what's under that shirt/tight jeans.
It's called being a sexually active human being.
You don't treat them like a human being; you just stare at them as an object of lust without actually caring for their personality, interests, et cetera. You treat them like an object that is to be had and nothing more.
What am I saying that the video isn't representing? I don't find myself to be at all far from what was presented.
Would staring at them overtly for the purposes of curiosity be any better?
Maybe they're sex objects because they're presented as sex objects. If they didn't want to be sex objects, they could simply stick to a T-shirt and jeans (which is acceptable attire for a bar). Or a burqa. Wearing an outfit that makes your boobies prominent and then complaining when people stare at you for dressing provocatively is rather silly.
Of course, nobody's saying they should RAPE you, but you can't fault them for staring.
I've had women stare at me before. Were they targeting me for harassment?!
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Deleted member 59090
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You do realize it's a Japanese game right?
This is what I am hoping for.
Looking at a woman is treating them like dirt? Using fictional technology is somehow something that equates to genocide?
DUFFMCWALIN
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Yup. Its like the progressive (aka not asshole) side of OT doesn't make it over here to Gaming and this side is much worse off for it.
So basically it's a
Net_Wrecker
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Hypersexuality and objectification in what's pretty clearly a "B movie" exploitation anime where a ton of ridiculous crap is happening around every corner.
SHOCKING
Now how about some gameplay impressions, huh?
SHOCKING
Now how about some gameplay impressions, huh?
I never said that, however. Using everything shouldn't appeal to everyone to justify , sexism,racism ect. In the already horrible sexist,racist,ect. world we live in isn't helping anyone really.
Regardless of my opinion of whether this is sexist or not, that train of thing just leads to prejudice in these types of situations. Its stunts conversation and no one gets anywhere.
Remember, these women are not real, it's a game.
Reluctant-Hero
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WTF did I just watch?
I've never heard of the video's narrator. But he points out near the end that the game is not going for controversy. Meanwhile I can't tell if the video was made in good conscious to create controversy and get clicks because sexism is a hot button topic in gaming right now OR if the narrator truly feels offended by the content.
I've never heard of the video's narrator. But he points out near the end that the game is not going for controversy. Meanwhile I can't tell if the video was made in good conscious to create controversy and get clicks because sexism is a hot button topic in gaming right now OR if the narrator truly feels offended by the content.
I had never heard of them until a month ago. I think their video content is pretty darn good. My personal favourite is the Animal Crossing Diaries.
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kittens
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Again, it's not about merely looking at someone you find attractive. Obviously that's okay. I draw the line at doing so in a predatory way, which the game very obviously encourages.
Valjean Lafitte
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How is it an overreaction? He's basically saying that Suda 51 can't be taken seriously as a developer with bullshit like this. It's sexist, its disgusting and it does nothing to advance the "art form" of video games (not that I'm in favor of the "video games are art" argument, but many gamers are). Whether you see it as hyperbole or not, I stand by those words because I want to believe in the respectability of the video game medium.
haha
Since when do guys go into bars picking up girls using X-ray glasses? And how is looking at their breasts and crotch without them noticing supposed to get them to want to sleep with you? And based on what I've heard, being successful in this mode gives you access to better weapons and upgrades?
These game mechanics make absolutely no sense.
These game mechanics make absolutely no sense.
QisTopTier
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Maybe he's mad that never worked for him
come on
Heavy's Sandvich
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So are computer games meant to be our moral compass?
is there any chance that the character himself is meant to be sexist?
as in intentionally designed that way?
do people think suda 51 is a misogynist?
can anyone create anything intentionally sexist?
is context dead?
where were the tears for lollipop chainsaw?
is there any chance that the character himself is meant to be sexist?
as in intentionally designed that way?
do people think suda 51 is a misogynist?
can anyone create anything intentionally sexist?
is context dead?
where were the tears for lollipop chainsaw?
fabricated backlash
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depends on your looks I guess.
Arc Christelle
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I actually like the idea of trying to incorporate sex games. I would like to see one that's actually fun.
Stupid, bogus argument. It's very simple people. The following is why ridiculous sexist depictions of women in videogames are a bigger deal than violence in videogames:
Attitudes that murder is socially acceptable are NOT widespread in society.
Attitudes that hold that it's ok to objectify women sexually ARE widespread in society.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Reading through this thread doesn't not support your argument. Of course OT has some shittiness, but sexist bullshit should be called out, not defended "because its from Japan".
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
The defenders and anti-feminists in this thread are fucking hilarious. Could any one of them please explain why they're looking forward to gigolo mode and what it brings to the table? It's embarrassing.
Treating a woman like an object that has no feelings, emotions, or personality is treating them like dirt; that is to say, an object. Fictional technology is inconsequential.
I never said that this mode is at the same level as Ethnic Cleansing, I merely brought it up to say that just because it is fantasy doesn't mean that it's not offensive or distasteful in any way.
antikythera
Banned
Some of these games even reduce men to objects to be killed, mere "targets" for violence. As if all they can do is attack you and die.
...How about more pictures of Jessica Nigri instead?
That's the worst part about this game. And the worst part about Lollipop. Suda is simping hard.
That's what he's losing his shit over? It's basically a built in mode for anyone that enjoys seeing game character's in less clothing. I guess it's ok to make characters in MGS Peacewalker run around in their bathing suits and take pictures (CQC Paz) or play Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball but Suda 51 is evil...
Wait, the women in the game don't consent to the sex?
It should be defended when it's satirical. Which is essentially all Suda and Grasshopper does post-NMH.
BocoDragon
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Today it's "progressive" vloggers getting on a high horse over some niche video games.
Yesterday it was old Catholic ladies protesting over horror comics or the scary themes in Doctor Who.
It's all the same. I will never understand the media policing instinct.
Yesterday it was old Catholic ladies protesting over horror comics or the scary themes in Doctor Who.
It's all the same. I will never understand the media policing instinct.
i forgot how beautiful this game's art style was. hot damn.
giving gifts is a little iffy, and player rewards for conquering females is a little more iffy. (*cough* sleeping dogs *cough*) but we shall see how it meshes with the rest of the game. looks suitably goofy and not realistic.
giving gifts is a little iffy, and player rewards for conquering females is a little more iffy. (*cough* sleeping dogs *cough*) but we shall see how it meshes with the rest of the game. looks suitably goofy and not realistic.
Did that many people say 'looking forward to this mode'?
Most people seem to be in the 'I will enjoy the rest of the game regardless of one silly mode' camp
If this is sarcasm ok,
if it isn't that horrible logic. I'm sorry you know song of the south you can't be offended by that it isn't real. Even though real people made it and someone thought it was ok.
And in Russia you can video tape the beating of some homosexual teens.Not saying this is anywhere near the level of the former, however country of origin justifies jackus shiticus
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