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Killzone Shadow Fall Multiplayer Impressions - PAX Prime
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And how do you know that?? The SP portion of the game is still 30 fps.
lighthatblinds15
Neo Member
they willhave it at 60. this is the first games of this gen. it will get easier for them to render 60fps when they get a better handling on the hardware.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah it's compressed. But in motion you can see the distracting flickering and flutter they (dithering and aliassing) cause.
If you know dithering and aliassing, you can tell it's there.
Dictator93
Member
oh it is there through the flickering... but I was mainly trying to point out that the image quality makes it extremely hard to notice a dithered sprite or a hard edge from aliasing.
TimeEffect
Member
Can you explain honor badges?
How many were there? What were they? Do you pick one, or multiple?
Do you earn it based on kills? Do they last the whole game, or are they like a temporary boost?
How many were there? What were they? Do you pick one, or multiple?
Do you earn it based on kills? Do they last the whole game, or are they like a temporary boost?
Yeah, dithering is definitely present in everything we've seen with foliage. AA will likely be on in the single player and but they may have dropped it to hit 60 in MP. Of course, they also could improve before launch.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah true. But it worried me a bit about how it would look while playing. There is a lot of stuff going on allready in particles and stuff. Dithering and aliassing will make it look messy. I also thought the raindrops stood out in a bad way. Cool that they splash on the floor but the falling raindrops are white & dotted and they add to that dithered distraction.
Oh well,it will probably look pretty darn good when you're trying not to get shot.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Far from perfect, yes, but you would be able to see aliasing with ease in that 1GB video, if it was that bad in the first place. I was able to see it with ease in a much lower quality E3 video.
If you're talking about the Gamescom demo, wasn't that supposed to be an alpha build?
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Just lock it at 30 and stop f'ing around. If the game is going to look like crap just to get 60fps, I'll pass.
Right. But with all the gorgeous press shots released, I would advise to temper expectations.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
yeah exactly... PS4 games will look like PS3 games, so why upgrade?
Well the game's already made a decent leap visually from the E3 demo to the Gamescom demo, so we'll no doubt see even more improvements as we get closer to launch. Evolution Studios games usually look a lot better at release than when shown at shows - so it'll look closer to the press shots at launch than it does now, at least.
He said he will get alieasing and framerate issues not games that look like PS3 ones, I can see his point if graphics are not something he cares about.
He literally said in one interview "We're 60 FPS" when making a grocery list of the MP features. I don't think he would say otherwise unless it is a target they thought they may have a chance at hitting.
EDIT: Right there
BadAss2961
Member
People assuming a locked 60fps... (face_palm.jpg)
I said it from the start that it's probably not going to happen with those graphics. Expect a variable framerate until confirmed otherwise.
I said it from the start that it's probably not going to happen with those graphics. Expect a variable framerate until confirmed otherwise.
Cornbread78
Member
As long as that kill blip remains, I'll be a happy camper!
Pound_lb003
Member
Thanks!
That hardly explains it on my screen.
The term itself refers to what looks like pixelation or uniform looking noise.
It's generally when a form of aliasing or filtering tries to 'soften' a look and ends up adding flecks that aren't soft. Off the top of my head a LOAD of the alpha textures in FFXIII were awful with this (hair especially) as a less power intesive way to make thing transparent. And GTA4's shadows and sometimes it's anti-aliasing solution had the same impact.
MastaKilla
Member
outrage over imperfect work in progress build incoming...
The game was fun, the controls were great, and I had a 14 kill streak, so that's a plus. Framerate was a little disappointing in all the ps4 titles that I tried, but we'll see how things go at launch.
One thing that bothered me is that it seemed like every tv at the Sony booth was calibrated incorrectly. It's like they've all got the sharpness cranked as high as it'll go, and it isn't a pretty look.
One thing that bothered me is that it seemed like every tv at the Sony booth was calibrated incorrectly. It's like they've all got the sharpness cranked as high as it'll go, and it isn't a pretty look.
what games did you try?
Lambda Pie
Banned
lock it at 30. nothing more jarring than an wildly variable framerate.
Killzone, Warframe, Drive Club, and Knack
do warframe suffer from the same framerate issue??
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Just out of curiosity, how did you like Knack?
Bald Cleft
Banned
That's not good. 2 months left Guerrilla you can do it!
We'll see. It's a target, not a foregone conclusion.
FairXchange
Member
You're right, things don't get better ever, they only get worse!
That was obvious sarcasm, but if you haven't experienced new hardware launches what typically happens is things improve rapidly from launch onward in terms of graphics performance.
Not only are we referring to a launch game, we're referring to a game that isn't finished yet and is being demoed in an early build. Let the game be released before doom and gloom sets it.
Warframe definitely hovered around 30 for the time being, but I was still able to jump in and kick ass with minimal time for adjustment.
As for Knack, it was more fun that I thought it would be. It wasn't really on my radar, but it was fun. I'll probably end up picking it up around launch.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Gladto hear Knack is turning out better than most expected.
except that aliasing is part of graphics and that fps situation will be vastly superior to PS3.
So if you care about those two, PS4 is no brainer.
RedAssedApe
Banned
maybe i have low standards but that doesn't look that bad to me. is it worse in motion?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Worst I've seen recently was the 360 version of Mafia 2. Everything looked like a wood grain carving. Unless the final version is that bad I'm not concerned.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I don't see anything which bothers me in this photo. Could be far worse.
I half expected this:
